fatties, you can stop blaming your genes for your weight problem

[lxskllr]

You are set in your primitive ways. It is never an individual's fault that he or she has a bad habit, it is always their genes, their parents or society itself. We have moved on from an age of individual responsibility and we have the government to take care of us now.

Never mind physics. These people have physics defying conditions that produce matter from nothing :^D

 

[MJinZ]

unlike these amazing threads you start.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2111115&highlight=
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2110802&highlight=

fuck man, i have trouble searching your threads because you post a shit ton. do you have a fucking life outside of AT?
this weekend alone, you have 200+ posts. friday night, sat night... damn do you get out much?

how about you go out and drive your autotragic camry with "F-sport wheels", ok azn?
go learn how to drive stick so you can buy your elise.

LOL no life right now, I'm at the library when I'm not working. It's called studying for grad school, which takes up 1/2 the time, the other 1/2 I post here.

And no, I will not buy a Manual Car. I'll live a double clutch and paddle shifters thanks. The Evora is also being supercharged and comes with an Auto as well. I know the Evora is autotragic cause it uses my car's Engine AND Auto transmission and yet still kills it on the track. It's a total tragedy.

 

[MotF Bane]

blahblahyoutoo vs mjinz!
troll fight!

 

[Blackjack200]

But they said that while genes do play a role in obesity and weight problems, they stressed that they account for only a fraction of the reason people are overweight with the main culprits being a bad diet and lack of exercise.

And, along with environment, a pretty substantial fraction if you're paying attention.

"We should not forget that, while the genetic contribution to obesity is substantial, a large part of obesity susceptibility remains down to our lifestyle," said Ruth Loos of the Medical Research Council's Epidemiology Unit in Cambridge, who also worked on the research.

Right, and our lifestyle is also highly dependant on our genetics and our environment. But no, let's not try to understand the problem, lets just call obese people fat lazy pigs and gawk at them.

Some of the new findings suggest the involvement of genes active in the brain that influence appetite, they said, and some suggest genes involved in controlling insulin and metabolism.

So if they want to lose weight, all they have to do is overcome one of the strongest and most basic biological urges they have? Wow, what losers!

The study also found that people who inherit many of the BMI-increasing DNA variants from their parents weigh between seven and in kilograms more than those who inherit few of the variants. This difference in weight is solely due to the fact that they differ genetically, the scientists wrote.

Oh, ok, so it is genetic? Thanks for clarifying, article.

"These two studies are the beginning of new insights into to biology of obesity and body shape, which in turn may lead to more targeted approaches to obesity prevention and potentially to the development of new drugs," Loos said.

In other words we're going to try to stop just telling people "eat less and exercise more", and look for things that might actually work.

 

[MJinZ]

blahblahyoutoo vs mjinz!
troll fight!

I just watched the latest episode of Family Guy and you remind me of a great line by Quagmire. "Nobody cares what you think Brian". :awe:

This applies to a lot of people here who troll threads with worthless one liners. Truly sad existences you must lead if you are not even going to bother making useless arguments on the internet, left only with useless one liner trollerflames people simply ignore. :hmm:

 

[Born2bwire]

In other words we're going to try to stop just telling people "eat less and exercise more", and look for things that might actually work.

You mean like eating less and exercising more? Because I'm pretty sure they said that... Where was it? Hmmmm...

But they said that while genes do play a role in obesity and weight problems, they stressed that they account for only a fraction of the reason people are overweight with the main culprits being a bad diet and lack of exercise.

"We should not forget that, while the genetic contribution to obesity is substantial, a large part of obesity susceptibility remains down to our lifestyle," said Ruth Loos of the Medical Research Council's Epidemiology Unit in Cambridge, who also worked on the research.

Shit... I know it's here somewhere but why do they have to dance around the issue and not just come out and say it?

 

[ss284]

I think "eating less and exercising more" actually works if the person actually does these things.

 

[Amused]

Gotta love when people who don't gain weight judge those who do.

