fatties, you can stop blaming your genes for your weight problem

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sure, you may be genetically pre-disposed to being bigger than another person, but it all comes down to diet and exercise.

LONDON — Scientists have found more than 30 new gene variations linked to obesity and fat in research they say could help explain why some people get so overweight, and why some are apple shaped and some shaped like pears.

An international team of more than 400 scientists from 280 research institutions said their results give more insight into the biological processes that can lead to obesity and may in future help in developing new ways to treat or prevent it.

But they said that while genes do play a role in obesity and weight problems, they stressed that they account for only a fraction of the reason people are overweight with the main culprits being a bad diet and lack of exercise.

"We should not forget that, while the genetic contribution to obesity is substantial, a large part of obesity susceptibility remains down to our lifestyle," said Ruth Loos of the Medical Research Council's Epidemiology Unit in Cambridge, who also worked on the research.

In the first of two studies published in the journal Nature Genetics Sunday, the scientists identified 13 new gene regions where variations in DNA sequence can be linked to whether a person is are apple-shaped or pear-shaped.

Most of these variations have a markedly stronger effect in women than in men, they said.

Previous studies have found that where we store fat in our bodies can affect our health. More fat around the waist -- being apple-shaped -- is linked with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes and heart disease, while having a fat bum and thighs -- being pear-shaped -- has been suggested in some research to offer some protection against diabetes and high blood pressure.

"By finding genes that have an important role in influencing whether we are apple-shaped or pear-shaped, and the ways in which that differs between men and women, we hope to home in on the crucial underlying biological processes," said Cecilia Lindgren of Oxford University, who worked on both studies.

"As efforts to tackle obesity through changes in lifestyle or by different treatment options have proved extremely challenging, the potential to alter patterns of fat distribution may offer an alternative for future drug discovery."

The second study looked for genes connected to body mass index (BMI) -- a weight-to-height ratio measure used to classify whether adults are overweight or obese. A BMI of between 25 and 30 is overweight and a BMI of 30 or over is obese.

Using almost 250,000 people in a genome wide association study -- which involves scanning entire gene maps for DNA clues -- the researchers found 18 new genetic regions linked to BMI, more than doubling the DNA variations found so far to 32.

Some of the new findings suggest the involvement of genes active in the brain that influence appetite, they said, and some suggest genes involved in controlling insulin and metabolism.

The study also found that people who inherit many of the BMI-increasing DNA variants from their parents weigh between seven and in kilograms more than those who inherit few of the variants. This difference in weight is solely due to the fact that they differ genetically, the scientists wrote.

"These two studies are the beginning of new insights into to biology of obesity and body shape, which in turn may lead to more targeted approaches to obesity prevention and potentially to the development of new drugs," Loos said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39606125/ns/health-diet_and_nutrition/
 

MJinZ

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OMG I have really missed fat threads from BlahBlah!!!

Welcome back!
 

moshquerade

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this is just like people who say, "my gums bleed, it runs in my family" :doh:

you may have a predisposition to it, but you're only going to get gum disease because of improper plaque removal dumbass.
 

LittleNemoNES

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I'm a liberal guy but really McDonald's serving relatively healthy meals, options like subway, etc, and watching people's eating habits even when they DO buy wholesome foods has led me to believe that the root of the problem hasn't been access to healthy choices but personal responsibility.

Even in my family I can see that they eat buckets of rice or red meat even if they know they are hurting a medical condition (diabetes, cholesterol)

Education ain't it either: they KNOW it is bad for them but 'once in a while' (as in once a day...) it's ok...
 

MJinZ

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I'm a liberal guy but really McDonald's serving relatively healthy meals, options like subway, etc, and watching people's eating habits even when they DO buy wholesome foods has led me to believe that the root of the problem hasn't been access to healthy choices but personal responsibility.

Even in my family I can see that they eat buckets of rice or red meat even if they know they are hurting a medical condition (diabetes, cholesterol)

Love Subway and Quiznos! :awe:
 

Squisher

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I'm big boned.

