fatties, you can stop blaming your genes for your weight problem

[MJinZ]

stop using "neff"'ing as an excuse.
we all know you're a loser in real life with no friends. don't gimme that "i'm studying for grad school" BS either.
you fucking posted on AT all weekend, every fucking waking hour.

fuck man, i put you right up there with skim milk. what's up with these asian social outcasts on AT.

LOLOL, no shit. I'm either at work, or in front of my laptop. Put two and two together yet?

BlahBlah, your obsession with fat people is unhealthy.

 

[MJinZ]

Yet you still are grossly overweight yet you have no qualms critisizing others who are as fat as you. Obviously you are doing it wrong.

"Grossly" overweight? Lol, dipshit when I'm at 180, I have basically no fat (been there, done that every few years I go up and down on my weight). Doing it "wrong"? Hahah, nobody knows this little secret but I'll tell you right now, for a 50 something year old, you had about 30 more years to train than anybody my age LOL. Fuck, all the old farts at my gym are at least that big, you actually that's *special*? :awe:

 

[MJinZ]

MJinz, sorry dude, but uh...you're fat yourself, so I don't think anyone should take advice from you. You do not know what you're talking about.



This is the difference between you and a real athlete, which is fine and all, but don't think you're on the same level.



Although true, Red Dawn, judging from his pic, is a pretty big guy. Anyone that weighs 230lbs of muscle would probably crush you.

Why are you making stuff up in your head? LOL... athlete... sorry, I have a 9-5 job and I'm taking grad exams... athlete lol...

 

[MJinZ]

My friend goes to the gym once a fortnight and he's more tank than you.

My friend also goes to the gym once a fortnight and he's more tank than me too. Are you a fucking idiot? It depends on what he does for a living and how old he is and his training in his past. At a certain point, you don't have to be training much at all to keep what you have.

 

[Ninjahedge]

For some people there are other factors, I eat 2-3x more than most "fat" people I know, yet I couldn't break 210# if I tried. According to what you said, I should be 500lb easily, but I'm right around 200.

I was 6'0" and 140 coming out of HS.

Now, 21 years later I am only at 170, curling 50's and still drinking beer every night.

Why? Metabolism has a good deal to play with it, but I also do not try to stuff my face, I exercise, and I am just generally a healthier individual.

And saying that you eat 2x-3x more than fatties is a little off as well. If you actually counted calories you would find that although you eat more, it is rarely on a scale that dramatic.

That said, when you talk AVERAGES and the GENERAL PUBLIC, you will get people that can eat a wagonload and stay velow 150 while others turn ino blimps on sunflower seeds. But we have NEVER had this many fatties IN OUR HISTORY. Genetics plays a small part in this latest wave of belly jelly.

I could try my hardest to gain weight I still won't be able to, so I'm going to say there are some people who have the opposite problem I have. Even if it's only .5% of the population that's still a hellova lot of people.

Yeah, but that is not the, what was it, 70%, of the US that is having problems.

When I was in elementary school you always had a few butterballs. Maybe about 2-3 in a class of 30. But nowadays, half the class is out of shape and half of THEM are porky! (and kids are supposed to have higher metabolism! They also are kind of limited to what their parents feed them....so....)

 

[Ninjahedge]

Because they don't take in enough calories for the maintnence of their bodies and the body responds by lowering their metabolism. That's why most extreme diets usually end up failing. Here's a thread in the Health and Fitness forum discussing the best way to lose weight.

Agreed. That is why I recommended the 200 calorie reduction.

It will take longer, but it will also be less difficult and probably last a lifetime.

 

[ShawnD1]

what's up with these asian social outcasts on AT.

They're good with computers

 

[shortylickens]

I don't think the military is a valid counter example. If most people had a drill sergeant yelling at them all day to lose weight, they'd lose weight. But they don't have an external motivator like that. External motivation isn't finite, internal is.

There have been a couple good studies on this, let me go find one.

I was right. You havent served.
If everyone needed a drill sergent yelling at them all day the military would never get anything accomplished.
99% of the work is initiative, not orders, and damn sure not yelling.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Mj, seriously, can the perfection stance.

If you are yo-yoing between weights it isn't healthy and shows you have very little paience and control. You go on benders and starvation diets and try to claim Pizza is a good work-out food.

It isn't.

Why?

1. Lots of fat in the cheese (if it is a good fresh cheese)
2. Acid in the tomato sauce comes back up on you when working hard. Reflux anyone?
3. Simple carbs in plain flour bread. Not anything too complex. Better than Sugar, to be sure, but it will not help you in the long run.

Is it evil? No, but it isn't smart either.

Now, as for your reluctance to get a 6-pack. Guess what, if you were 180 and did not have one, you were still fat. Hell, I had a "6 pack" when I was a kid and you could see my ribs! In general, the main thing you need for washboards is a lack of abdominal fat. The ONLY way you get that is consistent diet.