I have been skinny all my life, (gained a bit in my 30s and started weight lifting) and never had to starve myself. But I gotta tell you this, if your body wants food, it will drive you CRAZY until it gets it. There's no way to fool it, or distract it. It will consume ALL your thoughts. Now imagine having this overwhelming compulsion while surrounded by food everywhere you go, but you have to force yourself to not eat. Good fucking luck.

This is why 90+% of all diets fail.

Don't judge others until you've walked a mile in their shoes. (by then you'll be a mile away and they'll have no shoes )

Try cutting your calorie intake in half for a month. No cheating. Now imagine having to keep that up for the rest of your life. None of the skinny people will do this. They'd rather just judge others and think being skinny is all about will power... when it comes naturally to them and they've never had to go hungry while surrounded by food. Dumbasses.

 

[Blackjack200]

You mean like eating less and exercising more? Because I'm pretty sure they said that... Where was it? Hmmmm...

Saying that "the main culprits [are] a bad diet and lack of exercise" doesn't mean that the best advice for the overweight or the obese is to "eat less and exercise more". The scientists in the study recognize the complexity of the problems, and also understand that if telling people to eat less and exercise more hasn't worked in the past, there's not reason to expect that it will work in the future.


Shit... I know it's here somewhere but why do they have to dance around the issue and not just come out and say it?

And what do you think contributes to "lifestyle"? Do you think people are making a deliberate decision to not exercise and consume more calories than they burn?

I think "eating less and exercising more" actually works if the person actually does these things.

But the people who "eat less and exercise more" aren't overweight to begin with, so your statement is tautological and completely useless.

 

[MJinZ]

And what do you think contributes to "lifestyle"? Do you think people are making a deliberate decision to not exercise and consume more calories than they burn?



But the people who "eat less and exercise more" aren't overweight to begin with, so your statement is tautological and completely useless.

Nah, I'm overweight and I've been eating the same and exercising more and I"m losing weight.

Bam! ^_^

 

[ss284]

Try cutting your calorie intake in half for a month. No cheating. Now imagine having to keep that up for the rest of your life. None of the skinny people will do this. They'd rather just judge others and think being skinny is all about will power... when it comes naturally to them and they've never had to go hungry while surrounded by food. Dumbasses.

Difference being, an overweight person cutting half their calories from a 4000 calorie diet is a good thing. A skinny person cutting half their calories from a diet is an unhealthy and will lead to malnutrition.

 

[ss284]

But the people who "eat less and exercise more" aren't overweight to begin with, so your statement is tautological and completely useless.

Is "eating less and exercising more than they do now," better?

 

[Amused]

Difference being, an overweight person cutting half their calories from a 4000 calorie diet is a good thing. A skinny person cutting half their calories from a diet is an unhealthy and will lead to malnutrition.

While there is a difference in long term health, there is NO difference in how the body reacts. NONE.

Try it. Try starving yourself long term while constantly surrounded by food. It's about as easy as suffocationg yourself by holding your breath.

 

[Ns1]

While there is a difference in long term health, there is NO difference in how the body reacts. NONE.

Try it. Try starving yourself long term while constantly surrounded by food. It's about as easy as suffocationg yourself by holding your breath.

that is not the same thing at all. a skinny person doesn't need to diet whereas a fatass does.

i fucking LOVE to eat, but I also make sure I eat healthy/exercise a ton to make up for it.

I'll never have a 6 pack, but I'll never become a lardass either.

 

[lxskllr]

Gotta love when people who don't gain weight judge those who do.

I have been skinny all my life, (gained a bit in my 30s and started weight lifting) and never had to starve myself. But I gotta tell you this, if your body wants food, it will drive you CRAZY until it gets it. There's no way to fool it, or distract it. It will consume ALL your thoughts. Now imagine having this overwhelming compulsion while surrounded by food everywhere you go, but you have to force yourself to not eat. Good fucking luck.

