Fallout 4 CPU scaling

[cbn]

So no one here have fallout4 but everyone discus it or why you dont input results can i ask?
like rally its best to test it and we all can see and compare results in very CPU bottleneck scene.

but instead you all just put here one or another graphs:\
Or its too hard load save game take screenshot and put here results?

I don't own the game yet, but I am wondering how other gameplay compares to this scene.

For example, do random action scenes stress the CPU more the area you have selected? If so, how much more? ( I know its a tough question)

Maybe someone could play the game at 720p ultra and see how the minimum frame drops compared to your scene (at the same 720p ultra).

EDIT: So just to clarify, this would end up being the delta from that standardized scene to whatever ends being the most demanding moment during random gameplay.

 

[Erenhardt]

Performance delta between amd and nvidia is obvious thanks to gimpworks effect.

Some time ago nvidia was accused of rendering tessellated invisible ocean in one game. Guess what, they don't hide with it anymore. Why would they if they have 80% marketshare? They are rendering tessellated air now and call it a premium feature competitor sux at.

How would you explain the pictures above? Something fishy... and fish lives in ocean.

Oh, and loosen your belt. Those personal attacks may finally exceed the leeway you got.

 

[Head1985]

If you move the mouse a bit to the side, fps increases by a lot. There is no difference on screen with the amount of object etc. Benchmarking a buged code is pointless.

So you saying you have bad performance and dont want post results ok..

I was hoping this forum can provide some data....

Btw if you have crap performance you now know that many websites just dont know how to test cpus...

Point of testing CPU is find CPU bottleneck scene and test cpu in it.No point testing cpu in scene where cpus can pull 100fps..

 

[frozentundra123456]

Does the whining about gameworks have to seep into the cpu thread too? Seriously, isnt there enough of that in the VC&G forum?

 

[Phynaz]

Say what?! Then so is haswell and ivy. I guess those two with dual channel 1600mhz memory would be slower than his fx.:thumbsup:

You don't seem to realize you are posting a graphic showing a dual core i3 beating an octacore FX.

 

[TheELF]

So you saying you have bad performance and dont want post results ok..

I was hoping this forum can provide some data....

Btw if you have crap performance you now know that many websites just dont know how to test cpus...

Point of testing CPU is find CPU bottleneck scene and test cpu in it.No point testing cpu in scene where cpus can pull 100fps..

The scene in your save has like 25000 draw calls, that's not a cpu bottleneck Dx11 can't handle so many draw calls,remember earlier in the year? all the benchmarks (well all the two of them, starswarm/3dmark) that showed how many more draw calls dx12 is going to be able to make?
Disregard,I had FOV at 100 for both world and person.
Still it is pretty much the same as at the entrance to diamond city.

 

[Head1985]

if dx11 cant handle it why i have there 70fps?

 

[Face2Face]

well i dont have data from haswell-e yet.I hope someone with haswell-e can test it.AMD drivers have bad cpu overhead so they have very bad results other results are with Nv GPU.

Results so far:
NV cards
6700k 4.5Ghz 3000DDR4 cl14 70fps
6700k 3Ghz 3000DDR4 cl14 54fps
Xeon 6core sandy bridge 4.3ghz quad channel DDR3 1600cl9 52fps
4670k 4,7Ghz 2400DDR3 cl11 52fps
2600K 4.5Ghz 1600DDR3 cl9 49fps
3570k 4.2Ghz 1600DDR3 cl9 43fps

AMD cards
4930K 4.4Ghz quad channel 2400DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 33.3Fps
I7 4820K 4,2Ghz quad channel DDR3 1866 + r9 290 28fps
AMD FX 8370E 4,5GHz 1600DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 22fps

Here are my results @ 1080p Ultra settings with TXAA and 16AF

4.8 GHz 3570K with 1866MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24

GTX 780 @ 1280/1641

CPU usage across all 4 cores isn't that high...

 

[cbn]

Here are my results @ 1080p Ultra settings with TXAA and 16AF

4.8 GHz 3570K with 1866MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24

GTX 780 @ 1280/1641

CPU usage across all 4 cores isn't that high...

How does free form gameplay compare on CPU usage?

 

[Erenhardt]

You don't seem to realize you are posting a graphic showing a dual core i3 beating an octacore FX.

That is because nvidia driver overhead is so bad.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Well, if nVidia has so much driver overhead, shouldnt the multitasking monster FX be able to better handle that than the puny i3? Honestly, you just keep digging yourself into a deeper hole with every post.

 

[Erenhardt]

Nv drivers are killing the single thread - it is logical.
I shown more proof for nv driver overhead using CPU in spades, than all of you for amd "driver overhead legend".

 

[jj109]

Nv drivers are killing the single thread - it is logical.
I shown more proof for nv driver overhead using CPU in spades, than all of you for amd "driver overhead legend".