Here's the test. If you tighten everything in a flex-your-ass-off pose, jump up, and when you land things still giggle, you are carrying baggage. Until you get to th epoint where this does not happen, you are still just making excuses for your own level of obesity.

Looking at your pic posted, you are fat. Possibly Obese by clinical definitions, but definitely overweight. As pointed out, you got Moobs (man boobs). If you want to lose this stuff, just exercise 3 times a week, and curb the crap intake.

BTW, the celery on the side of the wing plate is not considered a "salad". Go eat some garlic fried broccoli or string beans with portabello mushrooms ya doofus.

 

[fail]

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[Ninjahedge]

Why are you making stuff up in your head? LOL... athlete... sorry, I have a 9-5 job and I'm taking grad exams... athlete lol...

I was going to grad school where I was up at 8:30, went to classes, went to the gym, played Ultimate, studied, and went to bed at 3:30 in the morning for weeks at a time.

You can find time to exercise.

30 min a day is all you need if you do it right. You do not need 8 sets of bench press. You are not isolating your tri's or your lat's. Do a few supersets, split it into a 2 day rotation and SCHEDULE it and you will find the time.

There are very few people on this planet that actually have too little time to do the basics.

 

[Ninjahedge]

I was right. You havent served.
If everyone needed a drill sergent yelling at them all day the military would never get anything accomplished.
99% of the work is initiative, not orders, and damn sure not yelling.

I think what he is saying is that the military is not a completely valid example in that it does not fit with the situations many are in.

In the military they not only motivate you, but train you to KEEP it.

In the "real world" you are not drilled (unless you are REALLY friendly to people..... ). You are not motivated in the first place, and not trained to keep it, so the analogy/comparison does not fit directly.

What it DOES show, however, is that people CAN traion to get that motivation and keep it.

But, as some heavier vets have shown, it can be lost even after military training.

 

[disappoint]

But I like to stuff my face!

You can still stuff your face. Just not the mouth part of your face.

 

[MJinZ]

I was going to grad school where I was up at 8:30, went to classes, went to the gym, played Ultimate, studied, and went to bed at 3:30 in the morning for weeks at a time.

You can find time to exercise.

30 min a day is all you need if you do it right. You do not need 8 sets of bench press. You are not isolating your tri's or your lat's. Do a few supersets, split it into a 2 day rotation and SCHEDULE it and you will find the time.

There are very few people on this planet that actually have too little time to do the basics.

lol, you don't need to worry about me. I'm in the gym for 2 hours a day, 6 days a week. Gym is the only thing I do now aside from hanging out on Fridays and some weekends. Got a month or so before my test.

Also School is not as busy as work + studying. I'm itching to go back to school now.

 

[MJinZ]

Mj, seriously, can the perfection stance.

If you are yo-yoing between weights it isn't healthy and shows you have very little paience and control. You go on benders and starvation diets and try to claim Pizza is a good work-out food.

It isn't.

Why?

1. Lots of fat in the cheese (if it is a good fresh cheese)
2. Acid in the tomato sauce comes back up on you when working hard. Reflux anyone?
3. Simple carbs in plain flour bread. Not anything too complex. Better than Sugar, to be sure, but it will not help you in the long run.

Is it evil? No, but it isn't smart either.

Now, as for your reluctance to get a 6-pack. Guess what, if you were 180 and did not have one, you were still fat. Hell, I had a "6 pack" when I was a kid and you could see my ribs! In general, the main thing you need for washboards is a lack of abdominal fat. The ONLY way you get that is consistent diet.

Here's the test. If you tighten everything in a flex-your-ass-off pose, jump up, and when you land things still giggle, you are carrying baggage. Until you get to th epoint where this does not happen, you are still just making excuses for your own level of obesity.

Looking at your pic posted, you are fat. Possibly Obese by clinical definitions, but definitely overweight. As pointed out, you got Moobs (man boobs). If you want to lose this stuff, just exercise 3 times a week, and curb the crap intake.

BTW, the celery on the side of the wing plate is not considered a "salad". Go eat some garlic fried broccoli or string beans with portabello mushrooms ya doofus.

Haha, never starved and never will.

The only reason I yoyo is when I cut down to 175-180 and then stop going to the gym and go back up to 220. Also, college was like the Freshmen 15 etc... every single year due to college food and bulking.

It's easy as hell to lose it in a few months time while working out, it's not as quick this time because I actually want to keep all of my strength gains as well.

By the way, I really don't care about your definition of thin vs fat. Some people think havings washboard abs is all that... it really isn't. It's a pussified body type that I have no interest in pursuing. As long as BF% is down enough that the rest of the body becomes hardened, I do not care about abs.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Gotta love when people who don't gain weight judge those who do.

