F1 is hardcore *VIDEO*

[Triumph]

A movie

This is why the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. It has the same timber as the F1 cars, except with a lower redline. Listen to how the tone changes as the revs climb above ~4500 rpm. Absolutely beautiful.

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Another reason the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. You can't tell me that doesn't sound like an F1 car passing by (almost). The F360 does not sound that good, and was a step down in that department from the 355, IMO.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: Triumph
A movie

This is why the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. It has the same timber as the F1 cars, except with a lower redline. Listen to how the tone changes as the revs climb above ~4500 rpm. Absolutely beautiful.

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Another reason the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. You can't tell me that doesn't sound like an F1 car passing by (almost). The F360 does not sound that good, and was a step down in that department from the 355, IMO.

The 360 does has a throatier note up high... but I like them both...

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: Triumph
A movie

This is why the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. It has the same timber as the F1 cars, except with a lower redline. Listen to how the tone changes as the revs climb above ~4500 rpm. Absolutely beautiful.

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Another reason the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. You can't tell me that doesn't sound like an F1 car passing by (almost). The F360 does not sound that good, and was a step down in that department from the 355, IMO.

When you hear an F1 car in person, you'll realize that nothing, I mean nothing on this earth sounds like one.

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: Triumph
A movie

This is why the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. It has the same timber as the F1 cars, except with a lower redline. Listen to how the tone changes as the revs climb above ~4500 rpm. Absolutely beautiful.

Wav file

Another reason the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. You can't tell me that doesn't sound like an F1 car passing by (almost). The F360 does not sound that good, and was a step down in that department from the 355, IMO.

When you hear an F1 car in person, you'll realize that nothing, I mean nothing on this earth sounds like one.

You're welcome for the videos. :roll:

 

[spidey07]

wow...incredible.

it looked so violent and beautiful at the same time.

 

[abaez]

ok.. I just got into an argument with my friend about f1 racing and how he says its the most dangerous sport.. are there any stats on f1 deaths.crashes vs nascar deaths/crashes or something like that? he says you are 3x more likely to get injured or killed in f1.. true?

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: abaez
ok.. I just got into an argument with my friend about f1 racing and how he says its the most dangerous sport.. are there any stats on f1 deaths.crashes vs nascar deaths/crashes or something like that? he says you are 3x more likely to get injured or killed in f1.. true?

Apparently he hasn't been watching in the past ten years. They haven't had any serious injuries in a couple years. Especially after Senna died - a lot of things changed. Before that, things were kind of out of control - people wearing shorts in the pitlane (with no pitlane speed limit), that sort of thing.

Part of it is the nature of the sport - road racing is inherently safer than oval track racing. With the possible exception of Monaco (shown in the clip above) - that place is just ridiculous. But the safety of a modern day F1 car is second to none. They're engineered in a very specific way to dissapate the energy of an impact.

Actually there was a crash at the USGP recently that has Ralf Shumacher sidelined until his bruised brain returns to normal - but that's the most serious injury I can think of in the past 5 years. Somebody correct me.

The most dangerous racing lately has been the Indy Racing League - a fatality last year and a couple of serious injuries which put several drivers out of commission for months.

I'm interested where your friend heard that 3X stat though. I think he'll find there were more fatalities in NASCAR in the past ten years than in F1.

I mean there were a couple of shunts in stock cars in the past few years that really didn't look that bad and people died. Earnhart's crash and Petty's kid at Louden (they really aren't going that fast there, it's a small track). You'd figure with all that metal around you it would be safer.

 

[boyRacer]

Auto racing is indeed dangerous but regulation changes have made cars and tracks much safer than before.

The last death in F1 was in 1994... Senna and Ratzenberger in the same weekend. Since then chicanes and runoffs have been added to tracks which is also responsible for the parades we see on racedays, and cars have been repeatedly slowed down by the governing body but development just ramps the speeds back up.

The last deaths in CART (OWRS) - Greg Moore in 1999, and NASCAR - Dale Earnhardt in 2001 are more recent but any oval racing is dangerous IMHO. I'm not an IRL fan so I don't know much about them but I believe someone did die at the Indy 500 during the first years of IRL... but they have had very serious looking accidents lately... which is why theyre also slowing the cars down.

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: Triumph
A movie

This is why the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. It has the same timber as the F1 cars, except with a lower redline. Listen to how the tone changes as the revs climb above ~4500 rpm. Absolutely beautiful.

Wav file

Another reason the F355 is the best sounding Ferrari ever. You can't tell me that doesn't sound like an F1 car passing by (almost). The F360 does not sound that good, and was a step down in that department from the 355, IMO.

355 is awesome in its own sphere, but nothing compares to F1. Nothing!

 

[SludgeFactory]

In nascar, at new hampshire alone, a few guys have died in the last few years. Over the last 20 or so years, F1 has only had a handful of deaths. But 2 of those 3 were legends.

F1 was a lot more dangerous in the 60's and 70's than it is now. Particularly after Senna, they seemed to lose the cavalier attitude and institute a lot of safety measures. The track neutering was an overreaction unfortunately.

 

[Actaeon]

One thing about the F1 Cars. I went to a Auto Show, very very big autoshow down here in Orlando. They had a 2003(2002?) Jaguar they used to race, it was just sitting on the floor, you can go up to it, touch the car and everything. It wasn't behind rails, or anyone guarding it, just on the show room floor. I'm not sure how well the car was equipped on the showfloor, obviously the gas tank should be empty, and I'm unsure if the engine was still in the car, but you can roll the car around pushing it with just one finger, it is just that light. I didn't roll it much, just a few inches, then back, but it just shows how light these cars are, and how amazingly fast they can be with so much power.

 

Its a video of a video game...
?

