Fallout 4 - set in Boston!

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werepossum

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I'll buy it Day One IF it's available for PC and IF it has the first person option, although I may not play it until it is patched to be more or less stable. The apparent voiced player has me worried. Not much point in that for an FPS, although it doesn't bother me either way. But combined with the constant push back amongst the console kiddies' parents to not produce "murder primers" (AKA FPS) and the apparent desire among most if not all game designers to be movie producers rather than game designers, I worry when I see an allusion to voiced player dialog.
 

KeithTalent

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Is that because you sent me your copy a few years ago?

Damn, that might be it. :hmm:

you need to force it to use no more than 2 cores or something like that, google it -- there's an ini edit that will fix most of the crashes (did for me -- had a crash on just the intro screen and after the ini edit i've had mebbe 1 or 2 crashes in 100+ hrs?)

Ok, I will have to try that. I still own it on Steam, but neither the Steam version nor the disc version ever worked for me. It would get to the opening sequence then crash every time.

KT
 

CrackRabbit

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I'll buy it Day One IF it's available for PC and IF it has the first person option, although I may not play it until it is patched to be more or less stable. The apparent voiced player has me worried. Not much point in that for an FPS, although it doesn't bother me either way. But combined with the constant push back amongst the console kiddies' parents to not produce "murder primers" (AKA FPS) and the apparent desire among most if not all game designers to be movie producers rather than game designers, I worry when I see an allusion to voiced player dialog.

The voice thing isn't THAT big of a deal anymore, and it can be done correctly ala Mass Effect.
I'm certainly interested in Fallout 4, but I'm afraid it having the same problems that 3 and Skyrim had, huge world with not enough personality.
The first two Fallout games and to a lesser degree New Vegas had a ton of off color humor; 3 just seemed bland in comparison.
 

CottonRabbit

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The voice thing isn't THAT big of a deal anymore, and it can be done correctly ala Mass Effect.
I'm certainly interested in Fallout 4, but I'm afraid it having the same problems that 3 and Skyrim had, huge world with not enough personality.
The first two Fallout games and to a lesser degree New Vegas had a ton of off color humor; 3 just seemed bland in comparison.

Probably won't happen, but I wish Obsidian would make FO4. If Bethesda makes it, it'll be bland just like FO3.
 

shortylickens

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Morrowind is the last great game Bethesda made.

I loved Morrowind best but have still managed to enjoy both Fallouts and Skyrim and Oblivion.


Also, I was hoping they would make the next one in Colorado, defeating the Legion or watching them grow.
 

shortylickens

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Probably won't happen, but I wish Obsidian would make FO4. If Bethesda makes it, it'll be bland just like FO3.

Yeah I'm sorry to say it but the best thing about New Vegas was that it wasnt a 100 percent Bethesda project. They had the force of a company that knows how to do excellent RPG's.
 

blastingcap

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Bethesda needs to get its act together on dual-wielding non-identical weapons; it's so horribly broken on Skyrim that even mods can't fully fix it.
 

mizzou

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I'll buy it Day One IF it's available for PC and IF it has the first person option, although I may not play it until it is patched to be more or less stable. The apparent voiced player has me worried. Not much point in that for an FPS, although it doesn't bother me either way. But combined with the constant push back amongst the console kiddies' parents to not produce "murder primers" (AKA FPS) and the apparent desire among most if not all game designers to be movie producers rather than game designers, I worry when I see an allusion to voiced player dialog.

duke nukem 3d was good with voice in "moderation"


SHAKE IT BABY!
 

SMOGZINN

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They've actually quite improved their game issues with Skyrim over previous titles.

What are you talking about? On release Skyrim was filled with bugs. They had mammoths falling from the sky, and the patch to fix that made dragons fly backwards. The Windows version would crash to the desktop regularly. There was game ending bugs. My SO, with more then 200 hours in Skyrim hit one that was not fixed until the Hearthstone DLC.

I'll probably wait until their 14th patch or so, combined with the community's unofficial one as well before touching it... but I'll keep an eye on it.

I agree, and by then you might as well just wait a few more weeks for the GOTY edition that will include the Armored Dog and both the Doric and Ionic House Column DLCs that would other wise be $25 each.
 

pong lenis

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FO3 was not bland. It was one of the best games ever made.

