FALSE: California to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically

[brycejones]

I keep marveling at the fact that you are apparently 60-something. Aren’t you embarrassed to act this way?

Amazing isn't it.

 

[brycejones]

Isn't that essentially tajjy's default mode?

Pretty much, he lies, he post shitty stories from shitty sources, posts articles that say the opposite of what he says they do, etc, etc and wants to throw hand grenades into tunnels blindly regardless of who is in them including children.

What a loser.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Pretty much, he lies, he post shitty stories from shitty sources, posts articles that say the opposite of what he says they do, etc, etc and wants to throw hand grenades into tunnels blindly regardless of who is in them including children.

What a loser.

You're one of my best little bitches and I like it when you're feisty.

 

[fskimospy]

You're one of my best little bitches and I like it when you're feisty.

Gross, dude. Grow up.

 

[brycejones]

You're one of my best little bitches and I like it when you're feisty.

Such an adult. When are you going to act like an honorable person and apologize for starting this thread?

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Such an adult. When are you going to act like an honorable person and apologize for starting this thread?

Sit up and beg, i like it.

Until and unless there is new information i can see no reason to change it.

 

[brycejones]

I think tajbot is one of those who just needs to go on ignore.

No 60 year old man actually posts like this, so the family, everything is just BS. Its some child still living in mom's basement working as a failed fry cook.

 

[umbrella39]

Yep, he is way off script the past few days. He's gone rogue.

Every once in a while you go do the laundry and FFS if one of your socks that went in doesn't come back...

Years later you are moving and when you pull the dryer out you find that sock... dusty, covered in God knows what lint and I'll be damned if the cat didn't get back there somehow and shit on it...

That's the Taj account.

 

[BoomerD]

Not that I expect Tovarich Taj to believe it...

https://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Not that I expect Tovarich Taj to believe it...

https://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

It's the 2015 law that snopes talks about, it's a totally separate thing. The WND opinion piece is about a successful lawsuit filed by different organizations
"Other plaintiffs in the lawsuit include the ACCE Institute, California Common Cause and the National Council of La Raza."
This change is mentioned in a LA Times article:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/ess...-become-voters-when-1516222595-htmlstory.html

What WND claims is that with these changes to the motor voting law that used to require people to "opt in" to register to vote it now becomes an "opt out" that automatically registers people to vote. Unless new regulations or laws are passed WND claims that this will result in illegal immigrants automatically being registered.

It was news & politics so I made a thread.

 

[JSt0rm]

Not that I expect Tovarich Taj to believe it...

https://www.snopes.com/california-motor-voter-act/

lol.

 

[JSt0rm]

What WND claims is that with these changes to the motor voting law that used to require people to "opt in" to register to vote it now becomes an "opt out" that automatically registers people to vote. Unless new regulations or laws are passed WND claims that this will result in illegal immigrants automatically being registered.

It was news & politics so I made a thread.

they claim wrong. As was pointed out to you many times.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

they claim wrong. As was pointed out to you many times.

Bullshit, not a single person has made any statement about the subject except the typical "you lie" "you are bad and dumb" "LOL, derp,derp,derp"

Not a single person bothered to address the articles or the lawsuit. Just the same lefty spew.

 

[JSt0rm]

Ive already addressed it in like my second post. Go read.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Ive already addressed it in like my second post. Go read.

Yes, but no link, no reference to where you got the information and nothing to back it up. Seriously you quoted, but then provided no link for the quotes.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Bullshit, not a single person has made any statement about the subject except the typical "you lie" "you are bad and dumb" "LOL, derp,derp,derp"

Not a single person bothered to address the articles or the lawsuit. Just the same lefty spew.

Driver's License Restrictions

The California driver's license under AB-60 is meant to be used for driving purposes only. It CANNOT be used as proof of identification in any way. The license will carry a distinguishing mark indicating that it is an AB-60 license, as well as a message explaining that it is a driving-only license.

Additionally, you may NOT use your CA driver's license to operate any vehicle that is unregistered or uninsured. Whether the car you're driving is your own, or someone else's, it must have a valid registration and California car insurance.

https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

[JSt0rm]

Yes, but no link, no reference to where you got the information and nothing to back it up. Seriously you quoted, but then provided no link for the quotes.

"Starting this April, the more than 1 million Californians who renew their driver’s licenses by mail each year will be able to register to vote using one form under the terms of a new settlement agreement."

tell me where that quote is from.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Sorry, but after your 8th or 9th "hail trump" you got put on ignore. It was boring. I'll let you know if it comes off.

Driver's License Restrictions

The California driver's license under AB-60 is meant to be used for driving purposes only. It CANNOT be used as proof of identification in any way. The license will carry a distinguishing mark indicating that it is an AB-60 license, as well as a message explaining that it is a driving-only license.

