FBI investigating if Trump is a Russian agent

[Viper1j]

And now the generals are gone....

"General Pushkin said he will be here as soon as he can. Traffic in Moscow horrible." -- Donald Trump

 

[fskimospy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ce9fc587c4a7

There is a possibility that this type of communication exists, Trump's own competencies be damned.

I'm going to have to note that from the article it appears the NSA or another intelligence agency intercepted the communications about setting up a back channel, haha.

While they would be foolish to think communications even from the Russian embassy were secure, such a thing would be possible, yes. That sort of communication is a far, far cry from Trump evading the NSA on his personal cell phone.

 

[PJFrylar]

I'm going to have to note that from the article it appears the NSA or another intelligence agency intercepted the communications about setting up a back channel, haha.

While they would be foolish to think communications even from the Russian embassy were secure, such a thing would be possible, yes. That sort of communication is a far, far cry from Trump evading the NSA on his personal cell phone.

That's a fair point. They were monitoring Kislyak though.

Neither the meeting nor the communications of Americans involved were under U.S. surveillance, officials said.

And also in fairness

Russia at times feeds false information into communication streams it suspects are monitored as a way of sowing misinformation and confusion among U.S. analysts. But officials said that it’s unclear what Kislyak would have had to gain by falsely characterizing his contacts with Kushner to Moscow, particularly at a time when the Kremlin still saw the prospect of dramatically improved relations with Trump.

I'm just saying that it would be possible with someone of a better understanding of technology, though a remote possibility because no one knows more about technology than Trump - just ask him, could have set something like this up.

 

[mikeymikec]

I sincerely, sincerely doubt that Trump could communicate with the Kremlin using his private cell phone in a way the NSA could not detect.

I agree with 'could not', but how about 'would not'? I'd bet that the rules for any government surveillance entity stipulate that for pretty much any politician to have their private stuff rifled through requires some higher-up authorisation, and I doubt that any high-ranking member of staff is going to authorise rifling through Trump's private communications without a paper trail a mile long.

 

[zinfamous]

Did you see Peter Strzok's anti-Trump texts? Corrupt.

There is nothing to be revealed in Strosk's texts regarding bias or corruption. Nothing whatsoever. If you ever gave a dick about consistent honesty, you would know this to be true. But you don't, because you are a dishonest partisan hack of a prick.

The reality is that LEOs tend to have very low opinions of people that they know to be engaged in criminal--and especially treasonous--behavior. The fact is, Strosk's texts revealed that the FBI knows far, far, far more about the long history of criminality in the Trump empire--because that Orange shit constantly comes up when investigating their Russian targets.

Think about it this way, you treasonous America-hating asshole: You're an FBI investigator that specializes in international organized crime. You have years, decades of intel regarding several criminal groups operating outside and inside the US. One of their known base of operations happens to be the NY tower where, the owner of said tower, who has been popping up in your recording again and again and again while investigating known criminals, suddenly wants to be president.

Prick: you are now in a position to make sure a known criminal money launderer--with the potential to engage in multiple acts of treason due to his known and obvious potential for blackmail--doesn't get the reigns to continue, and worsen, the exact same type of crimes that he is already well known for. These are all the actual facts.

Start from the point of facts, asshole, then try to bullshit your way out of it. Or just shut the fuck and stop posting, because your callous indifference to truth, honesty, and adult discussion is just goddamn tiring. You're just as much a threat to this country as Trump is, and we'd be better off if your ass was back in Russia where it belongs, loser.

 

[cytg111]

There is nothing to be revealed in Strosk's texts regarding bias or corruption. Nothing whatsoever. If you ever gave a dick about consistent honesty, you would know this to be true. But you don't, because you are a dishonest partisan hack of a prick.

The reality is that LEOs tend to have very low opinions of people that they know to be engaged in criminal--and especially treasonous--behavior. The fact is, Strosk's texts revealed that the FBI knows far, far, far more about the long history of criminality in the Trump empire--because that Orange shit constantly comes up when investigating their Russian targets.

