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Facebook IPO watch.

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FB stock tanked 18% yesterday after their first earnings report as a public company. Revenue up 32%, but no change in profit. But no worries, the executives insist that getting more ads on mobile platforms is going to boost profits.

Stock is now down 37% since IPO.
 
Ya, all it's going to take is more advertising to justify their market cap. If they don't grow someonehow, the stock will be in the low teens in no time. And with no growth prosepcts, in the siggle digits.
 
IHateMyJob2004 said:
Ya, all it's going to take is more advertising to justify their market cap. If they don't grow someonehow, the stock will be in the low teens in no time. And with no growth prosepcts, in the siggle digits.
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In other news, analysts are saying "Buy Apple stock now in front of the iPhone 5 release in fall."

LOL- it's at like $575/share right now. Even if it went up $20, you would need about $60000 worth of shares to make $2000. You can make 3% on a savings account.

I don't get investors.
 
Fritzo said:
In other news, analysts are saying "Buy Apple stock now in front of the iPhone 5 release in fall."

LOL- it's at like $575/share right now. Even if it went up $20, you would need about $60000 worth of shares to make $2000. You can make 3% on a savings account.

I don't get investors.
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Were can you make 3% on a savings account? Mine only gives 0.03%. 🙁
 
RapidSnail said:
Were can you make 3% on a savings account? Mine only gives 0.03%. 🙁
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Let alone 3% by October/November.

Edit: 3% over 4 months is 9.27% annualized. Not getting that in a savings account. This is assuming any stock bump due to 5 happens right after people storm the stores to get it.
 
Fritzo said:
In other news, analysts are saying "Buy Apple stock now in front of the iPhone 5 release in fall."

LOL- it's at like $575/share right now. Even if it went up $20, you would need about $60000 worth of shares to make $2000. You can make 3% on a savings account.

I don't get investors.
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That's why I don't trade expensive stocks most of the time.

I like 'em with small float and <$10/sh.
 
FB 90 day lockout is approaching in a couple of weeks. Will employees flood the market with their shares? How soon until FB goes under $20? 😀
 
I stand by what I said initially. FB will get to the low teens before it stabalizes. Could go lower with no real growth prospects though.

Hey, everyone hear that HTC is making a facebook branded phone. That should fail miserably. Going to be a custom Droid based OS.
 
Quote from G+ Post:

Advertiser leaving Facebook after discovering that 80% of the clicks they're paying for are from 'bots.'

A company called Limited Run publicly announced on Facebook that they're leaving Facebook, and for two reasons:

First, they did their own analytics and found that 80% of the clicks Facebook was charging them for were from automated "bots."

Second, the company changed their name. They requested that Facebook change the company name on the business page. But Facebook told them (allegedly) that in order to change their name on Facebook, they would have to spend $2,000 more per month on advertising.

If these allegations are true, how widespread is this abuse?

https://www.facebook.com/limitedpressing/posts/209534972507958
 
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SketchMaster said:
Quote from G+ Post:

Advertiser leaving Facebook after discovering that 80% of the clicks they're paying for are from 'bots.'

A company called Limited Run publicly announced on Facebook that they're leaving Facebook, and for two reasons:

First, they did their own analytics and found that 80% of the clicks Facebook was charging them for were from automated "bots."
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The 80% clicks from bots number isn't limited to just Facebook.
 
chris9641 said:
Why?
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Because it isn't worth nearly as much as these investors were speculating. It's a beautiful thing to watch people lose money over such an obviously horrible investment. At the rate they were going and valuing the company at 100 billion with the IPO they would have to exist for another 99 years for it to even out and actually be worth it. There's no way in hell they are going to increase their profits that much, and even if they did increase their profits to 3x as much (3 billion/year) they would still have to exist for like 33.3 years for it to make sense.

Just look how fast myspace died. Granted facebook has more of a market stronghold, I think they are at their pinnacle right now, or very very close.
 
The thing that people have to realize is that Facebook is a FAD... people will move on to newer and cooler things and that is why Facebook went IPO to do two main things:

1) So early investors and equity holders can cash out their Facebook stocks.

2) To get enough cash reserves to buyout the next big FAD to prevent user migration (aka Instagram).


Facebook's growth is affected inversely to their main revenue source:

To increase stock price they must increase revenue and to do that they have to increase advertising and other stuff... when you do that you lose users/members... and when that happens growth slows or stops and advertising value drops...

Doesn't take a stock analyst or rocket scientist to figure this out...:sneaky:
 
Destiny said:
The thing that people have to realize is that Facebook is a FAD... people will move on to newer and cooler things and that is why Facebook went IPO to do two main things:

1) So early investors and equity holders can cash out their Facebook stocks.

2) To get enough cash reserves to buyout the next big FAD to prevent user migration (aka Instagram).


Facebook's growth is affected inversely to their main revenue source:

To increase stock price they must increase revenue and to do that they have to increase advertising and other stuff... when you do that you lose users/members... and when that happens growth slows or stops and advertising value drops...

Doesn't take a stock analyst or rocket scientist to figure this out...:sneaky:
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My thoughts exactly. It is kinda common sense when you use a little logic. I already see a lot of people wanting to or deleting their accounts.
 
Although on Aug 17 about +270 million stocks will float, it looks like it is Nov 15 when most of the FB stocks will come on market. Over a billion more shares will float then.
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http://seekingalpha.com/article/765811-facebook-investors-your-nightmare-has-just-begun
 
nboy22 said:
Because it isn't worth nearly as much as these investors were speculating. It's a beautiful thing to watch people lose money over such an obviously horrible investment. At the rate they were going and valuing the company at 100 billion with the IPO they would have to exist for another 99 years for it to even out and actually be worth it. There's no way in hell they are going to increase their profits that much, and even if they did increase their profits to 3x as much (3 billion/year) they would still have to exist for like 33.3 years for it to make sense.

Just look how fast myspace died. Granted facebook has more of a market stronghold, I think they are at their pinnacle right now, or very very close.
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Guess we have a difference in the word beautiful... uninformed people were manipulated. I see what you're saying, it was an easy read, but don't you think that seeing that as beautiful you're rewarding the behavior that caused the IPO.
 
chris9641 said:
Guess we have a difference in the word beautiful... uninformed people were manipulated. I see what you're saying, it was an easy read, but don't you think that seeing that as beautiful you're rewarding the behavior that caused the IPO.
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I feel sad for people with 401Ks that bought Facebook and those poor people unknowingly own the stock now. Pretty much the same goes for people with Mutual Funds.

This is why Wall Street is shit. They screw the average working person.
 
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