Additionally, you may NOT use your CA driver's license to operate any vehicle that is unregistered or uninsured. Whether the car you're driving is your own, or someone else's, it must have a valid registration and California car insurance.

https://www.dmv.org/ca-california/ab-60-drivers-license.php

 

[imported_tajmahal]

"Starting this April, the more than 1 million Californians who renew their driver’s licenses by mail each year will be able to register to vote using one form under the terms of a new settlement agreement."

tell me where that quote is from.

That is from the courthouse news article .

 

[imported_tajmahal]

"Starting this April, the more than 1 million Californians who renew their driver’s licenses by mail each year will be able to register to vote using one form under the terms of a new settlement agreement."

tell me where that quote is from.

Got it, you were quoting from an old Mercury-news Dec. 28th, 2016 article weren't you?

 

[BoomerD]

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/frequently-asked-questions/

Who can register to vote?
To register to vote in California, you must be:

• A United States citizen and a resident of California,
• 18 years old or older on Election Day,
• Not currently in state or federal prison or on parole for the conviction of a felony (for more information, please see Voting Rights: Persons with a Criminal History), and
• Not prohibited from voting by a court because of mental incompetency (for more information, please see Voting Rights: Persons Subject to Conservatorship).

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1407

SECTION 1.
Section 2262 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2262.
(a) By January 1, 2020, the The Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles shall establish the California New Motor Voter Program for the purpose of increasing opportunities for voter registration by any person who is qualified to be a voter under Section 2 of Article II of the California Constitution.
(b) This chapter shall not be construed as requiring the Department of Motor Vehicles to determine eligibility for voter registration and voting. The Secretary of State is solely responsible for determining eligibility for voter registration, voter preregistration, and voting.


SEC. 2.
Section 2263 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2263.
(a) The Department of Motor Vehicles, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall establish a schedule and method for the department to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records specified in this section.
(b) (1) The department shall provide to the Secretary of State, in a manner and method to be determined by the department in consultation with the Secretary of State, the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:
(A) Name.
(B) Date of birth.
(C) Either or both of the following, as contained in the department’s records:
(i) Residence address.
(ii) Mailing address.
(D) Digitized signature, as described in Section 12950.5 of the Vehicle Code.
(E) Telephone number, if available.
(F) Email address, if available.
(G) Language preference.
(H) Political party preference.
(I) Whether the person chooses to become a permanent vote by mail voter.
(J) Whether the person affirmatively declined to become registered or preregistered to vote during a transaction with the department.
(K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101 and, as applicable, the preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.
(L) Other information specified in regulations implementing this chapter.
(2) (A) The department may provide the records described in paragraph (1) to the Secretary of State before the Secretary of State certifies that all of the conditions set forth in subdivision (e) of this section have been satisfied. Records provided pursuant to this paragraph shall only be used for purposes of outreach and education to eligible voters conducted by the Secretary of State.
(B) The Secretary shall provide materials created for purposes of outreach and education as described in this paragraph in languages other than English, as required by the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 10503).
(c) The Secretary of State shall not sell, transfer, or allow any third party access to the information acquired from the Department of Motor Vehicles pursuant to this chapter without approval of the department, except as permitted by this chapter and Section 2194.
(d) The department shall not electronically provide records of a person who applies for or is issued a driver’s license pursuant to Section 12801.9 of the Vehicle Code because he or she is unable to submit satisfactory proof that his or her presence in the United States is authorized under federal law.
(e) The Department of Motor Vehicles shall commence implementation of this section no later than one year after the Secretary of State certifies all of the following:
(1) The State has a statewide voter registration database that complies with the requirements of the federal Help America Vote Act of 2002 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 20901 et seq.).
(2) The Legislature has appropriated the funds necessary for the Secretary of State and the Department of Motor Vehicles to implement and maintain the California New Motor Voter Program.
(3) The regulations required by Section 2270 have been adopted.
(f) The Department of Motor Vehicles shall not electronically provide records pursuant to this section that contain a home address designated as confidential pursuant to Section 1808.2, 1808.4, or 1808.6 of the Vehicle Code.


SEC. 3.
Section 2265 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2265.
(a) The records of a person designated in paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 2263 shall constitute a completed affidavit of registration and the Secretary of State shall register the person to vote, or, as applicable, preregister the person to vote, unless any of the following conditions is satisfied:
(1) The person’s records, as described in Section 2263, reflect that he or she affirmatively declined to become registered or preregistered to vote during a transaction with the Department of Motor Vehicles.
(2) The person’s records, as described in Section 2263, do not reflect that he or she has attested to meeting all voter eligibility requirements specified in Section 2101 or, as applicable, all preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.
(3) The Secretary of State determines that the person is ineligible to vote or, as applicable, will be ineligible to vote when he or she reaches 18 years of age.
(b) If a person who is registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter does not provide a party preference, his or her party preference shall be designated as “Unknown” on a voter registration index under Article 5 (commencing with Section 2180) 2183) of Chapter 2, and he or she shall otherwise be treated as a “No Party Preference” voter.
(c) If the Secretary of State receives from the Department of Motor Vehicles pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 2263 the records of a person who is currently registered to vote, the Secretary of State shall use the information in the records to update the voter’s registration information. If the Secretary of State does not receive information for the voter pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision (b) of Section 2263 for which space is provided on the affidavit of registration, but that information was provided in the voter’s previous affidavit of registration, the information from the voter’s previous affidavit of registration shall remain part of the voter’s record.


