FC-PGA2 Tualatin Converter for S370 MB, $12.88

[DSummer]

Computer Geeks has these adapters back in stock. $12.88 each, get some before they gone!
Link

 

[John P]

What is the fastest processor I could run on an Abit BP6 with this?

 

[psteng19]

I wonder if this would work:
slot 1 -> fc-pga adapter, then fc-pga -> fc-pga2 adapter

 

[kef7]

n/m

 

[sunkim50]

Originally posted by: John P.
What is the fastest processor I could run on an Abit BP6 with this?

Well.. i think this adapter will probably run on motherboards that natively support Coppermines. Last time I check the BP6 required that stupid neoleap adapter, so I wouldn't be to sure that it worked for this mobo.

If it does.. then I think the fastest celeron is 1.3GHz? But they also have Pentium III with the Tualatin Core.

 

[toastyghost]

celeron goes up to 2ghz

 

[dman]

Celeron may go up to 2GHz, but, you need the PIII Based core, the P4 based celeron would not work on a S370 board with these adapters. I think the highest PIII celeron is 1.3GHz. You can try OC'ing them with >100MHz FSBs... YMMV.

 

[Lark888]

Stratton computers has the slot1-tualatin converter to $20 + shipping for those with slot-1 boards. I purchased one before Christmas and it worked perfect in a BX6-R2 with a 1.2 Celly chip I had sitting around. A relatively painless conversion if you don't want to swap out the MB. Otherwise, you might as well buy a cheap AMD motherboard and an XP 1600/1700/1800+ etc for a few dollars more.

Stratton link

Also Stratton shows a 1.4G Celly chip so you can go that high without O/Cing.

 

[debird]

Lark888,

Can you tell me more about your rig prior to installing the Slot T adapter? I've been looking to upgrade with that adapter.

I have a Creative Blaster Barebones kit that I got from TigerDirect a couple of years ago. It came with a slot 1 celery 366 and a Creative M003 motherboard based on the Intel i440BX chipset with an Award 4.51 bios. The mb and bios were made in 1999. I can find virtually no support(free) online for the mb and am pretty sure I will need the bios flashed. Creative said they only licensed a company to use their name in marketing the kit. I emailed Award and they evidently referred me to esupport.com who says they can upgrade the bios for $40 to $60.

I emailed tech support of the Slot T adapter for help and they said that even before the bios, I need to make sure the mb can support the 1.5v required by Tulatin as the mb probably is set for 3v.

As you said, it can get pretty involved to the point where you may as well just get a new board and cpu however, I read it can be very daunting to save the data on the hard drive when changing the motherboard.

I've been looking to upgrade to Cel 1.0 to 1.4 for under $100 without going through the hassles with the OS and hard drive?

 

[simulacra]

there is a BIOS update dated 02/02/2001 here [it is also patched so u can use a HDD up to 128MB (a limitation in the original BIOS)]

thou search http://www.wimsbios.com/phpBB2/ with your BIOS ID for more info

Originally posted by: debird
Lark888,
I have a Creative Blaster Barebones kit that I got from TigerDirect a couple of years ago. It came with a slot 1 celery 366 and a Creative M003 motherboard based on the Intel i440BX chipset with an Award 4.51 bios. The mb and bios were made in 1999. I can find virtually no support(free) online for the mb and am pretty sure I will need the bios flashed.

 

[debird]

Originally posted by: simulacra
there is a BIOS update dated 02/02/2001 here [it is also patched so u can use a HDD up to 128MB (a limitation in the original BIOS)]

thou search http://www.wimsbios.com/phpBB2/ with your BIOS ID for more info

Originally posted by: debird
Lark888,
I have a Creative Blaster Barebones kit that I got from TigerDirect a couple of years ago. It came with a slot 1 celery 366 and a Creative M003 motherboard based on the Intel i440BX chipset with an Award 4.51 bios. The mb and bios were made in 1999. I can find virtually no support(free) online for the mb and am pretty sure I will need the bios flashed.

