Fast Food walkout - Nationwide

[Londo_Jowo]

When companies organize protests and bus in protesters what does it tell you?

Do you happen to have any proof of this happening? Or are you trolling incorruptible yet again?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Do you happen to have any proof of this happening? Or are you trolling incorruptible yet again?

Well without doing any digging to find American examples, I figured Incor would be aware of the Verizon thing that has been going on up here.

Meanwhile, Telus bused more than 500 of its employees to new Industry Minister James Moore's riding office in Port Moody Thursday to stage a protest against allowing Verizon into the Canadian market.

http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=8824347

Are you saying this does not happen in the US?

 

[Incorruptible]

Do you happen to have any proof of this happening? Or are you trolling incorruptible yet again?

He has an obsession with me and it's very disturbing.

Well without doing any digging to find American examples, I figured Incor would be aware of the Verizon thing that has been going on up here.


http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=8824347

Are you saying this does not happen in the US?

I just checked that article. What exactly is your point? That corporations will use the power of big government to keep out competition.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Well without doing any digging to find American examples, I figured Incor would be aware of the Verizon thing that has been going on up here.


http://www.vancouversun.com/touch/story.html?id=8824347

Are you saying this does not happen in the US?

You're the one making the claim, back it up.

 

[Orignal Earl]

He has an obsession with me and it's very disturbing.



I just checked that article. What exactly is your point? That corporations will use the power of big government to keep out competition.

I already know the result of posting anything to you.
In your mind the result will be you owning me big time

 

[ivwshane]

That's nice Earl however, the US minimum wage was never designed to be a "living wage" for a family of 4 and I seriously doubt it will be changed to be so any time soon if ever

Well it should be raised to support a family of four!! At least that's what everyone who for increasing the minimum wage has said! Well it's what everyone here on AT has said it should be raised to!


/s

Btw, how much would the hourly rate be to support a family of four?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Well it should be raised to support a family of four!! At least that's what everyone who for increasing the minimum wage has said! Well it's what everyone here on AT has said it should be raised to!


/s

Btw, how much would the hourly rate be to support a family of four?

Keep on dreaming as the minimum wage will never become a living wage.

 

[Tom]

Well it should be raised to support a family of four!! At least that's what everyone who for increasing the minimum wage has said! Well it's what everyone here on AT has said it should be raised to!


/s

Btw, how much would the hourly rate be to support a family of four?

As long as all four are working two jobs its sufficient now.

 

[Fern]

I see mentioned several times in this thread, that these jobs were never meant to be able to support some one
Wouldn't it be more honest to say that when these companies got started, a person could afford to buy a home and raise a family on the wages?

Fast food jobs?

No. They were intended to be 'starter jobs', or 2nd jobs for those who needed them. (McDonald's like many other chains, does offer a career path to management etc. Heck if you're good enough they'll help into ownership. But assembling burgers or hovering over a fry basket? No.)

I was around when FF first really got started. It hasn't changed much, if at all, and not much different than, say, busing tables. It's not now, nor has it ever been, a career to buy a house and raise and family with.

Fern

 

[Orignal Earl]

You're the one making the claim, back it up.

heh
All my google searches point to the new company in the US for hiring protesters.
I've tried several different searches and that's all that comes up
Well, that and Mining companies hiring para militants to intimidate protesters.
In Oz, Samsung hired protesters..I dunno, maybe it only occurs everywhere else outside of the US

 

[soundforbjt]

In 1963 the minimum wage was under $2. They raised it to $2.15. In todays money that was equal to $13/hr. I can see why they're bitching.

 

[TheSlamma]

I always love the part when Louis Anderson talks about when the big bucks start rollin in, in Coming to America.

It's a great joke cause hello people.. it's just simply not a career.

 

[Engineer]

Fast food jobs?

No. They were intended to be 'starter jobs', or 2nd jobs for those who needed

Now they have become a way of life for many as the better paying, wealth building jobs have been gutted from decades of offshoring. Sad when 2% of your workforce (entire US) is held by Walmart, McDonalds and Yum Brands (KFC, etc). Service...service....service....

Yea Buddy!

 

[Orignal Earl]

Fast food jobs?

No. They were intended to be 'starter jobs', or 2nd jobs for those who needed them. (McDonald's like many other chains, does offer a career path to management etc. Heck if you're good enough they'll help into ownership. But assembling burgers or hovering over a fry basket? No.)

I was around when FF first really got started. It hasn't changed much, if at all, and not much different than, say, busing tables. It's not now, nor has it ever been, a career to buy a house and raise and family with.

Fern

Most people did not want to flip burgers for a living.
There was a million other things to do at that time and make a lot more money
But if you did, back then you could afford to take care of yours and get a little house

 

[Fern]

In 1963 the minimum wage was under $2. They raised it to $2.15. In todays money that was equal to $13/hr. I can see why they're bitching.

