F-Sport wheels... yes or no?

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jlee

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MJinZ

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Is your gym one of those gyms associated with a hospital for retirees who have had a heart attack? LS = RWD Buick.

No, it seems like all the 30 somethings like to buy used high end sedans (7, LS, S-Class) and modify them like crazy. These are no grandpas driving them, unless your grandpas got like 20" arms.
 

exdeath

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I'm keeping my Camry as a daily driver forever.

Word. Too bad it's not a mid 90s model that's proven, Toyota doesn't make them like they used to. I don't know the track record of the new ones, I just know the 2GR is sweet and it's about time the Camry got some competative power.

Just don't rice it out. Wheels aren't rice, unless they are rice wheels, but I think the biggest OMG WTFBBQCHKN here in this thread is the price of the wheels for a Camry... it's not like you are buying 3 pc forged lightweights for a sports car or something, you're talking $350 each for what are *still* heavy 1 pc cast OEM wheels for a Camry. You can do ALOT better than that.

Those BBS wheels I linked might not be your thing, but that was just a single example of a decent set of aftermarket lightweight alloys for a Camry that are $400 for the *entire set of 4* (I think you'd need 17/18 though for that year Camry for it to look right).
 
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exdeath

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No, it seems like all the 30 somethings like to buy used high end sedans (7, LS, S-Class) and modify them like crazy. These are no grandpas driving them, unless your grandpas got like 20" arms.

That's pretty typical of $100,000 cars that can be had used for <= $20,000 a year later. They become available to people who normally can't afford them who buy them up and pimp them out expecting everyone to think they still have a $100,000 car. That is... until the maintenence cost catches up to them.
 
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PricklyPete

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No, it seems like all the 30 somethings like to buy used high end sedans (7, LS, S-Class) and modify them like crazy. These are no grandpas driving them, unless your grandpas got like 20" arms.

With 20" arms, maybe they just want something soft that a grandpa would drive because their butts are sore from all the steroid injections.
 

DivideBYZero

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I love how we've gone through rice, BMW hate, trolling, fleabag 2.0 and now 20" arms. This thread delivers.
 

rh71

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seriously, whatever makes you happy. If when you walk away from your car, you have the urge to turn around just to look at it, that's what you go for.

oh and FYI there will not be a Z4 M... there is no market for it.
 
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MJinZ

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Word. Too bad it's not a mid 90s model that's proven, Toyota doesn't make them like they used to. I don't know the track record of the new ones, I just know the 2GR is sweet and it's about time the Camry got some competative power.

Just don't rice it out. Wheels aren't rice, unless they are rice wheels, but I think the biggest OMG WTFBBQCHKN here in this thread is the price of the wheels for a Camry... it's not like you are buying 3 pc forged lightweights for a sports car or something, you're talking $350 each for what are *still* heavy 1 pc cast OEM wheels for a Camry. You can do ALOT better than that.

Those BBS wheels I linked might not be your thing, but that was just a single example of a decent set of aftermarket lightweight alloys for a Camry that are $400 for the *entire set of 4* (I think you'd need 17/18 though for that year Camry for it to look right).

Really? They are supposed to be pretty light, around 19lbs.

http://www.insideline.com/lexus/is-250/2008/2008-lexus-is-250-f-sport-follow-up-test.html

They are Forged aluminum wheels made by BBS or Rays... and they are OEM for the IS and GS. They fit on Toyotas only because of the same hub bore and conservative offsets.

I'm looking at getting some used MRRs as well, maybe HR2s.
 
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Demo24

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Those are 19's which are different from the 18's you posted earlier. The 18's weigh 22lbs.
 

MJinZ

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Those are 19's which are different from the 18's you posted earlier. The 18's weigh 22lbs.

22 lbs isn't that bad...right?

I'm not really buying them to for faster acceleration or anything. My wheels right now probably weigh close to 30lbs.
 
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Demo24

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Not great, but not horrible. Gotta remember the tires will add noticeably to that. I wouldn't be surprised if the tires on my wheels weigh more than the wheels.
 

sdifox

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The EnVigors are heavy tires.

My rims (OZ Ultraleggera 18x8) are 18lb, the Yokohama Avid EnVigor 245/40/18 97W XL tires however come in at 28lb.


The Advan Sports I had before were 23lb each. Big difference.
 
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exdeath

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22 lbs is pretty heavy for a 7" wide supposedly forged wheel. If they were 9" wide I'd say that was pretty decent. You can get 18x9 and 18x10 wheels that are 22 lbs or less for around the same price as those, and width adds significantly more to weight than diameter. Those can't be forged wheels, unless the fine print says forged center caps or you are confusing "alloy" with "forged". Most OEM alloy wheels are 1 pc castings.

Not that it matters for a Camry. As you said, it's just for looks. And most people worried about saving 3 lbs each on their wheels are at least 20 lbs overweight anyway.
 
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sdifox

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22 lbs is pretty heavy for a 7" wide supposedly forged wheel. If they were 9" wide I'd say that was pretty decent. You can get 18x9 and 18x10 wheels that are 22 lbs or less for around the same price as those, and width adds significantly more to weight than diameter. Those can't be forged wheels, unless the fine print says forged center caps or you are confusing "alloy" with "forged". Most OEM alloy wheels are 1 pc castings.

Not that it matters for a Camry. As you said, it's just for looks. And most people worried about saving 3 lbs each on their wheels are at least 20 lbs overweight anyway.

The wheels have to be heavier so he can put the power down!
 

MJinZ

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22 lbs is pretty heavy for a 7" wide supposedly forged wheel. If they were 9" wide I'd say that was pretty decent. You can get 18x9 and 18x10 wheels that are 22 lbs or less for around the same price as those, and width adds significantly more to weight than diameter. Those can't be forged wheels, unless the fine print says forged center caps or you are confusing "alloy" with "forged". Most OEM alloy wheels are 1 pc castings.

Not that it matters for a Camry. As you said, it's just for looks. And most people worried about saving 3 lbs each on their wheels are at least 20 lbs overweight anyway.

7" wide? I don't think even stock wheels are that narrow anymore.

This is what Lexus says:

18" Forged Alloy Wheels.
http://www.lexus.com/models/IS/f-sport/19_in_forged_alloy_wheels.htmlhttp://www.lexus.com/models/IS/f-sport/index.html
 

exdeath

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Oops I was thinking Camry sizes. You sure a 8 or 9" wheel is going to work on a Camry? Almost positive you'll have rubbing/turning radius issues in the front without rack limiters.

He should have no problem with 8 or 9 wide...
 

MJinZ

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Oops I was thinking Camry sizes. You sure a 8 or 9" wheel is going to work on a Camry? Almost positive you'll have rubbing/turning radius issues in the front without rack limiters.

Of course, I run an "recommended for 8" wheels" tire right now (235s) on my 7.5" wheels.

Camrys can accomodate 8.5" wheels up front w/ a 235 tire with up to +35 offset lowered on Coilovers. I'm not close to that low.

These F-Sport 18x8 +40mms on my 235 tires should look tame and fairly tucked in.
 

exdeath

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Of course, I run an "recommended for 8" wheels" tire right now (235s) on my 7.5" wheels.

Camrys can accomodate 8.5" wheels up front w/ a 235 tire with up to +35 offset lowered on Coilovers. I'm not close to that low.

Camrys have come a long way from 14 x 5.5" wheels then.