Simulacra,

Thank you very, very much. I hope I will be able to download and flash my bios. I have never flashed a bios before so I hope it goes well.

I'll let you know how it goes. Might take me a few days to do it.

Thanks again for your help.

 

[RobCur]

Avoid these thing like the plaque, i bought 3 and none of it worked! obviously it was returned for incompatible/defective reason. The exact same ones I bought, said the exact same thing in their description from package2you that would work on biostar m6vcf, after fooling around with it enough time, my motherboard literally fried and it was much hassle. luckily, i bought 3 new motherboard that is for fcpga2 biostar m6vlr, it worked wonderfully, and I can overclock by 10 percent, no prob. Only slightly weaker then duron, runs alot cooler and hell it wasn't a bad buy at all. I needed a new motherobard anyway, heh.

 

[Lark888]

RobCur - I assume you are talking about the S370 converters as the Slot-T one has been used without any problems in many different MBs. In fact, many people do the wire mod on a standard Slot-1/T converter to handle the Tualatin core. I figured it was worth the extra few bucks to get a Slot-T rather then fooling around with my other Slot-1 converters.

 

[RU482]

I just ordered a Slot T adapter for my good ole P4V3X mobo. Thinking of getting a Celeron 1.1a or something like it. Should be an interesting experiment. Anyone know if there is any bios support for this CPU? Might have to call an old friend who writes proprietary bios's on this one

Another thing...Stratton has a pretty nice website. Sure it's Yahoo store formatted, but I like it

 

[simulacra]

found this deal also @ http://www.evertek.com @ $13 [$0.12 more than computer geeks]

 

[simulacra]

just remember to download AWDFLASH from here

and in case u need it: how to flash bios

Originally posted by: debird
Simulacra,

Thank you very, very much. I hope I will be able to download and flash my bios. I have never flashed a bios before so I hope it goes well.

I'll let you know how it goes. Might take me a few days to do it.

Thanks again for your help.

 

[Cybordolphin]

Do a little research first....

For instance if you have a BH6 motherboard.... the mosfets can blow. You need to make sure you have the beefier mosfets on this board. Not sure about the other boards.

 

[tbrooks40]

whats up fellas, i saw this and was hoping it would help me do a project i've been wanting to do for some time now... hey whats up Redly. hopefully one of you guys can help me with this as you all seem to have a good understanding of the conversions and cpu models available.

i have this chipset and cpu...

[ WCPUID Version 3.0 Beta1 (c) 1996-2001 By H.Oda! ]

Processor #1 : Intel Pentium II / 728D4495
Platform : Slot 1 (SC242 Connector)
Vendor String : GenuineIntel
CPU Type : Original OEM Processor (0)
Family : 6 (-)
Model : 5 (-)
Stepping ID : 1 (-)
Brand : ----
APIC : ----
Name String : ----

Internal Clock : 349.17 MHz
System Bus : 99.76 MHz
System Clock : 99.76 MHz
Multiplier : 3.5

L1 I-Cache : 16K Byte
L1 D-Cache : 16K Byte
L1 T-Cache : ----
L1 Cache : ----
L2 Cache : 512K Byte
L2 Speed : 174.58 MHz (Half)

MMX Unit : Supported
SSE Unit : Not Supported
SSE2 Unit : Not Supported
MMX2 Unit : Not Supported
3DNow! Unit : Not Supported
3DNow!+ Unit : Not Supported

Host Bridge : 8086:7190.02 [Intel 440BX/ZX]
IDE Controller : 8086:7111.01 [Intel 82371AB (PIIX4)]
VGA Device : 10DE:002C.15 [NVIDIA Vanta/Vanta LT]
Memory Size : 128M Byte
Memory Clock : ----

