Fans raged over Wired's iPhone bash, exposed shortcomings

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Kaido

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
LOL, I have to be honest, and fess up that I'm an Apple hater with an iPhone (2G, unlocked, jailbroken, on Tmobile with a TZones data plan).

:thumbsup: :laugh:

LOL, am going to hackintosh a Dell Mini for daughter's BF this month

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ivan2
TBH that AT&T is the only reason keeping me from owning an iphone, that and tmobile, the other GSM operator...

But I don't think you guys have read TFA, it's not about apple haters attacking iphone, it's about the editors attacking 10% of an article in an attempt to denounce the whole thing. That and many other fanboys posting personal attacks in Wired to have it's comments shut down.

I don't really see apple haters attack the writer for praising the new iMacs and such. This to me has took a turn for the worse.

Did you read the Apple Insider article? Most of it dealt with stuff other than the out-of-context quotes.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: torpid
I for one am very glad for this. I hate group texts. They annoy the crap out of me.

:thumbsup: The asshole who had my phone number before me has a lot of asshole friends who send group texts. I think it's a good indicator of the quality of your friendship when you text someone to wish them a merry Christmas only to find out that they haven't had that phone number for months and never bothered to tell you.

Also, when I text you back to tell you that you have the wrong number, I don't need you to text me back and tell me who you were looking for. If I knew Mike, I'd have given you his number.

Also, Mike needs to pay his damn bills, I'm tired of getting calls from debt collectors.

Also, HSBC is a bunch of assholes for repeatedly calling me and telling me to wait for the next available CSR to talk about Mike's debts. You called me, assholes. I don't hold for you.

They can suck it with their £12.5Billion loss last year!

The iPhone is fun and easy to use but it lacks some SAVAGELY basic features...mms, copy and paste, forward of a txt not a function?! wtf?!!!! Thats completely bullshit...not being able to forward a contacts details in a txt?!!!! wtf?!!!! That really annoys e when I need to do so...

The battery life is pretty crappy also.

Koing

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Deeko
You obviously don't have much of a social life - when its friday night and you want to ask several different people what's going on, a text message to a group is the easiest way to do it.

Your friends obviously don't have much of a social life - if I got a text on friday night asking what's going on, it would be far too late to make plans with them generally. I like to plan ahead. Email works just fine for this. Especially if they can check it on their phone.

...what? Too late to make plans? "What bar are you going to?" "We're going to bar [x]" "Ok, see you there". Yea....that requires weeks of planning! Plus, most non-tech nerds do not compulsively check their email, so unless you're planning way in advance, that doesn't really work anyway. Not everyone has email on their phone.

Anyone that mocks a text message feature, while referencing a nearly identical but less widespread email feature as a solution, is, uh, missing the point. Either that or hates something for the sake of hating it.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Deeko
You obviously don't have much of a social life - when its friday night and you want to ask several different people what's going on, a text message to a group is the easiest way to do it.

Your friends obviously don't have much of a social life - if I got a text on friday night asking what's going on, it would be far too late to make plans with them generally. I like to plan ahead. Email works just fine for this. Especially if they can check it on their phone.

...what? Too late to make plans? "What bar are you going to?" "We're going to bar [x]" "Ok, see you there". Yea....that requires weeks of planning! Plus, most non-tech nerds do not compulsively check their email, so unless you're planning way in advance, that doesn't really work anyway. Not everyone has email on their phone.

Anyone that mocks a text message feature, while referencing a nearly identical but less widespread email feature as a solution, is, uh, missing the point. Either that or hates something for the sake of hating it.

You'll understand what torpid means when you're a few years older.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: mugs

You'll understand what torpid means when you're a few years older.

...so you're saying that old people that refuse new technology and have friday nights consisting of board games and MAYBE going wild and seeing an opera don't benefit from this, but others do?

You're right....totally makes sense to exclude that feature then. Great point!

 

[0roo0roo]

yea saw this when it was first posted....wired got pwned

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: mugs

You'll understand what torpid means when you're a few years older.

...so you're saying that old people that refuse new technology and have friday nights consisting of board games and MAYBE going wild and seeing an opera don't benefit from this, but others do?

You're right....totally makes sense to exclude that feature then. Great point!

No, I'm saying that you'll understand what torpid means when you're a few years older. I have no idea where you found that other stuff.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Deeko
...what? Too late to make plans? "What bar are you going to?" "We're going to bar [x]" "Ok, see you there". Yea....that requires weeks of planning!

I rest my case.

Anyone that mocks a text message feature, while referencing a nearly identical but less widespread email feature as a solution, is, uh, missing the point. Either that or hates something for the sake of hating it.

I mock it because it costs me money every time some dweeb sends me a mass text message that doesn't concern me (which is at least half of all mass texts). It doesn't cost me money every time I receive an email. If I did want it, I would just download iSMS or whatever the more recent equivalent is. So the point is completely moot anyway.