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: Actaeon
One thing about the F1 Cars. I went to a Auto Show, very very big autoshow down here in Orlando. They had a 2003(2002?) Jaguar they used to race, it was just sitting on the floor, you can go up to it, touch the car and everything. It wasn't behind rails, or anyone guarding it, just on the show room floor. I'm not sure how well the car was equipped on the showfloor, obviously the gas tank should be empty, and I'm unsure if the engine was still in the car, but you can roll the car around pushing it with just one finger, it is just that light. I didn't roll it much, just a few inches, then back, but it just shows how light these cars are, and how amazingly fast they can be with so much power.

It most likely didn't have an engine in it. Just a "mock up" - a block that sits in it's place.

Interestingly, those cars don't have a "frame" per say. There is a carbon fiber monocoque - where the driver sits and forward. Behind the drive is the fuel tank, then the engine, then the transaxle which the rear suspension and aero bolts to. The engine and transaxle are stressed members of the chassis. With everything removed, they can place the monocoque on a table to work on it.

But yeah - they are light. 1150lbs with a driver. Not bad for a car that makes over 850hp.

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Its a video of a video game...
?

No its real.

 

[CFster]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Its a video of a video game...
?

No.

It's an onboard camera shot of a F1 car going around the Monaco circuit in southern France.

They actually race through the city streets for this event. Insanely dangerous, but it has so much history they still race there. Most of the other circuits they race at are more wide open - road course tracks.

They hit 180mph through the tunnel.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
This year Fernando Alonso went to pass a slower car (who slowed on the racing line) and he got out there in the marbles and hit the wall in the tunnel. His car came out of the tunnel spinning and missing a wheel or two at around 160mph. He still had time to give Ralf Schumacher the "you're number one" salute though before his car came to a halt.

Also, race leader, Michael Schumacher had an incident in the tunnel under the safety car when he lock up his brakes and swerved into a surprised Juan Montoya who was trying to avoid hitting the 6 times world Champion. Ended up crashing himself out of the race. OOOOPS!!!

Now, both of those statements are the subject of many arguements on many forums.

1. Fernando pulled off the dumbest move of his career when he crashed in the tunnel. It had nothing to do with Ralf.

2. Shumacher didn't swerve, and Juan was following too close.

Well, I agree with you on one of those statements anyway. Fernando should have lifted but Ralf was stupid for slowing on the racing line in the tunnel.

His brother definitely moved over into Juan when he tried to take evasive action in the tunnel. MS has done this many times and it finally caught him out. Boo Fvcking Hoo. He can go cry himself a river if he likes but he can do no bitching about it because he was as much to blame if not moreso than JPM.

 

[boyRacer]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
This year Fernando Alonso went to pass a slower car (who slowed on the racing line) and he got out there in the marbles and hit the wall in the tunnel. His car came out of the tunnel spinning and missing a wheel or two at around 160mph. He still had time to give Ralf Schumacher the "you're number one" salute though before his car came to a halt.

Also, race leader, Michael Schumacher had an incident in the tunnel under the safety car when he lock up his brakes and swerved into a surprised Juan Montoya who was trying to avoid hitting the 6 times world Champion. Ended up crashing himself out of the race. OOOOPS!!!

Now, both of those statements are the subject of many arguements on many forums.

1. Fernando pulled off the dumbest move of his career when he crashed in the tunnel. It had nothing to do with Ralf.

2. Shumacher didn't swerve, and Juan was following too close.

Well, I agree with you on one of those statements anyway. Fernando should have lifted but Ralf was stupid for slowing on the racing line in the tunnel.

His brother definitely moved over into Juan when he tried to take evasive action in the tunnel. MS has done this many times and it finally caught him out. Boo Fvcking Hoo. He can go cry himself a river if he likes but he can do no bitching about it because he was as much to blame if not moreso than JPM.

It's both their fault... MS for choosing the tunnel to do his little brake testing and JPM for following too closely. MS did not intentionally move over to hit JPM... why the hell would he do that? nor did JPM try to overtake MS... no reason to that either.

 

[luvya]

Originally posted by: bR

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: CFster

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
This year Fernando Alonso went to pass a slower car (who slowed on the racing line) and he got out there in the marbles and hit the wall in the tunnel. His car came out of the tunnel spinning and missing a wheel or two at around 160mph. He still had time to give Ralf Schumacher the "you're number one" salute though before his car came to a halt.

Also, race leader, Michael Schumacher had an incident in the tunnel under the safety car when he lock up his brakes and swerved into a surprised Juan Montoya who was trying to avoid hitting the 6 times world Champion. Ended up crashing himself out of the race. OOOOPS!!!

Now, both of those statements are the subject of many arguements on many forums.

1. Fernando pulled off the dumbest move of his career when he crashed in the tunnel. It had nothing to do with Ralf.

2. Shumacher didn't swerve, and Juan was following too close.

Well, I agree with you on one of those statements anyway. Fernando should have lifted but Ralf was stupid for slowing on the racing line in the tunnel.

His brother definitely moved over into Juan when he tried to take evasive action in the tunnel. MS has done this many times and it finally caught him out. Boo Fvcking Hoo. He can go cry himself a river if he likes but he can do no bitching about it because he was as much to blame if not moreso than JPM.

It's both their fault... MS for choosing the tunnel to do his little brake testing and JPM for following too closely. MS did not intentionally move over to hit JPM... why the hell would he do that? nor did JPM try to overtake MS... no reason to that either.

The tunnel thing is just that....racing incident. Nobody is trying to do anything crazy, but things happens.
However, Ralf is a complete idiot, and he was to be blamed for Fenando's early retirement. Ralf has involved in many accidents this year, I can't think of one not his fault.