OS Version : Windows 98 Version 4.10.1998
-------------- : -----------------------------------
StdFunc 0 : 00000002 756E6547 6C65746E 49656E69
StdFunc 1 : 00000651 00000000 00000000 0183F9FF
StdFunc 2 : 03020101 00000000 00000000 0C040843
00000017h : 1000A063 24C1A0E1 00000000 00000000
0000001Bh : 00000000 FEE00100 00000000 00000000
0000002Ah : 00000000 C5480000 00000000 00000000
00000119h : 00000000 00000003 00000000 00000000
0000011Eh : 00000000 0134452B 00000000 00000000

##--- Date 02/08/2003, Time 06:48:04

...basically i am wanting to upgrade the processor on the mobo. i know it will accept teh p3 up to like 1ghz (i think - 550 for sure) but, i'm not sure what type of p3 i need and whether or not i would need an adapter like the one being cover here. if anyone could help i would really appreciate it. thanx a bunch in advance. -tb

tb40nd@chartermi.net

 

[RU482]

OT: A while back, I tried putting a P3 500 in an old P2 233 dell machine we had at work. It defaulted it back to 330Mhz. Not sure why...are P2's 66Mhz fsb?
I don't know if you'll run into a similar problem tbrooks40, just a thought

 

[Norman Smiley]

Originally posted by: redly1
OT: A while back, I tried putting a P3 500 in an old P2 233 dell machine we had at work. It defaulted it back to 330Mhz. Not sure why...are P2's 66Mhz fsb?
I don't know if you'll run into a similar problem tbrooks40, just a thought

It's the different bus speeds. The p2 500 is 100Mhz bus * 5. The old (probably LX) motherboard was either set or limited to a 66Mhz Bus, so you get 66Mhz * 5.

Hope this helps.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: redly1
I just ordered a Slot T adapter for my good ole P4V3X mobo. Thinking of getting a Celeron 1.1a or something like it. Should be an interesting experiment. Anyone know if there is any bios support for this CPU? Might have to call an old friend who writes proprietary bios's on this one

Another thing...Stratton has a pretty nice website. Sure it's Yahoo store formatted, but I like it

2 1.1a @ 1.5ghz here. 1005 bios just fine


hell it even works on an old abit pos that has built in sound, i forget the name. but at boot it says something like 3x230mhz = 690mhz hahaha. thats some insane bus speed, but really its 133mhz bus. it might report it wrong, but its clocked at 1.5ghz in win XP. both the abit and asus report it as an ultra fast p2 funny stuff.

stick with 1.1a, best bang for buck, best almost garranteed chance of oc.

 

[aggie113]

In answer to someon's question the top speed for these is 1.4Ghz. You shouldn't expect more than a 10% overclock and even then you would be extremely lucky. Intel was going to release faster versions of this cpu but they found out that it was actually performing better than the current p4's (at the time) so they stoped at 1.4. I run a pair of 1.26's (512K cache) and they are great. They run very cool and make a great gaming/video encoding system with my hacked ati 9500.

 

[oldfart]

In answer to someon's question the top speed for these is 1.4Ghz. You shouldn't expect more than a 10% overclock and even then you would be extremely lucky.

They will do better than that. I have a C1.4 in a Slot-T @ 112 FSB (1.57 GHz). The BH6 mobo it is in is limited to 112 FSB max. I did this overclock with an UNDERVOLT to 1.35 Vcore (1.5 is normal). This chip in a more capable mobo with a little extra Vcore would probably do 1.7 GHz.

 

[0roo0roo]

depends on which you want. higher fsb, or higher clock. for apollo pro 133 boards safer to get 1.1a so u get full 133mhz bus overclock. with bx better to go with higher original clock speed since your unlikely to hit 133bus.

 

[Sesopedalian]

I have my 1.1 running at 145 MHz x 11 = 1595 @ 1.525 V. Last time I looked at Overclockers.com the 1.1 ruled. Haven't even tried it higher, because this Abit ST-6R may be haunted by the ghost of Celeron 300a past. Original board bios, identifies as P3. For $50 shipped, I will take it.