What, you've never seen a fat skeleton?



btw-the article itself says that they are just preliminary studies. There doesn't seem to be anything addressing metabolism other than there are studies being conducted and there doesn't seem to be anything addressing the fact some people find the feelings of hunger to be an overwhelming desire.

To say that this study truly ends the notion of a genetic influence on obesity is premature.
 

SlowSpyder

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I love pizza and beer too, and I eat them all the time. Learn to moderate and work out a few days a week.

I do work out and get in a little exercise, just not enough. No excuses on my part, but I have a family, work full time, and go to school full time... so when I have an hour or two I tend to use it for relaxation. I'd like to drop 30lbs, just got to suck it up and get to work at it.
 

sjwaste

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I'm a liberal guy but really McDonald's serving relatively healthy meals, options like subway, etc, and watching people's eating habits even when they DO buy wholesome foods has led me to believe that the root of the problem hasn't been access to healthy choices but personal responsibility.

Even in my family I can see that they eat buckets of rice or red meat even if they know they are hurting a medical condition (diabetes, cholesterol)

Education ain't it either: they KNOW it is bad for them but 'once in a while' (as in once a day...) it's ok...

It's funny that McDonalds absolutely gets hammered because they're the big player in the fast food market. They also have some of the healthiest choices available. Some of which have been on the menu for decades.

The regular cheeseburger is 300 calories. Same with the egg mcmuffin. As a bonus, the egg mcmuffin is still made from an actual egg, not some chemical concoction that comprises their "folded egg product" in the other breakfast items. Grilled chicken sandwich isn't awful for you - maybe hold the mayo or take off some of the bread?

I eat plenty of fast food. In fact, I once lost 20 lbs eating McDonalds 2-3x a day for a couple of months. It was a matter of making responsible choices, and every once in a while, having a pint of ice cream just to keep the diet honest.
 

rcpratt

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It's funny that McDonalds absolutely gets hammered because they're the big player in the fast food market. They also have some of the healthiest choices available. Some of which have been on the menu for decades.

The regular cheeseburger is 300 calories. Same with the egg mcmuffin. As a bonus, the egg mcmuffin is still made from an actual egg, not some chemical concoction that comprises their "folded egg product" in the other breakfast items. Grilled chicken sandwich isn't awful for you - maybe hold the mayo or take off some of the bread?

I eat plenty of fast food. In fact, I once lost 20 lbs eating McDonalds 2-3x a day for a couple of months. It was a matter of making responsible choices, and every once in a while, having a pint of ice cream just to keep the diet honest.
Yeah...it's not that bad. People need to learn how to regulate themselves. Personally, I would rather make sacrifices on the amount of food rather than what I like. If I go to McD's (pretty unusual, but I went Saturday and didn't feel guilty since I puked my guts out all morning/afternoon...haha), I'll get a crispy chicken sandwich, a small fry, and a water. I know crispy isn't as good for you, but if you don't waste 300 calories on an enormous coke it's really not an awful dinner.

Of course, you'd have to go healthier (grilled) if you were doing that 3 meals a day, but that just doesn't sound appetizing anyways.
 

Ns1

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this morbidly obese woman that i see at the park every saturday pounds down a supersized del taco burrito combo meal every time. With nacho cheese and chips to boot.
 

Schadenfroh

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You are set in your primitive ways. It is never an individual's fault that he or she has a bad habit, it is always their genes, their parents or society itself. We have moved on from an age of individual responsibility and we have the government to take care of us now.
 
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OMG I have really missed fat threads from BlahBlah!!!

Welcome back!

unlike these amazing threads you start.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2111115&highlight=
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2110802&highlight=

fuck man, i have trouble searching your threads because you post a shit ton. do you have a fucking life outside of AT?
this weekend alone, you have 200+ posts. friday night, sat night... damn do you get out much?

how about you go out and drive your autotragic camry with "F-sport wheels", ok azn?
go learn how to drive stick so you can buy your elise.