FBI investigating if Trump is a Russian agent

[HomerJS]

From the article:

" It is unclear whether Mr. Mueller is still pursuing the counterintelligence matter, and some former law enforcement officials outside the investigation have questioned whether agents overstepped in opening it. "

" No evidence has emerged publicly that Mr. Trump was secretly in contact with or took direction from Russian government officials. An F.B.I. spokeswoman and a spokesman for the special counsel’s office both declined to comment. "


I didn't see anything new or earth shattering in the article at all.

You don't find anything earth shattering that Trump's own actions caused an FBI investigation into him possibly being a Russian agent??

Do you care that little about the country?

 

[HomerJS]

This is OLD News and nothing new at all.

I'll wait for Mueller's final report rather than overreact to sensational headlines by an obviously biased media channel.

I think that there were many at the FBI that were obviously biased in the extreme and would do nearly anything to throw Trump out of office Comey, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. They have since been fired thank god.

I think if they had anything that remotely indicated Trump was acting along with Russia there would have been some action to remove him from office by now.

Is your definition of bias any news outlet that doesn't kiss Trump's ass? I guess that makes Fox your only credible news outlet.

 

[HomerJS]

Tabloid stuff to rile up sheep.

Also from the story:

"No evidence has emerged publicly that Mr. Trump was secretly in contact with or took direction from Russian government officials. An F.B.I. spokeswoman and a spokesman for the special counsel’s office both declined to comment."

Is this investigation closed? It has been years and nothing has come of it.

Not as long as Benghazi. Keep it in your pants, you'll have plenty of time to discredit Mueller's report when it comes out

 

[zinfamous]

Lots of seedy people have been indicted over shit that has nothing to do with Russia. You know the subject of this thread.

I will wait as I have been for the Mueller Investigation to complete. You are one of the people ready to hang anyone before the investigation is finished.

Oh, I guess I should state that they did indict some Russians...

WTF has this have to do with a Black Man for gods sake. Are you just required to throw in the race card because you have nothing else besides insults and BS?

I like that you include Manafort as someone that "has nothing to do with Russia." ...lol--do you even read? What do you actually know about Manafort and his very-well-known history and what he has been indicted for? Nothing to do with Russia? lol--do you believe the things that you are typing? Are you really these blithely unconcerned about how boldly stupid you sound?

As for referring to your thorough, recorded history of strongly condemning Obama for every single thing he did--what else can it be? I ask you this. It is without a single iota of dispute that every single thing that you "simply don't care Trump is doing," are exactly the same things that you stupidly and blindly claimed Obama of doing--you know, like they were crimes. Like he was an evil emperor. So, I ask you: what else could it be? You hated Obama because you invented crimes that he never committed, yet simply don't care that Trump is factually committing such crimes--and far, far, far worse crimes. You simply don't care.

What else can it be? Why such a proud hypocrite?

 

[sportage]

So who's to say Donald Trump IS NOT NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN an active Soviet agent?
And I still believe that 2016 presidential election was in fact rigged and tamper with far beyond what officials detected. FAR BEYOND!!!!
In fact, one has to wonder if there were indeed clear evidence that Donald Trump won by the Soviet ability to access our system and change the figures thus changing the outcome?
We need to ask, if the FBI and CIA indeed had hard evidence of election corruption from the Soviets that flipped the outcome.... would we ever know? Would anyone tell us?
Would the government dare tell the people, especially after the fact, that our election system was compromised electronically and Donald Trump DID NOT actually win?
Would our government admitting that a foreign country could and indeed did control the outcome of an American election possibly had caused wide spread panic in America?
To create massive protest and civil unrest across our land?
Or... would the powers that be decide instead it would be better to say nothing at all?
Not to risk a nationwide panic by the American people?
Think about that.
What would THAT mean for our sovereignty and the trust in our institutions?
How would the American people react? And would our government risk finding out?

When you rewatch that election night coverage and every poll promising that Trump would lose and Hillary would definitely win, and also take note of how weird those election results came in with states that Trump won but was never expected to win, well... something about that seems very odd.
Hillary would be up in the count, then magically and mysteriously just enough votes popped up to give Trump the advantage. Then more votes came in supporting of Hillary and again only minutes later another chunk of votes mysteriously popped up to put Trump ahead.
And this oddity happened over and over, state by state where Trump won but was never expected to win.
Quite odd to say the least.