This is why 90+% of all diets fail.

Don't judge others until you've walked a mile in their shoes. (by then you'll be a mile away and they'll have no shoes )

Try cutting your calorie intake in half for a month. No cheating. Now imagine having to keep that up for the rest of your life. None of the skinny people will do this. They'd rather just judge others and think being skinny is all about will power... when it comes naturally to them and they've never had to go hungry while surrounded by food. Dumbasses.

There's plenty of easy ways to reduce calories. With most people, they want to eat exactly what they want, in the quantity they want, and then wonder why they can't lose weight. Here's some easy steps...

Stop drinking soda

Make dessert an occasional thing, and cut the portion in half

Stop eating fast food

Stop eating like a pig. If you feel full when you've finished eating, you've eaten too much

Snack on carrots, celery, peppers, beef jerky... There's better choices than cookies.

Park in the farthest spot from the door and walk instead of driving around trying to find the closest spot

Take the stairs instead of the elevator

Stop using labor saving devices, and do things manually

...

There's a shitload of things people can do, but they're too lazy to do them. Everybody wants the effortless solution, but guess what; there isn't one. It takes effort, and willpower. Big pharma isn't gonna solve your problems for you.

 

[911paramedic]

Did you even read that article?

 

[Ns1]

There's a shitload of things people can do, but they're too lazy to do them. Everybody wants the effortless solution, but guess what; there isn't one. It takes effort, and willpower. Big pharma isn't gonna solve your problems for you.

:thumbsup:

 

[pontifex]

yes we know. we've heard all the fatty remarks before. stfu already.

 

[Blackjack200]

There's plenty of easy ways to reduce calories. With most people, they want to eat exactly what they want, in the quantity they want, and then wonder why they can't lose weight. Here's some easy steps...

Stop drinking soda

Make dessert an occasional thing, and cut the portion in half

Stop eating fast food

Stop eating like a pig. If you feel full when you've finished eating, you've eaten too much

Snack on carrots, celery, peppers, beef jerky... There's better choices than cookies.

Park in the farthest spot from the door and walk instead of driving around trying to find the closest spot

Take the stairs instead of the elevator

Stop using labor saving devices, and do things manually

...

There's a shitload of things people can do, but they're too lazy to do them. Everybody wants the effortless solution, but guess what; there isn't one. It takes effort, and willpower. Big pharma isn't gonna solve your problems for you.

Don't you smoke cigarettes? You're hardly in a position to be criticizing anyone.

 

[Ns1]

Don't you smoke cigarettes? You're hardly in a position to be criticizing anyone.

People who smoke cigarettes don't blame genes when they develop health problems.

 

[JM Aggie08]

You're more than likely obese, and these threads are a a front for how much you loathe yourself and your kind.

Hungry? Grab a Snickers. Fucker.

 

[Wyndru]

What about skinny people that don't exercise and eat shitty food? Shouldn't they be fat then?

I know quite a few people that fall into this category. I guess they are just magical.

 

[Acanthus]

this is just like people who say, "my gums bleed, it runs in my family" :doh:

you may have a predisposition to it, but you're only going to get gum disease because of improper plaque removal dumbass.

I brush and use listerine twice a day, never have any plaque and my gums bleed mildly every time i brush, even with a very soft brush.

Odd that you would say that.

 

[xanis]

Try cutting your calorie intake in half for a month. No cheating. Now imagine having to keep that up for the rest of your life. None of the skinny people will do this. They'd rather just judge others and think being skinny is all about will power... when it comes naturally to them and they've never had to go hungry while surrounded by food. Dumbasses.

Actually, losing weight and/or keeping it off IS all about willpower. Some people have strong wills and can do it on their own, while other people can't.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Meh, not to side with the fatties, but it IS about genes... I dont do any exercise whatsoever and I dont go out of my way to eat healthily either, yet Ive always been super skinny,,, My sister on the other hand has to be on constant diets to keep her weight at an acceptable level, how is this not genes?