Think about it this way, you treasonous America-hating asshole: You're an FBI investigator that specializes in international organized crime. You have years, decades of intel regarding several criminal groups operating outside and inside the US. One of their known base of operations happens to be the NY tower where, the owner of said tower, who has been popping up in your recording again and again and again while investigating known criminals, suddenly wants to be president.

Prick: you are now in a position to make sure a known criminal money launderer--with the potential to engage in multiple acts of treason due to his known and obvious potential for blackmail--doesn't get the reigns to continue, and worsen, the exact same type of crimes that he is already well known for. These are all the actual facts.

Start from the point of facts, asshole, then try to bullshit your way out of it. Or just shut the fuck and stop posting, because your callous indifference to truth, honesty, and adult discussion is just goddamn tiring. You're just as much a threat to this country as Trump is, and we'd be better off if your ass was back in Russia where it belongs, loser.

Mmmm.. I think Slow is on vacation again, it may be a while until you get an honest response to that one...

 

[zinfamous]

Mmmm.. I think Slow is on vacation again, it may be a while until you get an honest response to that one...

compared to....all the other times that anyone has gotten an honest response from Slow?

 

[mikeymikec]

compared to....all the other times that anyone has gotten an honest response from Slow?

There was that time that he said he wanted to catapult people from that 'migrant caravan' back across the border, I suspect he was being pretty honest then.

 

[Indus]

At an absolute minimum, Trump is a Russian ASSET!

And ofcourse the Republican Party and Trump voters are willing co-consipirators.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Been watching Barr and I'm not a fan but so far he seems to not be as hideous as Trump's abominations. His answers, for the most part, seem reasonable but I don't trust anything Trump touches on principle derived from observation. He seems to be willing to keep hands off of Mueller unless the latter exceeds the existing mandate by a fair bit. True? I have no idea.

 

[Jhhnn]

Been watching Barr and I'm not a fan but so far he seems to not be as hideous as Trump's abominations. His answers, for the most part, seem reasonable but I don't trust anything Trump touches on principle derived from observation. He seems to be willing to keep hands off of Mueller unless the latter exceeds the existing mandate by a fair bit. True? I have no idea.

The most relevant question is "What would you do if the President told you to fire the Special Counsel?"

Are we dealing with a man like Richardson & Ruckelshaus, or one like Bork?

 

[cytg111]

compared to....all the other times that anyone has gotten an honest response from Slow?

Hehehe... Caught one .

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The most relevant question is "What would you do if the President told you to fire the Special Counsel?"

Are we dealing with a man like Richardson & Ruckelshaus, or one like Bork?

His answer was no unless there was some grave abuse or misconduct as defined by the rules, not Trump.
Pardoning a witness in exchange for silence is a crime.

The current investigations are proper and professional and has no intention of interfering either for Congress or Trump.




He did not promise to let Mueller do anything he wanted because he cannot predict what that might be so he refuses to surrender all control and oversight in advance.



He won't make Mueller's report public and I find myself agreeing with him. Releasing the report would mean turning the report over to anyone to be indicted as well as sources and other confidential information.

Instead, he pledged to make all material available that prosecutorial standards and regulations permit.



That's all for now.

 

[Viper1j]

Been watching Barr and I'm not a fan but so far he seems to not be as hideous as Trump's abominations. His answers, for the most part, seem reasonable but I don't trust anything Trump touches on principle derived from observation. He seems to be willing to keep hands off of Mueller unless the latter exceeds the existing mandate by a fair bit. True? I have no idea.

I know Donny is watching as well. And he's not a happy camper.

50 bucks says he pulls Barr's nomination in the next 48 hours.

Barr won't give him a "loyalty oath" either.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I know Donny is watching as well. And he's not a happy camper.

50 bucks says he pulls Barr's nomination in the next 48 hours.

Barr won't give him a "loyalty oath" either.

In spite of my distrustful nature I find myself seeing this guy as a possibility who's not screwed up. Either my despico-meter is off, or this guy is the only pleasant surprise. I won't make a final judgement yet though.

