pete6032
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Rural and small town Michigan is batshit crazy Trump Country. I've driving through it plenty enough to know.
zinfamous
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2 men acquitted in plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer; jury deadlocks on 2 others
Adam Fox, Barry Croft Jr., Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta were charged with conspiracy, and three faced weapons charges.www.cbsnews.com
Only a surprise to the lefty dimwits that populate ATP&N
the pedophile climbs out of his little porno den to drop this nugget of dumbshittery.
sportage
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Within our legal system you need a strong case and guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The fact that government agents were involved before the fact, having had influence as to where this was headed was the flaw in the plan. The plan to hold these people accountable. Oh sure.... it's ugly and seems so unfair for these guys to get off, but say hello to the American legal system at work. One would imagine that professionals could do better, or don't do it at all.
UNCjigga
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2 men acquitted in plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer; jury deadlocks on 2 others
Adam Fox, Barry Croft Jr., Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta were charged with conspiracy, and three faced weapons charges.
Only a surprise to the lefty dimwits that populate ATP&N
Only a surprise to the dimwits who didn’t read this whole thread.
brandonbull
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Gardener
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The representing attorney portrays his client as a hapless loser, living in the basement of a Grand Rapids-area vacuum shop, smoking marijuana whenever possible and totally incapable of leading the wild plot.
Lost_in_the_HTTP
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I personally think jury deliberations should be recorded and subject to review under limited circumstances. Jurors found to refuse to deliberate in good faith should be subject to penalties.
Fenixgoon
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And how do you assess that? Don't get me wrong, it's very easy to spot. But there's not a good way to define it the same way you can measure speed, BAC, etc.
hal2kilo
Lifer
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Marijuana is such a debilitating drug. I completely understand. /s
zinfamous
No Lifer
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Oh no, not TomWanks, too! He and HenryHammerdick were my favorite totally legit new members!
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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He assesses it by juries doing what he wants, when he wants and how he wants. Fuck the law, fuck the Constitution and fuck the accused civil rights.
The concern about the law, the Constitution, and civil rights from the guy who advocates for blindly murdering people with hand grenades is pretty funny.
ch33zw1z
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dainthomas
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That's almost exactly like the Mohamud case in Portland in 2010. He was found guilty though. I wonder why?
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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You are a lying piece of shit and you know it. Even you, as stupid and ignorant as you are, should be able to see that this entire episode was a politically driven FBI entrapment.
ch33zw1z
Lifer
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I guess it’s only entrapment when the criminals are white conservatives.
ivwshane
Lifer
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He’s gotta protect his fellow terrorists traitors.
HomerJS
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imported_tajmahal
Lifer
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There was a time that liberals looked with a suspicious eye on conspiracies and dangers and other presentations by the FBI and took them with a grain of salt the size of a car. To see a dumbass like yourself be so gullible and ready to accept every idiotic thing they do and have done is hilarious.
The FBI and Martin Luther King
Martin Luther King was never himself a Communist—far from it. But the FBI's wiretapping of King was precipitated by his association with Stanley Levison, a man with reported ties to the Communist Party. Newly available documents reveal what the FBI actually knew—the vast extent of Levison's...
The Top 10 Greatest FBI FAILs Of All Time
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has a reputation for being one of the most infallible government agencies in the country. They've become a symbol of success and secrecy in both domestic and international crime and continue to prove their skills on a daily basis. But everyone makes mistakes....
www.ranker.com
The same old FBI, just a different target that you like.
zinfamous
No Lifer
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Finally, an honest assessment of what you really think coming out of your mouth.
UNCjigga
Lifer
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There was a time that liberals looked with a suspicious eye on conspiracies and dangers and other presentations by the FBI and took them with a grain of salt the size of a car. To see a dumbass like yourself be so gullible and ready to accept every idiotic thing they do and have done is hilarious.
The FBI and Martin Luther King
Martin Luther King was never himself a Communist—far from it. But the FBI's wiretapping of King was precipitated by his association with Stanley Levison, a man with reported ties to the Communist Party. Newly available documents reveal what the FBI actually knew—the vast extent of Levison's...www.theatlantic.com
The Top 10 Greatest FBI FAILs Of All Time
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has a reputation for being one of the most infallible government agencies in the country. They've become a symbol of success and secrecy in both domestic and international crime and continue to prove their skills on a daily basis. But everyone makes mistakes....
The same old FBI, just a different target that you like.
We’re not arguing that these tactics are now all of a sudden “good”. We’re asking why do courts convict in some cases and acquit in others, and whether the judge’s/juries’ sympathies are related to skin color/background???
Whenever the new Hassan Minhaj special (King’s Jester) drops on Netflix, he’ll have a goody
segment on how Muslims were targeted post 9/11 with these same tactics. I went to a pre-taping show and learned a lot more about this case:
Supreme Court to hear arguments on FBI's surveillance of mosques
The argument will focus on whether this case can move forward at all because the government argues that for it to produce any of the evidence gathered 15 years ago would jeopardize national security.
www.npr.org
imported_tajmahal
Lifer
- Jul 9, 2009
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Same old FBI, just another target that you don't like.We’re not arguing that these tactics are now all of a sudden “good”. We’re asking why do courts convict in some cases and acquit in others, and whether the judge’s/juries’ sympathies are related to skin color/background???
Whenever the new Hassan Minhaj special (King’s Jester) drops on Netflix, he’ll have a goody
segment on how Muslims were targeted post 9/11 with these same tactics. I went to a pre-taping show and learned a lot more about this case:
Supreme Court to hear arguments on FBI's surveillance of mosques
The argument will focus on whether this case can move forward at all because the government argues that for it to produce any of the evidence gathered 15 years ago would jeopardize national security.
UNCjigga
Lifer
- Dec 12, 2000
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Are we chanting “LOCK THEM UP!” at wannabe klan rallies? No?? Steal their diaries or post the contents of their laptops? STFU then.
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