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FDA approves cloned meat

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Pepsei

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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Why wouldn't it be safe? A clone is just like an identical twin

Then why are cloned animals susceptible to die at a younger age and have health problems the "parent" did not have?


correct, and the first correct argument against eating cloned meat (at this time). a perfect clone means the meat is the same.... however, we don't have perfect cloning technique yet.... so I wouldn't touch it until it is perfect.
 
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Well, I'm pretty sure that the shorter lifespan results from the shorter telomeres that result from the cloning process. Scientists don't know why the telomeres really vary in length (it can be shorter or even longer than the original cell), but I wouldn't use it to discount meat.

Cloning is an inherently inaccurate process. I doubt we can get to 100% perfection because of the biological limitations of cloning, but we are already damn close.

I for one, welcome our new genetically modified cow overlords.
 

Pepsei

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Well, I'm pretty sure that the shorter lifespan results from the shorter telomeres that result from the cloning process. Scientists don't know why the telomeres really vary in length (it can be shorter or even longer than the original cell), but I wouldn't use it to discount meat.

Cloning is an inherently inaccurate process. I doubt we can get to 100% perfection because of the biological limitations of cloning, but we are already damn close.

I for one, welcome our new genetically modified cow overlords.

i remember reading some sci-fi like this before... about attempting to extend your life using clones...but the life span of the clone becomes shorter and shorter. i guess art imitates life?

some effects of cloning are not apparent in the days, weeks or even years after birth. "It is very probable that, at least for some populations of clones, some unpredictable defects will appear in the long run,"

that part worries me the most.
 

oiprocs

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Why don't we clone athletes?

Imagine 5 Kobe's. We'd actually see MORE passing by the Lakers because he'd have no problem passing it to himself.

Or 5 LeBron's. It'd be like a pitching rotation; you play every 5th day because you know someone is pwning the opponent on the other 4 nights.
 

Juno

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Originally posted by: Oiprocs
Why don't we clone athletes?

Imagine 5 Kobe's. We'd actually see MORE passing by the Lakers because he'd have no problem passing it to himself.

Or 5 LeBron's. It'd be like a pitching rotation; you play every 5th day because you know someone is pwning the opponent on the other 4 nights.

then we would put an asterisk on every athlete.
 

her209

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The irony is that the meat that you eat now is so chock full of chemicals that its far from "natural".
 

Jeff7

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I'm still waiting for us to find cheap, abundant energy (fusion, in about 50 years), so that we can run large factory warehouses, where the muscles themselves are grown in a laboratory-like environment. No animals to feed, no excrement to deal with, no animal rights people (except the crazy extremists, no pleasing them)to complain, and hopefully, fewer or no parasites to worry about.


Originally posted by: Pepsei
i remember reading some sci-fi like this before... about attempting to extend your life using clones...but the life span of the clone becomes shorter and shorter. i guess art imitates life?

that part worries me the most.
Patience, maybe in 200-300 years, we'll be able to read out the contents of a human brain and stash them into an android. I'm sure we'll still have awfully familiar problems then, too.
"Your husband got into a hovercar accident? Did he make a backup of himself recently?"
"Well, he'd been meaning to, but just never got around to it."
"Ok, it looks then like your only option is a data recovery center, and I don't think insurance covers that."


Originally posted by: her209
The irony is that the meat that you eat now is so chock full of chemicals that its far from "natural".
Buy antibiotic-free meat instead. Some supermarkets have it. For a better bet, try a farmer's market, if you've got access to one. There you can buy meat from animals raised not only without antibiotics, but also without being caged up, or other crazy stuff, like cows that eat grass, not corn.
 

Eeezee

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How do you know that cloned animals aren't cost effective? Perhaps there is some cheap technique that we are unaware of that makes cloned animals cheaper and easier to breed/grow/slaughter.
 

SoundTheSurrender

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Last time I heard, they cloned a cow and the cloned one got really sick/disgusting. This sickens me, I might just go vegan just to protect myself.