 

[alien42]

In spite of my distrustful nature I find myself seeing this guy as a possibility who's not screwed up. Either my despico-meter is off, or this guy is the only pleasant surprise. I won't make a final judgement yet though.

did you know it was Barr who provided HW Bush with the list of Iran Contra peeps to be and who were pardoned?

 

[Jhhnn]

His answer was no unless there was some grave abuse or misconduct as defined by the rules, not Trump.
Pardoning a witness in exchange for silence is a crime.

The current investigations are proper and professional and has no intention of interfering either for Congress or Trump.




He did not promise to let Mueller do anything he wanted because he cannot predict what that might be so he refuses to surrender all control and oversight in advance.



He won't make Mueller's report public and I find myself agreeing with him. Releasing the report would mean turning the report over to anyone to be indicted as well as sources and other confidential information.

Instead, he pledged to make all material available that prosecutorial standards and regulations permit.



That's all for now.

I wonder if he'll allow Rudy to "correct" the report... probably not.

 

[Jhhnn]

did you know it was Barr who provided HW Bush with the list of Iran Contra peeps to be and who were pardoned?

I don't have a problem with that. When the boss says "bring me a list" you bring him a list.

 

[dank69]

I don't have a problem with that. When the boss says "bring me a list" you bring him a list.

I have a bad feeling about giving any power to anyone with ties to the Bush/Cheney Admin.

 

[Viper1j]

I have a bad feeling about giving any power to anyone with ties to the Bush/Cheney Admin.

That wasn't Bush/Cheney You're thinking Baby Bush (You may be too young to remember..) That was Bush/Quayle, Daddy Bush

He had the wife that was so sloshed, she was hospitalized for drinking rubbing alcohol.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

did you know it was Barr who provided HW Bush with the list of Iran Contra peeps to be and who were pardoned?

Yep and not a fan.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I wonder if he'll allow Rudy to "correct" the report... probably not.

He was asked that specific question, if Trump or someone could edit or rewrite the report and there was a "Nope". I don't think the Reps liked him all that much. Again this from hours ago so I don't know what has happened since then.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

In spite of my distrustful nature I find myself seeing this guy as a possibility who's not screwed up. Either my despico-meter is off, or this guy is the only pleasant surprise. I won't make a final judgement yet though.

I had exactly the same thought. I surmise that Trump the Gambler doesn't make decisions with any sort of analysis. It's all about his whim. Doubt that anyone here would disagree, and many have observed the same.

Under that scenario, there's a 50-50 chance he could make a proper decision, provided that some other bias doesn't force him in the wrong direction. Such would certainly occur in regards to an issue that had a previous Obama decision-stamp on it: he'd reverse a good decision regardless. That's the reason he gutted State Department, and the reason he expelled all the US Attorneys vulnerable to it.

But in the matter of Barr, I cannot be sure what factors made him put Barr in as a nomination. He knew he'd have to get Senate approval, and someone may have suggested Barr. So maybe the entire country got lucky, just for that.

 

[zinfamous]

I had exactly the same thought. I surmise that Trump the Gambler doesn't make decisions with any sort of analysis. It's all about his whim. Doubt that anyone here would disagree, and many have observed the same.

Under that scenario, there's a 50-50 chance he could make a proper decision, provided that some other bias doesn't force him in the wrong direction. Such would certainly occur in regards to an issue that had a previous Obama decision-stamp on it: he'd reverse a good decision regardless. That's the reason he gutted State Department, and the reason he expelled all the US Attorneys vulnerable to it.

But in the matter of Barr, I cannot be sure what factors made him put Barr in as a nomination. He knew he'd have to get Senate approval, and someone may have suggested Barr. So maybe the entire country got lucky, just for that.

He actually thought it was Rosanne's dad, and because she is a big Trump nutter on Twitter, and even took one for the cause, he thought appointing her dad would be the right thing to do, on top of sticking it to the libs.

I'm not even joking.

 

[hal2kilo]

That wasn't Bush/Cheney You're thinking Baby Bush (You may be too young to remember..) That was Bush/Quayle, Daddy Bush

He had the wife that was so sloshed, she was hospitalized for drinking rubbing alcohol.

Are you thinking of Dukakis?