SEC. 4.
Section 2266 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2266.
A person registered or preregistered to vote under this chapter may cancel his or her voter registration or preregistration at any time by any method available to any other registered or preregistered voter.


SEC. 5.
Section 2267 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2267.
This chapter does not affect the confidentiality of a person’s voter registration or preregistration information, which remains confidential pursuant to Section 2194 of this code and Section 6254.4 of the Government Code and for all of the following persons:
(a) A victim of domestic violence, sexual assault, or stalking pursuant to Section 2166.5.
(b) A reproductive health care service provider, employee, volunteer, or patient pursuant to Section 2166.5.
(c) A public safety officer pursuant to Section 2166.7.
(d) A person with a life-threatening circumstance upon court order pursuant to Section 2166.


SEC. 6.
Section 2268 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2268.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter in the absence of a violation by that person of Section 18100, that person’s registration or preregistration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.


SEC. 7.
Section 2269 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2269.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter and votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration or preregistration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and shall not be guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote pursuant to Section 18560, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.


SEC. 8.
Section 2270 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2270.
The Secretary of State shall adopt regulations to implement this chapter, including regulations addressing both of the following:
(a) A process for canceling the registration or preregistration of a person who is ineligible to vote, but became registered or preregistered under the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of any violation by that person of Section 18100.
(b) An education and outreach campaign informing voters about the California New Motor Voter Program that the Secretary of State will conduct to implement this chapter. The Secretary of State may use any public and private funds available for this and shall provide materials created for this outreach and education campaign in languages other than English, as required by the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965 (52 U.S.C. Sec. 10503).

THAT'S the California Law...NOTHING says an illegal immigrant will automatically be registered to vote due to the motor voter law. It DOES say that an illegal immigrant or other person not legally entitled to vote could fraudulently register to vote...but that can happen at any "Register Here to Vote" booth, table, or other event. No "Proof of legal residence" is required to fill out the form and have it submitted.

in order to get a California driver's license, proof of identity is required. For illegal immigrants, only certain documents are accepted...and those very documents will notify the Secretary of State that the driver is not a legal citizen entitled to vote.

Personally, I've always been against letting the illegals have drivers licenses. The liberals claim that if they're licensed, they will become better, safer drivers and will purchase insurance. BULLSHIT. Experience from living in CA for 25 years in the Central Valley where illegal immigrants are rampant showed me that they aren't interested in following the laws of this country or of CA. If they were...they wouldn't be here illegally...right? The only possible benefit of letting the illegal immigrants have drivers licenses (IMO) is that it identifies them...for law enforcement, to PROVE who they are at hospitals, for employment, and for immigration to round them up.

 

[dawp]

he wont believe you as it doesn't confirm what he believes to be true..

from what I've seen, he never adjusts what he believes when he gets new information if it doesn't reinforce what he thinks.
it's quite fun to watch him flail about.

 

[fskimospy]

Again, this nonsense has been debunked on here at least once before. It’s amazing how conservatives never learn. They seem to WANT to be duped.

As I’ve said many times nobody has as much contempt for the intelligence of conservatives as conservative media does. They practically rub their readers’ noses in how dumb they think they are.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Of course that's what the California Law says, it can say nothing else and it was never in question.

http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/frequently-asked-questions/



https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB1407



THAT'S the California Law...NOTHING says an illegal immigrant will automatically be registered to vote due to the motor voter law. It DOES say that an illegal immigrant or other person not legally entitled to vote could fraudulently register to vote...but that can happen at any "Register Here to Vote" booth, table, or other event. No "Proof of legal residence" is required to fill out the form and have it submitted.

in order to get a California driver's license, proof of identity is required. For illegal immigrants, only certain documents are accepted...and those very documents will notify the Secretary of State that the driver is not a legal citizen entitled to vote.

Personally, I've always been against letting the illegals have drivers licenses. The liberals claim that if they're licensed, they will become better, safer drivers and will purchase insurance. BULLSHIT. Experience from living in CA for 25 years in the Central Valley where illegal immigrants are rampant showed me that they aren't interested in following the laws of this country or of CA. If they were...they wouldn't be here illegally...right? The only possible benefit of letting the illegal immigrants have drivers licenses (IMO) is that it identifies them...for law enforcement, to PROVE who they are at hospitals, for employment, and for immigration to round them up.

 

[zinfamous]

Fear + Fear + Fear is a great tactic when you know you can't govern. Feed the plebs like tajjy nonsense and blame the browns because you know the binary minds of their supporters will swarm to that like flies on shit. Makes it easier to continue on shoveling their money away from them and towards the corporatist owners of the party.

Blame the browns. Reap the profits. The only accurate GOP motto.