I have been skinny all my life, (gained a bit in my 30s and started weight lifting) and never had to starve myself. But I gotta tell you this, if your body wants food, it will drive you CRAZY until it gets it. There's no way to fool it, or distract it. It will consume ALL your thoughts. Now imagine having this overwhelming compulsion while surrounded by food everywhere you go, but you have to force yourself to not eat. Good fucking luck.

This is why 90+% of all diets fail.

Don't judge others until you've walked a mile in their shoes. (by then you'll be a mile away and they'll have no shoes )

Try cutting your calorie intake in half for a month. No cheating. Now imagine having to keep that up for the rest of your life. None of the skinny people will do this. They'd rather just judge others and think being skinny is all about will power... when it comes naturally to them and they've never had to go hungry while surrounded by food. Dumbasses.

Cutting 1/2 my calory intake I would be below my BMR. I eat about ~2500 calories daily, am 6'2, and 175 lbs (roughly), and do regular 6+ mile runs. I will freely admit I have started to gain a little pudge in my abs which I'm working on by regular exercise with eating healthier, and guess what? My abs are starting to get some more definition again. Dropping down to 1200 calories would be unhealthy.

Now, regarding obese people, a lot (not all) are eating 3000+ calories a day. Nobody should cut 50% of their calories for a month. You should reduce calories and perhaps have an end goal of 50%, but you shouldn't ever do that overnight. If you are that obese where you are eating 3000-4000, or more, calories a day then you should work towards eating healthier choices. Get rid of soda and sugar based drinks, control portions, change crap like chips and sweets for fruit and veggies. Honestly it's not that difficult.

Oh, and regarding your comment about "going hungry." The reason people are always hungry is because they are "empty calories." Fruits, veggies, and whole grains will keep your body feeling full for longer. Eating high sugar, processed foods with little to no nutritional value (outside of fat, sodium, sugar, etc) will NOT keep a person feeling full.

 

[thecoolnessrune]

I used to be big from about 15 years old all the way up till recent and am now doing something about it.. I'm losing about 2-3 pounds a week which to me is fantastic. I look in the mirror and I'm proud of myself. At 6'1" and 200lbs. at last weight check I got progress still to make.

Considering that I look a little skinnier than jinz and with much smaller arms, I think I'm going to continue leaving my shirt on for another 5-6 months considering the impression of this thread

 

[MJinZ]

I used to be big from about 15 years old all the way up till recent and am now doing something about it.. I'm losing about 2-3 pounds a week which to me is fantastic. I look in the mirror and I'm proud of myself. At 6'1" and 200lbs. at last weight check I got progress still to make.

Considering that I look a little skinnier than jinz and with much smaller arms, I think I'm going to continue leaving my shirt on for another 5-6 months considering the impression of this thread

yea lol I put one pic of myself from a few months ago online in someone else's lifting progress thread, and suddenly Blahblah's saved it as his Wallpaper.

He's like a closet homosexual, only he's a closet chubby chaser.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

lol, you don't need to worry about me. I'm in the gym for 2 hours a day, 6 days a week. Gym is the only thing I do now aside from hanging out on Fridays and some weekends. Got a month or so before my test.

Also School is not as busy as work + studying. I'm itching to go back to school now.

apparently "hanging out on fridays and weekends" means posting non-stop on AT to certain chubby chinese guys.

 

[MJinZ]

apparently "hanging out on fridays and weekends" means posting non-stop on AT to certain chubby chinese guys.

Yes indeed it does. How much fun have you had investigating my posting behavior? Sometimes I even post on my Droid... tis true!

BlahBlah, you are a true stalker with a fat fetish. :awe: Am I your favorite poster here on ATOT? Don't worry, I won't tell.

 

[Red Dawn]

yea lol I put one pic of myself from a few months ago online in someone else's lifting progress thread, and suddenly Blahblah's saved it as his Wallpaper.

He's like a closet homosexual, only he's a closet chubby chaser.

You think he wants to roll you in flour and have his way with you like some kind of giant dumpling?

 

[bommy261]

You think he wants to roll you in flour and have his way with you like some kind of giant dumpling?

lol..

 

[MJinZ]

You think he wants to roll you in flour and have his way with you like some kind of giant dumpling?

Not really, he would if I was white though. He is the most overtly racist person here probably.

 

[cheezy321]

I used to be big from about 15 years old all the way up till recent and am now doing something about it.. I'm losing about 2-3 pounds a week which to me is fantastic. I look in the mirror and I'm proud of myself. At 6'1" and 200lbs. at last weight check I got progress still to make.

Considering that I look a little skinnier than jinz and with much smaller arms, I think I'm going to continue leaving my shirt on for another 5-6 months considering the impression of this thread

Yes, here is what im looking for! Someone with the balls and motivation to actually do something about his weight!

Keep it up man, that's some good stuff to hear!

 

[BarkingGhostar]

sure, you may be genetically pre-disposed to being bigger than another person, but it all comes down to diet and exercise.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39606125/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/

Sure, Auschwitz survivors proved that anyone can lose weight, right?