I also have no desire to hang out with someone who mass texts everyone asking what they are doing like some sort of sad, lonely vagabond. Nor do I appreciate the fact that they don't have any more desire to do something with me than 30 other people. Even if I ignore all of this, any given mass text has a 99% chance of resulting in being ignored if I reply anyway, because they are too busy responding to the 20 other people they mass texted.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Deeko
You're right....totally makes sense to exclude that feature then. Great point!

Considering all the other missing features, I think it's more likely just a matter of priorities at Apple.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: torpid
I'm an angry old man that resists technology changes that are first picked up by a younger generation

That's all it sounds like to me.

-I almost never receive the meaningless mass texts you're talking about. Maybe you need better friends. Its ironic that you comment on how you don't want to be friends with [insertdemographic], when [insertdemographic] is the type that would send you a text message. So...uh, why are you friends with them?
-Your entire argument seems based around not wanting to receive text messages as a whole, because you have an email plan instead. Refer back to my original reply to you - its the exact same feature, just not a feature YOU choose to use. What about the people that don't get email on their phone? You are whining about a feature that you actually do use and enjoy - just in a different protocol. Why shouldn't the phone support a feature that many DO use?
-Its not my problem that you are so antisocial that you have one group of friends, and its pretty sad that you don't want to associate with people that do. Again - your lack of a widespread social life should not be a reason for Apple to be lacking a feature common on other cell phones. Especially considering the iPhone is extremely popular among that demographic, Einstein.

No, I'm saying that you'll understand what torpid means when you're a few years older. I have no idea where you found that other stuff.

Right - it takes age and experience to call each individual person you want to talk to, when you have a quick message that is exactly the same for all of them. That doesn't take age and experience - that takes a desire to be inefficient. That takes a desire to be old fashioned. That takes a desire to resist change for the sake of it. Why don't we get rid of our cell phones completely? We could always just call them on our landline. In fact - phones are pretty impersonal. You really should just walk down the street and talk to them in person, you lazy bum!

You have no argument, so you're saying "you'll understand when you're older." If you actually DO have an argument, why don't you make it? To continue to refuse to back up your point is to admit that you don't have one.

Neither of you have a fault with phones supporting this feature, even though you are framing it as such. You really have two completely different complaints:
1) The carriers adopted an unfair model that charges you for incoming text messages. I agree, this isn't how it should be, and its not how it used to be. However, that is the fault of the carrier, not the phone itself.
2) Your friends suck ass and send you text messages that cost you money. I'm assuming they suck ass because you told them not to text you because it costs you money, right? If not, you're an idiot. If so, get new friends or suck it up and stop crying.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Deeko

No, I'm saying that you'll understand what torpid means when you're a few years older. I have no idea where you found that other stuff.

Right - it takes age and experience to call each individual person you want to talk to, when you have a quick message that is exactly the same for all of them. That doesn't take age and experience - that takes a desire to be inefficient. That takes a desire to be old fashioned. That takes a desire to resist change for the sake of it. Why don't we get rid of our cell phones completely? We could always just call them on our landline. In fact - phones are pretty impersonal. You really should just walk down the street and talk to them in person, you lazy bum!

You have no argument, so you're saying "you'll understand when you're older." If you actually DO have an argument, why don't you make it? To continue to refuse to back up your point is to admit that you don't have one.

Neither of you have a fault with phones supporting this feature, even though you are framing it as such. You really have two completely different complaints:
1) The carriers adopted an unfair model that charges you for incoming text messages. I agree, this isn't how it should be, and its not how it used to be. However, that is the fault of the carrier, not the phone itself.
2) Your friends suck ass and send you text messages that cost you money. I'm assuming they suck ass because you told them not to text you because it costs you money, right? If not, you're an idiot. If so, get new friends or suck it up and stop crying.

I'm not arguing anything. I wasn't even commenting on the features of the iPhone. I was commenting on the obvious lifestyle differences between you and torpid. You'll understand in a few years when your friends start getting married, having kids, and you're alone at the bar.

The only comment I've made about group texts in this thread is that it's annoying to be on the receiving end of them when they're intended for someone else.

FWIW the iPhone can send texts to multiple people as far as I can tell. You can't create named lists of multiple people, but apparently there is an app that does that. Problem solved.

 

[Deeko]

So you basically agreed with what I said earlier - that it appeals to a large demographic, and there is nothing inherently wrong with the feature.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Biggest disadvantage to the iPhone is other iPhone users. This thread is proof.

 

[JJ650]

Originally posted by: Deeko
So you basically agreed with what I said earlier - that it appeals to a large demographic, and there is nothing inherently wrong with the feature.

FFS man. Let it rest. You use it, others don't. Not using it has no bearing on the quality of your friends. Just a difference in your chosen method of reaching out to others.
Interesting feature? Yes. Used/wanted by all? No.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: Deeko
So you basically agreed with what I said earlier - that it appeals to a large demographic, and there is nothing inherently wrong with the feature.

