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FDA approves cloned meat

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Nocturnal

Lifer
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On top of this, IIRC, the super markets will NOT have to display which meat has come from cloned animals. I may go completely vegan. This sucks as I love my steak.
 

gururu2

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i cant believe the FDA approved this. obviously, the basic components of nucleic acid, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates would not be foreign, however what worries me is the genetic content of said animals. we already know that such animals do not live out a natural lifespan, so far attributed to genomic anomalies which force the animals to succumb to diseases and other odd age-related maladies. now, what happens when viruses start infecting cloned animals? viruses are notorious for stealing genomic content from host organisms. viruses will bounce between normal and cloned animals. some viruses are even quite adept at crossing species boundaries. viruses work faster than human technology, and it scares the living daylights out of me thinking about transmissible diseases in cloned animals.
 

Mr Pickles

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Originally posted by: gururu2
i cant believe the FDA approved this. obviously, the basic components of nucleic acid, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates would not be foreign, however what worries me is the genetic content of said animals. we already know that such animals do not live out a natural lifespan, so far attributed to genomic anomalies which force the animals to succumb to diseases and other odd age-related maladies. now, what happens when viruses start infecting cloned animals? viruses are notorious for stealing genomic content from host organisms. viruses will bounce between normal and cloned animals. some viruses are even quite adept at crossing species boundaries. viruses work faster than human technology, and it scares the living daylights out of me thinking about transmissible diseases in cloned animals.

Finally, someone that posts here that knows the goods and bads of genetic cloning. If he just used paragraph breaks every once and a while he'd be taken seriously.
 

Slew Foot

Lifer
Sep 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: gururu2
i cant believe the FDA approved this. obviously, the basic components of nucleic acid, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates would not be foreign, however what worries me is the genetic content of said animals. we already know that such animals do not live out a natural lifespan, so far attributed to genomic anomalies which force the animals to succumb to diseases and other odd age-related maladies. now, what happens when viruses start infecting cloned animals? viruses are notorious for stealing genomic content from host organisms. viruses will bounce between normal and cloned animals. some viruses are even quite adept at crossing species boundaries. viruses work faster than human technology, and it scares the living daylights out of me thinking about transmissible diseases in cloned animals.

How is that different from viruses infecting non cloned animals?

 

lozina

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: gururu2
i cant believe the FDA approved this. obviously, the basic components of nucleic acid, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates would not be foreign, however what worries me is the genetic content of said animals. we already know that such animals do not live out a natural lifespan, so far attributed to genomic anomalies which force the animals to succumb to diseases and other odd age-related maladies. now, what happens when viruses start infecting cloned animals? viruses are notorious for stealing genomic content from host organisms. viruses will bounce between normal and cloned animals. some viruses are even quite adept at crossing species boundaries. viruses work faster than human technology, and it scares the living daylights out of me thinking about transmissible diseases in cloned animals.

How is that different from viruses infecting non cloned animals?

Because the genetic material of cloned animals are compromised.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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time to become a vagitarian. Will FDA require processors to label meat as "cloned" vs. "farm-raised"?
 

lozina

Lifer
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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
time to become a vagitarian. Will FDA require processors to label meat as "cloned" vs. "farm-raised"?

And give us the power of choice? Hell no. They didn't require the labeling of genetically modified foods either.
 

Xavier434

Lifer
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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Why wouldn't it be safe? A clone is just like an identical twin

Then why are cloned animals susceptible to die at a younger age and have health problems the "parent" did not have?

It's not perfected yet obviously. Give it time. You have to remember where we were with cloning 20 years ago. Think about what it will be like 20 years from now?
 

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: UNCjigga
time to become a vagitarian. Will FDA require processors to label meat as "cloned" vs. "farm-raised"?

I'm already on the VAGtastic Diet. Mmmmm. :D
 

Slew Foot

Lifer
Sep 22, 2005
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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: gururu2
i cant believe the FDA approved this. obviously, the basic components of nucleic acid, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates would not be foreign, however what worries me is the genetic content of said animals. we already know that such animals do not live out a natural lifespan, so far attributed to genomic anomalies which force the animals to succumb to diseases and other odd age-related maladies. now, what happens when viruses start infecting cloned animals? viruses are notorious for stealing genomic content from host organisms. viruses will bounce between normal and cloned animals. some viruses are even quite adept at crossing species boundaries. viruses work faster than human technology, and it scares the living daylights out of me thinking about transmissible diseases in cloned animals.

How is that different from viruses infecting non cloned animals?

Because the genetic material of cloned animals are compromised.

Genetic material of non-cloned cows is comprimised as well. It's called, "mutation".

 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Originally posted by: gururu2
i cant believe the FDA approved this. obviously, the basic components of nucleic acid, protein, lipids, and carbohydrates would not be foreign, however what worries me is the genetic content of said animals. we already know that such animals do not live out a natural lifespan, so far attributed to genomic anomalies which force the animals to succumb to diseases and other odd age-related maladies. now, what happens when viruses start infecting cloned animals? viruses are notorious for stealing genomic content from host organisms. viruses will bounce between normal and cloned animals. some viruses are even quite adept at crossing species boundaries. viruses work faster than human technology, and it scares the living daylights out of me thinking about transmissible diseases in cloned animals.

How is that different from viruses infecting non cloned animals?

Because the genetic material of cloned animals are compromised.

Genetic material of non-cloned cows is comprimised as well. It's called, "mutation".

LoL that's like a car company telling a guy who is complaining about his brand new car having worn out tires, shoddy brakes and blown gaskets by saying "well all cars have that it's claled wear & tear"

but anyway, we're not talking about 1 or two genes, up to 4% of genes in cloned animals are compromised
 

vi edit

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File me under the "skeptical" crowd. The much shorter life spans of cloned animals really throws up a red flag to me. Something just isn't right with them. I'll take my chances with a steak made the old fashioned way.
 

QueBert

Lifer
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Imagine a cow that produces nothing but Rib Eye steaks, bring on the genetic meats!