pcgeek11
Lifer
- Jun 12, 2005
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Bull Shit. Impeach him because he didn't fire someone for lying. Right.
Then if that is true they should impeach him today.
Bull Shit. Impeach him because he didn't fire someone for lying. Right.
Then if that is true they should impeach him today.
It’s deadly serious. You’re just doing what we all thought you would.
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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I can't think of anything in US history to compare this to. All Americans should be shocked out of their minds.
That’s my point! In your world he has allowed the deputy AG and the FBI director to secretly and duplicitously use US counterintelligence capabilities to undermine senior elected officials without their knowledge.
This would be one of the largest scandals in US history and Trump did nothing. If that’s not impeachment worthy then nothing is.
There is nothing. Pretend Trump was squeaky clean up until yesterday. That US intelligence was investigating him for potentially acting as the agent of a hostile foreign power is independently the largest scandal in US history.
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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This is the deal. They are denying nothing really, especially with that publicly remark. They're just attacking the messengers. Got to believe the WH is going into super bunker mode, while keeping the shutdown story blazed in front of everyone's eyes. The only thing Trump is a master of is distraction. He fails at dealmaking.
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PJFrylar
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Lots of seedy people have been indicted over shit that has nothing to do with Russia. You know the subject of this thread.
I will wait as I have been for the Mueller Investigation to complete. You are one of the people ready to hang anyone before the investigation is finished.
Oh, I guess I should state that they did indict some Russians...
WTF has this have to do with a Black Man for gods sake. Are you just required to throw in the race card because you have nothing else besides insults and BS?
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/proof-of-collusion-trump-campaign-and-russia.2559752/
You seem to have missed that thread. It's in official court documents that Manafort was working with Russians while chairman of Trump's campaign. You can stop your "I'm waiting for the Mueller report" routine - you're not fooling a single person with that weak shit.
soundforbjt
Lifer
- Feb 15, 2002
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Thank God Fox News talking heads are demanding the proper action be taken...investigation of the FBI.
/s
/s
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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Just talking about the wall and shutdown. Nothing else exists in that world.
MSBNC has gone literally non-stop on this story.
Viper1j
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- Jul 31, 2018
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I knew he was a weasel, so it doesn't surprise me that he could be a Russian mole as well.
Really? How about this..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen
Robert Philip Hanssen (born April 18, 1944) is a former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent who spied for Soviet and Russian intelligence services against the United States from 1979 to 2001. His espionage was described by the Department of Justice as "possibly the worst intelligence disaster in U.S. history."[2] He is currently serving 15 consecutive life sentences at ADX Florence, a federal supermax prison near Florence, Colorado.
Hanssen was born in Chicago. His father, a police officer, was emotionally abusive to him during his childhood. In 1968 Hanssen married his wife Bonnie, a strict Roman Catholic. He converted to Catholicism and became heavily involved in the conservative Catholic organization Opus Dei. He hovered between varying academic pursuits and jobs before joining the FBI in 1976. Three years after joining, Hanssen approached the Soviet GRU to offer his services, launching his first espionage cycle which lasted until 1981. Hanssen restarted his espionage activities in 1985 and continued until 1991 when he broke off communications during the collapse of the Soviet Union, fearing he would be exposed. He restored communications the next year and continued until his arrest. Throughout his spying, Hanssen remained anonymous to the Russians.
Hanssen sold thousands of classified documents to the KGB which detailed U.S. strategies in the event of nuclear war, developments in military weapons technologies, and aspects of the U.S. counterintelligence program.[3] He was spying at the same time as Aldrich Ames in the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Both Ames and Hanssen compromised the names of KGB agents working secretly for the United States, some of whom were executed for their betrayal. Hanssen also revealed a multimillion dollar eavesdropping tunnel built by the FBI under the Soviet Embassy in Washington. After Ames' arrest in 1994, some of these intelligence breaches still remained unsolved. The FBI paid $7 million to a KGB agent to obtain a file on an anonymous mole, whom the FBI later identified as Hanssen through fingerprint and voice analysis.
Hanssen was arrested on February 18, 2001, at Foxstone Park[4] near his home in Vienna, Virginia after leaving a package of classified materials at a dead drop site. He was charged with selling U.S. intelligence documents to the Soviet Union and subsequently Russia for more than US$1.4 million in cash and diamonds over a 22-year period.[5] To avoid the death penalty, he pleaded guilty to 14 counts of espionage and one of conspiracy to commit espionage.[6][7] He was sentenced to 15 life terms without the possibility of parole.
How much time do you think Donny will get?
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mikeymikec
Lifer
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No-one is asking you to. Straw-man fallacies are just lazy, and it was a poor attempt of deflection.
shortylickens
No Lifer
- Jul 15, 2003
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Viper1j
Diamond Member
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Ever see Rain Man?
You don't have to be intelligent to be smart about some things.
Insult? I only stated the facts. If you don’t want to be characterized as a petulant man baby change your avatar here and stop acting like one.
BonzaiDuck
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2004
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To me, it almost seems to be "non-news." My well-worn hot-air assertion has always been that "I suspected this all along after the two near-identical school-terror hoaxes of the early 2016 campaign beginning with fall, 2015." But I initially thought that the hoaxes were coming directly from either a Trumpie or the Trump campaign. Those were inferences about a psy-war campaign, but not so much about Trump's own culpability as a Russian asset.