It's amazing to see someone still deny that AMD has bad CPU usage in their DX11 drivers.

The denial was understandable when I started talking about it when AMD revealed Mantle, but with the Nvidia DX11 vs AMD DX11 vs Mantle/DX12 comparisons in BF4, StarSwarm, Thief, and AoS out in the open... still denying that AMD has a problem in DX11 is just sad.

Just sad.

 

[toyota]

It's amazing to see someone still deny that AMD has bad CPU usage in their DX11 drivers.

The denial was understandable when I started talking about it when AMD revealed Mantle, but with the Nvidia DX11 vs AMD DX11 vs Mantle/DX12 comparisons in BF4, StarSwarm, Thief, and AoS out in the open... still denying that AMD has a problem in DX11 is just sad.

Just sad.

lol yeah its a well known FACT at this point and anyone denying it is clueless.

 

[Head1985]

Here are my results @ 1080p Ultra settings with TXAA and 16AF

4.8 GHz 3570K with 1866MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24

GTX 780 @ 1280/1641

CPU usage across all 4 cores isn't that high...

Thanks for testing!i will update results if i have more results...

 

[Face2Face]

How does free form gameplay compare on CPU usage?

See here - In the wasteland I'm seeing higher usage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFdoRydfgk

Thanks for testing!i will update results if i have more results...

You're welcome. I'd love to see what type of FPS an overclocked Haswell-E part could muster.

On another note, I had the volume up a little high when loading your saved game, and after I took the screen shot I heard loud footsteps run towards me from behind and hit me hard... I haven't got that far in the game, but it startled the crap out of me I didn't dare turnaround because I didn't want to spoil the surprise.

 

[Piroko]

You don't seem to realize you are posting a graphic showing a dual core i3 beating an octacore FX.

You're using an i3 with dual channel DDR3-2400 as comparison here. I find the combination i3 and dual channel DDR3-1333 much more realistic.
Heck, browsing through geizhals.de I see many systems that are likely only single channel DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600.

 

[Phynaz]

That is because nvidia driver overhead is so bad.

You don't know this and have not presented any evidence supporting this statement.

The only thing your chart shows is the i3 is faster.

Even if it was due to driver overhead, the i3 is still faster.

i3 > FX8350

Intel dual core > AMD octa core. Your own post proves it.

 

[Phynaz]

You're using an i3 with dual channel DDR3-2400 as comparison here. I find the combination i3 and dual channel DDR3-1333 much more realistic.
Heck, browsing through geizhals.de I see many systems that are likely only single channel DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1600.

The i3 with DDR-1333 is faster than the FX with DDR-1333 in average frame rate.

 

[Head1985]

You're welcome. I'd love to see what type of FPS an overclocked Haswell-E part could muster.
.

Well no1 tested it except you.I think people with haswell-e have also crap performance and dont want post results.

i already asked multiple times on czech forum some people with haswell-e, but no1 give me results..

BTW i already found even more demanding scene..

 

[lopri]

I have never seen a game performance increasing by 40% because of faster memory sticks.

 

[Piroko]

The i3 with DDR-1333 is faster than the FX with DDR-1333 in average frame rate.

True. But the FX will run higher memory speeds no matter the chipset, the i3 will be locked to 1600 MHz unless you assume a z87/z97.

 

[escrow4]

5930K @ 3.7GHz and the load isn't much. Only real dips are in the main city area in some sections.

 

[TheELF]

5930K @ 3.7GHz and the load isn't much. Only real dips are in the main city area in some sections.

The game only has three major threads* ,plus the driver which is pretty small for the most part.

*with the main thread having double the requirements

Would love to see the threads on a real PC so If anybody could show us, that would be great.

 

[Head1985]

I finally have Haswell-E results
5960x 4.2ghz 4x4 quad channel DDR4 2800mhz GTX980TI
58.3Fps

I also have results with new AMD drivers
4930K 4.4Ghz quad channel 2400DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 46fps(old was 33fps)

All results:
6700k 4.5Ghz 3000DDR4 cl14 70fps
5960x 4.2ghz 4x4 quad channel DDR4 2800mhz 58.3fps
6700k 3Ghz 3000DDR4 cl14 54fps
3570K 4.8Ghz 1866MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24 52.8fps
Xeon 6core sandy bridge 4.3ghz quad channel DDR3 1600cl9 52fps
4670k 4,7Ghz 2400DDR3 cl11 52fps
2600K 4.5Ghz 1600DDR3 cl9 49fps
3570k 4.2Ghz 1600DDR3 cl9 43fps

AMD cards
4930K 4.4Ghz quad channel 2400DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 + new driver 46fps
4930K 4.4Ghz quad channel 2400DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 33.3Fps
I7 4820K 4,2Ghz quad channel DDR3 1866 + r9 290 28fps
AMD FX 8370E 4,5GHz 1600DDR3 cl11 + r9 290 22fps