opticalmace
Golden Member
Monaco is my fav grand prix race. Wish I could see it.
Maybe someday... *checks credit card balance*
Maybe someday... *checks credit card balance*
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F1 is hardcore *VIDEO*
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mAdD INDIAN
Diamond Member
Yeah that was the fateful Senna one. I have that F1 Decade episode on my computer. I have yet to watch it though.
I'm not going to an F1 race unless it goes back to Long Beach... 😛
Tickets for the US GP goes for around $85-150... the stands right by the first corner is around $105 for raceday... that would be the coolest place as they brake like hell and you can hear them downshift... :heart:
Practice/Qualifying admissions is around $25 and you can pretty much go wherever you want... 🙂
DingDingDao
Diamond Member
Totally worth the money if you're a racing fan...it's really hard to get a sense for how fast these cars accelerate, brake, and turn from watching on TV (zoom lenses ruin the effect), and how absolutely glorious these cars sound in real life. Another fun race to go to is the 24 Hours of Le Mans. Crazy, man, crazy...
GreenGhost
Golden Member
That's nothing compared with qualifying at Talladega. That's when talent is required. 🙂
Why they don't put one gear that would go around the whole track? (A former Nascar driver actually asked a guy on Speed after qualy for Sears Point, this week).
Why they don't put one gear that would go around the whole track? (A former Nascar driver actually asked a guy on Speed after qualy for Sears Point, this week).
DingDingDao
Diamond Member
You're joking, right? Nevermind...I don't want to get into another argument about F1 vs NASCAR...there's really no point.
Not so sure about that. On the big ovals it's like 80% car, 20% driver. Basically they have it matted all the way around and hope for a draft. I'm more impressed with a good drive at Darlington.
Actually that's sort of what Montoya said when he came over and won Indy. He said, "it's just a bunch of left hand turns - it's easy" - and he proved it. The F1 guys are on another level.
DingDingDao
Diamond Member
Right back at ya for F1 :beer:
Did anyone see the FIA Rally of Turkey this weekend on Speed? Those guys are crazy...but it's fun to watch.
wrc rally cars are equally as cool but this year I havent been that interested because they oversaturated me with coverage.........I cant watch 3 or 4 nights of rally on the weekends. I remember when they used to have a 1 hours show of the entire rally. That was just perfect and now besides that they got rid of the english announcers for the american coverage and gave us ralph as an announcer:roll:
Im embarrassed to say its too much coverage😱
Im embarrassed to say its too much coverage😱
GreenGhost
Golden Member
I was just kidding... Those guys are in a different league, while in the US people are still trying to find another Mario Andretti... Crossing the Atlantic (eastward) is harder than ever. Zanardi's failure, and Montoya's inneficiency (I'm thinking he's worth than Barrichelo!), both of whom considered Gods in the US, just highlighted the different levels.
Road racing in the US is intriguing because there's a lot going on, but at the same time nothing is raised to a level where Americans can compete in the world scenario. Take ALMS, for example: it's a great series, lots of money, but it's dominated by Europeans with more experience (many who didn't make at F1). At the same time, most road tracks in the US look like crap. One look and you know it's in the US (patched asphalt, unkept grass, wavy guard rails,...).
There's good racing every weekend on the US. But maybe not where Nascar goes. When a TV commentator goes "We was in the pits talking to...." my interest just vanishes. It's obvious they are trying to reach a certain audience.
The press pushes a series where people go in circles with old-fashioned cars, supported by a well orchestrated hype that tells people that's the best thing there is. It maybe great business for those involved (including a "press" that's is just another business). These types of spec series are fine for beginners and cheap club racing. Furthermore, the manufacturers are in the game, and don't really compete against each other. Toyota will just join the business (not the sport) when it also goes xASCAR.
Road racing in the US is intriguing because there's a lot going on, but at the same time nothing is raised to a level where Americans can compete in the world scenario. Take ALMS, for example: it's a great series, lots of money, but it's dominated by Europeans with more experience (many who didn't make at F1). At the same time, most road tracks in the US look like crap. One look and you know it's in the US (patched asphalt, unkept grass, wavy guard rails,...).
There's good racing every weekend on the US. But maybe not where Nascar goes. When a TV commentator goes "We was in the pits talking to...." my interest just vanishes. It's obvious they are trying to reach a certain audience.
The press pushes a series where people go in circles with old-fashioned cars, supported by a well orchestrated hype that tells people that's the best thing there is. It maybe great business for those involved (including a "press" that's is just another business). These types of spec series are fine for beginners and cheap club racing. Furthermore, the manufacturers are in the game, and don't really compete against each other. Toyota will just join the business (not the sport) when it also goes xASCAR.
GreenGhost
Golden Member
I don't think they have the 4-day WRC coverage anymore. It was a choice, you could follow every night, or just watch the summary on Mondays. The pre-race program was pretty interesting, showing the place and what was new. The moment the program became familiar, they just "dubbed" it with the American narrator (and dumbed-down the text). I was always amazed at how fast they produced those shows, which aired just hours after the event.
DingDingDao
Diamond Member
Re: Barrichello--I think if he were to move to another team and become the primary (Williams anyone?), he would have a better shot at competitive racing. Driving behind Schumacher is probably holding him back a little. I'm not saying he's better than Schumacher, but I think he could probably win a race or two by being able to be more aggressive at the front, instead of having to tiptoe around Michael.
Re: Zanardi--I agree that he probably would not have done too well in F1, but unfortunately, we won't ever find out. I read an article in Automobile mag about what he's been doing since the accident...pretty inspiring stuff.
FrustratedUser
Lifer
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