Don't bother replying to him. I've read those kinds of comments before, and have no doubt that people who write them have never played Fallout 3.
These people will read some crap on the internet, like "Fallout 3 has bad writing and no humor" and they copy/paste it everywhere without a second thought. Fallacious arguments become truth simply because they're popular.
 

Qbah

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Preordering the moment it hits Steam :D I predict Steam servers dying a painful death on that day :D

I loved all Fallout games (1,2, Tactics, 3, NV) - I remember finding the original Power Armor in F3... that was so awesome!

I also loved Oblivion and (even more) Skyrim.

I spent well over a thousand hours in F3, FNV, Oblivion and Skyrim alone (over 500 just in Skyrim :awe:). I love those worlds! Can't wait to spend even more in the new Fallout :)
 

Borealis7

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this is what i meant. we already had the "FO3 sux, NV rules. -- No! NV sux! FO3 rules" argument in the previous thread.
 

mmntech

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you need to force it to use no more than 2 cores or something like that, google it -- there's an ini edit that will fix most of the crashes (did for me -- had a crash on just the intro screen and after the ini edit i've had mebbe 1 or 2 crashes in 100+ hrs?)

Yeah, it's a well known issue with the Gamebryo engine.

They'll probably use the same engine (Creation Engine) from Skyrim for Fallout 4. Which will produce a gorgeous world filled with shiny happy people. Why is everything so shiny in Skyrim anyway. Is that where all the lemon pledge went?

While Bethesda is really good at creating environments, they definitely need to work on their NPCs. Hire a decent art team that knows how to make human characters, and invest in some decent mocap so they're not so wooden.

Boston/The Commonwealth might be a cool setting. It was referenced quite a few times in Fallout 3 so I'm not surprised. Too bad nobody has the stomach for a post apocalyptic New York anymore.
 

werepossum

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duke nukem 3d was good with voice in "moderation"


SHAKE IT BABY!

True. I love the original Duke Nukem. The latest . . . Well, I'll do it occasionally it but I still need to see other games.

My fear is entirely that the voiced player indicates that they will nuke the first player option. I have no objection to voicing the player otherwise.
 

CottonRabbit

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Don't bother replying to him. I've read those kinds of comments before, and have no doubt that people who write them have never played Fallout 3.
These people will read some crap on the internet, like "Fallout 3 has bad writing and no humor" and they copy/paste it everywhere without a second thought. Fallacious arguments become truth simply because they're popular.

Fallout 1, 2 and NV were made by the people at Obsidian (former Black Isle). After you play those and compare it to 3, the difference should be obvious. 3 was not a bad game, but it wasn't Fallout.
 

werepossum

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The voice thing isn't THAT big of a deal anymore, and it can be done correctly ala Mass Effect.
I'm certainly interested in Fallout 4, but I'm afraid it having the same problems that 3 and Skyrim had, huge world with not enough personality.
The first two Fallout games and to a lesser degree New Vegas had a ton of off color humor; 3 just seemed bland in comparison.
Isn't Mass Effect third person only?

I thought the acting and writing were much better in FNV than in F3, with the notable exception of Three Dog, but F3 had its charm as well. It was more accomodating at low level and I loved the ruined buildings, just wish they had been explorable. FNV seemed more linear starting out, although much less linear later. Never even got started on F1 and F2 as they are woefully dated (and third person) after F3.
 

werepossum

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Fallout 1, 2 and NV were made by the people at Obsidian (former Black Isle). After you play those and compare it to 3, the difference should be obvious. 3 was not a bad game, but it wasn't Fallout.

I've more often seen the "wasn't Fallout" complaint about New Vegas, because it wasn't post apacolyptic enough.
 

zinfamous

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I've more often seen the "wasn't Fallout" complaint about New Vegas, because it wasn't post apacolyptic enough.

:confused:

how is that even possible? what does someone use to try and qualify it as not being post-apocalyptic to any degree?

...I'm going to go out on a limb and think their are mouth-breathing dingleberries out there that probably can't understand that you very much can have old western music, and certainly western themes, in post-apocalyptic settings.

funny thing--"post apocalytipc" is the western genre at its core. It doesn't really exist without typical western themes.

(I mention this because I've heard complaints about "EWW! Country Music!" in NV. This, from people that clearly have no fucking clue what they are getting into; so I assume it's similar to anyone that doesn't know anything about either genre.)
 

Imp

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Loved everything about FO: NV. Just hope they "fix" the animations by using a different engine this time around. Animations just felt so unnatural in FO3, FO:NV, and Oblivion.