I modified my inference when FBI announced the originating IP address was "eastern Germany." I'm sure that others thought that "real mid-east terrorists" were behind the hoaxes, as if real mid-east terrorists would stop short of blowing up the school-kids.
There are two aspects to all of this. There is a scientific approach to connecting dots and making inferences. And to do this, it also helps to gather all the possibilities -- a "sieve of possibilities" -- as a field in which to make inferences from what is actually known fact. The legal approach also tries to cherry-pick some hole in the sieve as a "possible explanation" as if to use "not guilty" as a standard of innocence.
Impeachment is a political process in which the facts can be aired. The "defense" can try as they may to argue that the facts "don't stick." And there's always the chance of a conclusion that removal from office is "unwarranted." But then, what risk to national security remains after declaring Trump "not guilty?"
Oh -- I know! "It's the deep state! They're all Democrats! They're out to get our president! The entire media and the Democrats want to undermine our way of life!"
Um-HUMMMM! How to stop worrying, and love the Russians. Certainly, the absence of some Cohen-equivalent who can report on this vast Left-wing conspiracy is of no consequence. The whole world is "out to get us!"
It doesn't amaze me so much that a lot of people never read Richard Condon's "Manchurian Candidate." Yes -- a work of fiction. It bothers me more that nobody remembers the movie version. But the fiction represents a hole in the sieve of possibilities for things that can happen in reality.
It's sad that some will dismiss even the possibility of Trump being a real-world exhibition of what had been a fiction -- because . . . "He's MY president! It can't be possible!"
I modified my inference when FBI announced the originating IP address was "eastern Germany." I'm sure that others thought that "real mid-east terrorists" were behind the hoaxes, as if real mid-east terrorists would stop short of blowing up the school-kids.
There are two aspects to all of this. There is a scientific approach to connecting dots and making inferences. And to do this, it also helps to gather all the possibilities -- a "sieve of possibilities" -- as a field in which to make inferences from what is actually known fact. The legal approach also tries to cherry-pick some hole in the sieve as a "possible explanation" as if to use "not guilty" as a standard of innocence.
Impeachment is a political process in which the facts can be aired. The "defense" can try as they may to argue that the facts "don't stick." And there's always the chance of a conclusion that removal from office is "unwarranted." But then, what risk to national security remains after declaring Trump "not guilty?"
Oh -- I know! "It's the deep state! They're all Democrats! They're out to get our president! The entire media and the Democrats want to undermine our way of life!"
Um-HUMMMM! How to stop worrying, and love the Russians. Certainly, the absence of some Cohen-equivalent who can report on this vast Left-wing conspiracy is of no consequence. The whole world is "out to get us!"
It doesn't amaze me so much that a lot of people never read Richard Condon's "Manchurian Candidate." Yes -- a work of fiction. It bothers me more that nobody remembers the movie version. But the fiction represents a hole in the sieve of possibilities for things that can happen in reality.
It's sad that some will dismiss even the possibility of Trump being a real-world exhibition of what had been a fiction -- because . . . "He's MY president! It can't be possible!"
hal2kilo
Lifer
- Feb 24, 2009
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It goes beyond that entirely. Donald Trump is the greatest confidence artist who ever lived. Witness where he is today.
How it works-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick
Trump is the greatest of them all-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_con_artists
BonzaiDuck
Lifer
- Jun 30, 2004
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I love your question! It's not Ellie Iselin (Angela Lansbury). Not Angela . . . . . how about . . . . Melania? Almost a rhyme, there.
Can't you imagine? "Donald? Why don't you play a little solitaire?"
The fact that you want to wait for Mueller tells me that you actually do know he is guilty and are putting off the inevitable.
I think you may find that even after the investigation is complete and says Trump is guilty, you will find something to be wrong with it.
For me Trump is the greatest disaster that has ever befallen our country in a political sense and the damage he has done to our institutions and respect for law and order is incalculable. He has, for example, made it impossible for you to even think rationally. There is little hope of a future for a country trained to behave like an army of brain dead zombies.
So all of this has already happened. Trump is a fait accompli. We have been deeply fucked. There is no purpose or need to fluff. The country has been undone by the conservative brain defect, the inability to detach ego from ideology. There isn't a more profound refutation of the logical fallacies you are willing to engage in than those presented here in this thread, and in particular by fskimospy and all to no avail. This is the very reason why Trump has not been impeached and convicted. You were so deeply shamed as children that you will never open those wounds again and because of that the rest of us have gone down with you. Your shame is so great that you would rather die than feel it again. And you destroy the rest of us in the process. Know that it couldn't have been otherwise and that you have been forgiven. The situation is hopeless but not serious. Hope you can see this one day.
You see skill, but I see a deep and profound level of suffering that creates an equivalent need to believe.
Capitalism created advertising, the manipulation and instilling , of need and the concomitant state of constant dissatisfaction with what we have. What parts us from our money is the delusion of entitlement. I deserve to have what my ego desires.
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
- Feb 4, 2009
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I don’t know how accurate the report is but I do know there will be more FBI retirements & firings in the coming weeks.
Fanatical Meat
Lifer
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HomerJS
Lifer
- Feb 6, 2002
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You seem to forget the back channel Jared Kushner tried to set up to Russia. Hmm back channel to set up secret communications.
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