Yeah I know, I know.... that a lot of people just could not stomach Hillary. But still, enough to toss the election to Donald Trump? That pussy grabber? That con artist and wife cheater? Seriously, were there THAT MANY Donald Trump voters out there?
And with none of them having turned up in that pre-election polling?
Then afterwards, we discover Trump and his people had secret meetings with Soviet officials, and proof emerges of Soviet interference.
Is it so hard to believe or imagine that the Soviets WERE SUCCESSFUL in determining the outcome of the 2016 election?
And... is it so hard to believe that we had and still have a rats nest of Soviet operatives within our own American political government? Soviet operatives secretly working for the Soviets? Including our current Soviet operative president that just might have been elected thru covert Soviet tactics directed from the highest levels of Soviet government?

We've seen some really great spy movies, but as they say no movie can outdo real life itself.
Donald Trump just could be a full blown red commie working for Putin and the soviets.
Determined and directed to tear down our form of government from within.
From within is a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than from without via an military attack.
Russia tried to stick nukes inside Cuba during JFK, and that didn't go well for the Russians.
Maybe Putin is smarter and seeks taking another route....
Infiltrating our United States government from within, and from the top down.
Is it so hard to believe the Chuck Grassleys and the Mitch McConnells of politics may have sold out to Soviet interests? For shit-loads of money? And shit-loads of power?
And that 2016 election intervention ensuring "FOREVER" that those in power will remain in power, despite what the US electorate desires?
This could explain all of that Alice in Wonderland nightmare we are witnessing now.....

 

[BonzaiDuck]

So who's to say Donald Trump IS NOT NOW AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN an active Soviet agent?
And I still believe that 2016 presidential election was in fact rigged and tamper with far beyond what officials detected. FAR BEYOND!!!!
In fact, one has to wonder if there were indeed clear evidence that Donald Trump won by the Soviet ability to access our system and change the figures thus changing the outcome?
We need to ask, if the FBI and CIA indeed had hard evidence of election corruption from the Soviets that flipped the outcome.... would we ever know? Would anyone tell us?
Would the government dare tell the people, especially after the fact, that our election system was compromised electronically and Donald Trump DID NOT actually win?
Would our government admitting that a foreign country could and indeed did control the outcome of an American election possibly had caused wide spread panic in America?
To create massive protest and civil unrest across our land?
Or... would the powers that be decide instead it would be better to say nothing at all?
Not to risk a nationwide panic by the American people?
Think about that.
What would THAT mean for our sovereignty and the trust in our institutions?
How would the American people react? And would our government risk finding out?

When you rewatch that election night coverage and every poll promising that Trump would lose and Hillary would definitely win, and also take note of how weird those election results came in with states that Trump won but was never expected to win, well... something about that seems very odd.
Hillary would be up in the count, then magically and mysteriously just enough votes popped up to give Trump the advantage. Then more votes came in supporting of Hillary and again only minutes later another chunk of votes mysteriously popped up to put Trump ahead.
And this oddity happened over and over, state by state where Trump won but was never expected to win.
Quite odd to say the least.

Yeah I know, I know.... that a lot of people just could not stomach Hillary. But still, enough to toss the election to Donald Trump? That pussy grabber? That con artist and wife cheater? Seriously, were there THAT MANY Donald Trump voters out there?
And with none of them having turned up in that pre-election polling?
Then afterwards, we discover Trump and his people had secret meetings with Soviet officials, and proof emerges of Soviet interference.
Is it so hard to believe or imagine that the Soviets WERE SUCCESSFUL in determining the outcome of the 2016 election?
And... is it so hard to believe that we had and still have a rats nest of Soviet operatives within our own American political government? Soviet operatives secretly working for the Soviets? Including our current Soviet operative president that just might have been elected thru covert Soviet tactics directed from the highest levels of Soviet government?