I cannot confirm your data.

Look here: http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

1. Minimum wage in 1963 was $1.25.

2. It was never $2.15. It didn't get to $2.20-$2.30 until 1976.

3. Employees at McDonald's wouldn't have been covered in 1963. They only started being covered in 1966 and the min wage for them was $1.00. (See the footnotes, particularly footnote 3.)

Using this CPI calculator: http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1&year1=1966&year2=2013

One dollar in 1966 is worth $7.21 today (accounting for inflation.)

Fern

 

[Londo_Jowo]

In 1963 the minimum wage was under $2. They raised it to $2.15. In todays money that was equal to $13/hr. I can see why they're bitching.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

In 1963 the minimum wage was $1.25/hr, it was raised to $2/hr in 1974 when I got my first job* paying minimum wage upon turning 16.

*I worked in a local fast food restaurant from age 14 years, 9 months until I turned 16 for 32 - 36 hours a week.

 

[soundforbjt]

I cannot confirm your data.

Look here: http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

1. Minimum wage in 1963 was $1.25.

2. It was never $2.15. It didn't get to $2.20-$2.30 until 1976.

3. Employees at McDonald's wouldn't have been covered in 1963. They only started being covered in 1966 and the min wage for them was $1.00. (See the footnotes, particularly footnote 3.)

Using this CPI calculator: http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1&year1=1966&year2=2013

One dollar in 1966 is worth $7.21 today (accounting for inflation.)

Fern

That inflation calculator is way off. In 1963 gas averaged $.30/gal., So minimum wage job you could buy 4 gals and have change left over from your hourly pay of $1.25. Can't do that today.

 

[Engineer]

That inflation calculator is way off. In 1963 gas averaged $.30/gal., So minimum wage job you could buy 4 gals and have change left over from your hourly pay of $1.25. Can't do that today.

Not sure whether the calculator is right or not (seems fishy in that from 1993 to 2013 that we have had a total of 62% inflation - compounded), but you can't choose a single item and, based on that item alone, say that the calculator is incorrect (especially one like gas).

 

[BoberFett]

I cannot confirm your data.

Look here: http://www.dol.gov/whd/minwage/chart.htm

1. Minimum wage in 1963 was $1.25.

2. It was never $2.15. It didn't get to $2.20-$2.30 until 1976.

3. Employees at McDonald's wouldn't have been covered in 1963. They only started being covered in 1966 and the min wage for them was $1.00. (See the footnotes, particularly footnote 3.)

Using this CPI calculator: http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=1&year1=1966&year2=2013

One dollar in 1966 is worth $7.21 today (accounting for inflation.)

Fern

Facts are for sissies. Around here we use feelings to do math.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

That inflation calculator is way off. In 1963 gas averaged $.30/gal., So minimum wage job you could buy 4 gals and have change left over from your hourly pay of $1.25. Can't do that today.

I remember my father purchasing gas in the late 60's, early 70's for $0.15/gal to $0.19/gal.

 

[Engineer]

I remember my father purchasing gas in the late 60's, early 70's for $0.15/gal to $0.19/gal.

and I purchased gas in late 1998 for $0.49 per gallon. The 'good ole days'.

 

[cubby1223]

That inflation calculator is way off. In 1963 gas averaged $.30/gal., So minimum wage job you could buy 4 gals and have change left over from your hourly pay of $1.25. Can't do that today.

In other words, every purchasable item has to rise in equal proportions in order for minimum wage to be fair?

A Commodore 64 home computer in 1982 cost $600. Today you can buy a brand new computer for under $300.

By your logic and my "inflation" stat, minimum wage today ought to be around $1.68/hr (half the minimum wage of 1982).

 

[Londo_Jowo]

and I purchased gas in late 1998 for $0.49 per gallon. The 'good ole days'.

I can remember paying $0.35/gal for premium in 1976 when I had my 69 Roadrunner. Damn I wish still had that car, it would be worth $40k to $50k now as it had all matching numbers.

 

[buckshot24]

That inflation calculator is way off. In 1963 gas averaged $.30/gal., So minimum wage job you could buy 4 gals and have change left over from your hourly pay of $1.25. Can't do that today.

Are you going to admit that your prior statement was false?

 

[MarkLuvsCS]

In other words, every purchasable item has to rise in equal proportions in order for minimum wage to be fair?

A Commodore 64 home computer in 1982 cost $600. Today you can buy a brand new computer for under $300.

By your logic and my "inflation" stat, minimum wage today ought to be around $1.68/hr (half the minimum wage of 1982).

Perhaps it should just stick to averaging normal goods like food and such. Having luxury items kind of defeats the purpose of finding the average inflation of the general necessities of the public.