FFS man. Let it rest. You use it, others don't. Not using it has no bearing on the quality of your friends. Just a difference in your chosen method of reaching out to others.
Interesting feature? Yes. Used/wanted by all? No.

That's my point slugger. Thank you for aiding me in my argument.

 

[SpanishFry]

Other missing feature of the iPhone: Work.

My previous Palms and current Blackberry Bold all Sync to our corporate mail server for email, contacts, calendar, todo, etc.

iPhone would be cool if all I had to do was "dick around" <- stolen joke from the iWheel Spoof video.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: SpanishFry
Other missing feature of the iPhone: Work.

My previous Palms and current Blackberry Bold all Sync to our corporate mail server for email, contacts, calendar, todo, etc.

iPhone would be cool if all I had to do was "dick around" <- stolen joke from the iWheel Spoof video.

exchange sync is on the iphone...

 

[DayLaPaul]

Wow an article about an article about an article. Now that's news!

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: Deeko
So you basically agreed with what I said earlier - that it appeals to a large demographic, and there is nothing inherently wrong with the feature.

FFS man. Let it rest. You use it, others don't. Not using it has no bearing on the quality of your friends. Just a difference in your chosen method of reaching out to others.
Interesting feature? Yes. Used/wanted by all? No.

That's my point slugger. Thank you for aiding me in my argument.

Your point was that people who don't appreciate the feature lack a social life. Which is basically the opposite of what he wrote.

My initial reply was to mock you for making such a moronic statement. Apparently you missed that in your long diatribe where you tried to defend your position by then proceeding to attack my social life (the one which involves so many friends I actually have to plan days in advance).

 

[TheNinja]

Why is it that iPhone users are the only ones who really can't wait to show you their new app, or haul out their phone non-stop and browse on it and then try to show you things? Is the $299 price tag really that impressive?

Ya, I get it, you have an iPhone and you like it....good for you. A lot of people have them, it's not like you just discovered a cure for cancer and have to show it off, or that you just paid $10k for a diamond plated phone.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
Why is it that iPhone users are the only ones who really can't wait to show you their new app, or haul out their phone non-stop and browse on it and then try to show you things? Is the $299 price tag really that impressive?

Ya, I get it, you have an iPhone and you like it....good for you. A lot of people have them, it's not like you just discovered a cure for cancer and have to show it off, or that you just paid $10k for a diamond plated phone.

It's because we're better than you and more creative

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: JJ650

Originally posted by: Deeko
So you basically agreed with what I said earlier - that it appeals to a large demographic, and there is nothing inherently wrong with the feature.

FFS man. Let it rest. You use it, others don't. Not using it has no bearing on the quality of your friends. Just a difference in your chosen method of reaching out to others.
Interesting feature? Yes. Used/wanted by all? No.

That's my point slugger. Thank you for aiding me in my argument.

Your point was that people who don't appreciate the feature lack a social life. Which is basically the opposite of what he wrote.

My initial reply was to mock you for making such a moronic statement. Apparently you missed that in your long diatribe where you tried to defend your position by then proceeding to attack my social life (the one which involves so many friends I actually have to plan days in advance).

Not at all, sport. Try again. Certain forum members attacked the feature - quite clearly, they were wrong in every way. However, since they were in attack mode, I shot them down swiftly and completely - and insulted them in the process. Eye for an eye, kid.

Don't worry - reading comprehension comes with time. Keep at it, you'll get there!

 

[ivan2]

Originally posted by: Deeko

Not at all, sport. Try again. Certain forum members attacked the feature - quite clearly, they were wrong in every way. However, since they were in attack mode, I shot them down swiftly and completely - and insulted them in the process. Eye for an eye, kid.

Don't worry - reading comprehension comes with time. Keep at it, you'll get there!

that's what im talking about, attack the iphone and we will attack you.

 

[torpid]

So you are claiming that you have some level of reading comprehension beyond me, and yet you are the one who posted the below. Note that if you actually had even modest reading skills, you would have noticed that you were responding to the wrong post.

Secondly, your "point" was complete gibberish because most people with "a social life" do not wait until friday night to make plans for fiday night. Generally, it would be people who have no social life who haven't figured out what they are going to do with themselves until friday night and are forced to send a desperate plea to all of their friends asking them if they are going to a bar to binge drink.

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: effowe
I own and love my iPhone, but the Wired article brought up some good points. They are years ahead of us with certain cell phone aspects, and things they care about just aren't on the iPhone. It has a shitty camera, no MMS, no tv tuner (who knew this was popular..?) and it's bulky for the features it does offer. Apple zealots think the company can do no wrong, I know and accept the shortfalls of the iPhone because it does so many other things so much better. To each their own, I guess.

Haha, even my cheapo Pearl from Sprint added MMS with the latest update.

You obviously don't have much of a social life - when its friday night and you want to ask several different people what's going on, a text message to a group is the easiest way to do it.