We've seen some really great spy movies, but as they say no movie can outdo real life itself.
Donald Trump just could be a full blown red commie working for Putin and the soviets.
Determined and directed to tear down our form of government from within.
From within is a hell of a lot easier and cheaper than from without via an military attack.
Russia tried to stick nukes inside Cuba during JFK, and that didn't go well for the Russians.
Maybe Putin is smarter and seeks taking another route....
Infiltrating our United States government from within, and from the top down.
Is it so hard to believe the Chuck Grassleys and the Mitch McConnells of politics may have sold out to Soviet interests? For shit-loads of money? And shit-loads of power?
And that 2016 election intervention ensuring "FOREVER" that those in power will remain in power, despite what the US electorate desires?
This could explain all of that Alice in Wonderland nightmare we are witnessing now.....

If I had a Xanax that I could pass on through this thread, I'd give you a couple.

Of course, I'm equally concerned. You keep using the term "the Soviets." Maybe the clueless twits who unwittingly worked in Putin's favor never read de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America." That RUSSIA and the US would be two super-power rivals in the future was an underlying prediction of the book. The book was published many decades before the 1917 Revolution.

After Gorbachev, whatever opportunity there may have been to divert "the Russians" away from their long authoritarian tradition, it was lost. Instead of encouraging a redistribution of post-Soviet assets to the largest number of people, the Commonwealth of Independent States quickly morphed into the "Communists'" worst assessment of American capitalism -- a world of oligarchs. So now, instead of Communism, they live under a kleptocracy run by a criminal gang.

So inserting Donald into the Oval Office fits perfectly in the globalization of that model.

 

[Viper1j]

It goes beyond that entirely. Donald Trump is the greatest confidence artist who ever lived. Witness where he is today.

How it works-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

Trump is the greatest of them all-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_con_artists

Two names not on the list are, Jim Jones, and Donald Trump

 

[PJFrylar]

I like that you include Manafort as someone that "has nothing to do with Russia." ...lol--do you even read? What do you actually know about Manafort and his very-well-known history and what he has been indicted for? Nothing to do with Russia? lol--do you believe the things that you are typing? Are you really these blithely unconcerned about how boldly stupid you sound?

As for referring to your thorough, recorded history of strongly condemning Obama for every single thing he did--what else can it be? I ask you this. It is without a single iota of dispute that every single thing that you "simply don't care Trump is doing," are exactly the same things that you stupidly and blindly claimed Obama of doing--you know, like they were crimes. Like he was an evil emperor. So, I ask you: what else could it be? You hated Obama because you invented crimes that he never committed, yet simply don't care that Trump is factually committing such crimes--and far, far, far worse crimes. You simply don't care.

What else can it be? Why such a proud hypocrite?

We all know why he won't really accept the Mueller findings. He has been shifting the goal posts repeatedly; every time his ignorance of the situation is made clear to him - he clutches on to something else. He makes a god damned fool of himself in the process. How can he seriously make the point he tried to make from a position of being informed? He can't. I guess that I kind of admire the audacity, though I'm happy I'm not such a god damned fool.

Edit: One side claims that higher education is bad and that the press is the enemy of the people. Yes, Trump god damned fucking said that. He loves the uneducated, and we are all well aware of his disdain for the press. I wonder why they are afraid of education and an informed people? Maybe it is because their god damned bullshit doesn't pass the muster. What a fucking shit show politics has become in this country. It makes me sick, but I don't know if it would really be that better anywhere else. Humans have been completely shitty in the past, continue to be completely shitty, and I don't know if I have much left hope that we will ever stop being shitty. People like pcgeek are as exactly happy as pigs in shit though.

 

[fskimospy]

Well this seems legit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

 

[K1052]

Well this seems legit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

What. The fuck.

 

[alien42]

Well this seems legit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

"President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said."

no puppet, no puppet.

i am aware of trumps propensity to take notes, wad them up and throw them out.

 

[PJFrylar]

Hmm.. I can't quite figure why Trump came out of a meeting with Putin looking like a kicked dog while Putin was looking happier than a pig in shit. Then Trump proceeded to say why he didn't think the attack on our integrity of our elections could have been Russia. Of course, Trump would later claim he misspoke. If you look at the context of the line, he didn't misspeak. None of what he said from the paragraphs around that sentence would make sense. Putin made him his bitch on an international statement. Clear as god damned day. People still supporting Trump are fucking traitors. I, for one, will never forgive them. The Russians said they would destroy America from within, that's what the attempt looks like. Hopefully, enough of us love our country to not allow this to happen.

 

[fskimospy]

Hey pcgeek, any thoughts about this?

 

[kage69]

Well this seems legit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

This is going to get ugly.

 

[feralkid]

Hey pcgeek, any thoughts about this?

Insert Baghdad Bob gif here.

 

[Viper1j]

Hmm.. I can't quite figure why Trump came out of a meeting with Putin looking like a kicked dog while Putin was looking happier than a pig in shit. Then Trump proceeded to say why he didn't think the attack on our integrity of our elections could have been Russia.

Because Vlad made him swallow..

 

[PJFrylar]

Because Vlad made him swallow..

View attachment 2402

Who is your daddy and what does he do?

 

[Viper1j]

Who is your daddy and what does he do?

Put Donny on the corner

 

[PJFrylar]

Insert Baghdad Bob gif here.

I do believe he meant to ... @pcgeek11

Let's just call this traitorous child out directly. I won't even give him the honor of calling him a man child. Nothing he has ever espoused on this forum espouses integrity. That is what being a man, or decent human being in general, is about. God damned integrity. That is something that boybaby could only dream about having. He's a traitor to his own fucking country while he jacks it to how much of a patriot he is. God damned pathetic.

 

[cytg111]

Tabloid stuff to rile up sheep.

Also from the story:

"No evidence has emerged publicly that Mr. Trump was secretly in contact with or took direction from Russian government officials. An F.B.I. spokeswoman and a spokesman for the special counsel’s office both declined to comment."

Is this investigation closed? It has been years and nothing has come of it.

Yea you are right, nothing to see here ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-hid-records-of-his-conversations-with-putin-2019-1

Nothing at all.
Collaborator.

 

[mikeymikec]

We all know why he won't really accept the Mueller findings.

I think you all misunderstand pcgeek's position. IMO he thinks that by continually claiming that we should "wait for the facts", "wait for the investigation" etc, yet while also claiming that media sources critical of Trump are biased, he thinks that he'll be able to walk away from Trump's resignation/impeachment while claiming that he was "fair and balanced".

Trump is his current means to an end. Trump isn't a piece of shit until the GOP is convinced that their party's chances at the next election will be hurt more by his corruption than it will be aided by his anti-everyone-except-the-white-hetero-rich-'Christian' aims. In order to offset their obvious 180, people like pcgeek might try to act a little more proactively by denouncing Trump when they're sure that the GOP is just about to.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Well this seems legit.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f6686c-1434-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html

Liberal slant is obvious, the swamp wasn't drained so he couldn't trust all those people. Huzzah!

 

[ch33zw1z]

Yea you are right, nothing to see here ...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-hid-records-of-his-conversations-with-putin-2019-1

Nothing at all.
Collaborator.

I think it's funny how he throws in a "nothing has come of it", when that's obviously false. How many indictments? How many pled out?

He's little brain is so beghazified that reality is just not within reach.

 

[PJFrylar]

I think you all misunderstand pcgeek's position. IMO he thinks that by continually claiming that we should "wait for the facts", "wait for the investigation" etc, yet while also claiming that media sources critical of Trump are biased, he thinks that he'll be able to walk away from Trump's resignation/impeachment while claiming that he was "fair and balanced".

Trump is his current means to an end. Trump isn't a piece of shit until the GOP is convinced that their party's chances at the next election will be hurt more by his corruption than it will be aided by his anti-everyone-except-the-white-hetero-rich-'Christian' aims. In order to offset their obvious 180, people like pcgeek might try to act a little more proactively by denouncing Trump when they're sure that the GOP is just about to.

While I think that is a very insightful response, I don't think we should overly rationalize where we are. Russia has made a clear attempt to destroy us from within, just like they said they would. To me, that's what Trump looks like, and people still supporting him are traitors.

 

[cytg111]

While I think that is a very insightful response, I don't think we should overly rationalize where we are. Russia has made a clear attempt to destroy us from within, just like they said they would. To me, that's what Trump looks like, and people still supporting him are traitors.

What should worry everybody is, what happens post trump when, IF, a sane candidate takes over the white house. What level of retaliation torwards Russia are we speaking about? Realizing this, what kind of measures will Putin take to keep that from happening, keep a Trump in the WH, subvert american democracy once and for all? All that shit can escalate very very quickly .. of course my mind is already on the nukes but im paranoid like that.