F-16 straffs school in New Jersey

[ViperSSD]

Originally posted by: maddogchen
they should not put schools within 20 miles of a live fire target range. Or anything with civilians nearby.

the base was there before the school "Or anything with civilians nearby"

 

[tkdkid]

A fighter jet can travel 3.5 miles in 40 seconds easy. Not much room for error.

The F-16's top speed is much higher, but they probably wouldn't be going near top speed for a strafing run.

 

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Trump to F-16 pilot: "You're fired."

lol

:thumbsup:

 

[SuperTool]

Interesting. Glad he didn't drop a bomb

 

[futuristicmonkey]

Originally posted by: alm4rr
there must have been come Canadians at the school....

:| stfu

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Interesting. Glad he didn't drop a bomb

interesting you should say that. when i was stationed at Nellis AFB Las Vegas in 1989 there were two accidents were practice bombs were acciently dropped from fighters and landed in a residential neighborhood. The first one landed in the street, embedding its nose in the ground. the second went through a roof and landed in the living room.

the practice bombs they use to bomb targets are much smaller, are solid blue and only have a shotgun charge that on impact blows out white or yellow powder to show the hit.

the first bomb that landed in the street was dropped by a Marine Harrier, the second bomb was dropped by a British Tornado.

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: Chompman
Must had gone to that school when he was a kid

ahahaha sounds likely

 

[0roo0roo]

wonder if he was all stimmed up.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: PoPPeR
was the person flying the plane named Calvin and was his copilot a stuffed tiger named Hobbes?

That was a missle IIRC.

 

[Nebor]

No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Nebor
No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

If we judge any kind of incidents based on "no harm no fowl", there'd be full of crazy people running wild thinking it's all good as long as no harm's done. People who make stupid and dangrous mistakes should be punished no matter what the outcomes are.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor
No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

If we judge any kind of incidents based on "no harm no fowl", there'd be full of crazy people running wild thinking it's all good as long as no harm's done. People who make stupid and dangrous mistakes should be punished no matter what the outcomes are.

It's an understandable mistake. Have you ever been in a plane at 4000 feet, looking down at the ground through an infrared filter? All buildings are just shapes. There's no detail to them. And they're passing by relatively quickly.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Buildings don't pass by all that fast at 7,000 feet.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Nik
Buildings don't pass by all that fast at 7,000 feet.

Well they do at 4000 feet, smartass.

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor
No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

If we judge any kind of incidents based on "no harm no fowl", there'd be full of crazy people running wild thinking it's all good as long as no harm's done. People who make stupid and dangrous mistakes should be punished no matter what the outcomes are.

It's an understandable mistake. Have you ever been in a plane at 4000 feet, looking down at the ground through an infrared filter? All buildings are just shapes. There's no detail to them. And they're passing by relatively quickly.

It was a pilot who was on that fighter. Not one of civilians. It's his job to know what and how to target the target. All buildings aren't just simple shapes. The fighter's got all those high tech. sensors and computers for him to do the job right. He failed to do the job right and could've caused many innocent deaths. This shows that he should've not been in his position.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor
No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

If we judge any kind of incidents based on "no harm no fowl", there'd be full of crazy people running wild thinking it's all good as long as no harm's done. People who make stupid and dangrous mistakes should be punished no matter what the outcomes are.

It's an understandable mistake. Have you ever been in a plane at 4000 feet, looking down at the ground through an infrared filter? All buildings are just shapes. There's no detail to them. And they're passing by relatively quickly.

It was a pilot who was on that fighter. Not one of civilians. It's his job to know what and how to target the target. All buildings aren't just simple shapes. The fighter's got all those high tech. sensors and computers for him to do the job right. He failed to do the job right and could've caused many innocent deaths. This shows that he should've not been in his position.

"high tech. sensors and computers" eh? That sounds pretty snazzy. I'm not one to argue with one such as yourself, who by the sounds of it must be at least a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force, with 20 years of flight experience. Tell me, Lt. Colonel, with all these "high tech. sensors and computers," why not just have the planes fly themselves?

 

[slick230]

This is just another example of some hotshot moisture farming punk turning off his targetting computer and using "the Force". Except, this guy had no mojo.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: slick230
This is just another example of some hotshot moisture farming punk turning off his targetting computer and using "the Force". Except, this guy had no mojo.

Tickles and sunshine patrol? :boobies;

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor
No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

If we judge any kind of incidents based on "no harm no fowl", there'd be full of crazy people running wild thinking it's all good as long as no harm's done. People who make stupid and dangrous mistakes should be punished no matter what the outcomes are.

It's an understandable mistake. Have you ever been in a plane at 4000 feet, looking down at the ground through an infrared filter? All buildings are just shapes. There's no detail to them. And they're passing by relatively quickly.

It was a pilot who was on that fighter. Not one of civilians. It's his job to know what and how to target the target. All buildings aren't just simple shapes. The fighter's got all those high tech. sensors and computers for him to do the job right. He failed to do the job right and could've caused many innocent deaths. This shows that he should've not been in his position.

"high tech. sensors and computers" eh? That sounds pretty snazzy. I'm not one to argue with one such as yourself, who by the sounds of it must be at least a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force, with 20 years of flight experience. Tell me, Lt. Colonel, with all these "high tech. sensors and computers," why not just have the planes fly themselves?

Can your computer type by itself without you typing it?
I'm sorry that I've never been a Lt. Colonel. I used to be a Sgt.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees

Originally posted by: Nebor
No harm no fowl, give the man back his keys.

If we judge any kind of incidents based on "no harm no fowl", there'd be full of crazy people running wild thinking it's all good as long as no harm's done. People who make stupid and dangrous mistakes should be punished no matter what the outcomes are.

It's an understandable mistake. Have you ever been in a plane at 4000 feet, looking down at the ground through an infrared filter? All buildings are just shapes. There's no detail to them. And they're passing by relatively quickly.

It was a pilot who was on that fighter. Not one of civilians. It's his job to know what and how to target the target. All buildings aren't just simple shapes. The fighter's got all those high tech. sensors and computers for him to do the job right. He failed to do the job right and could've caused many innocent deaths. This shows that he should've not been in his position.

"high tech. sensors and computers" eh? That sounds pretty snazzy. I'm not one to argue with one such as yourself, who by the sounds of it must be at least a Lt. Colonel in the Air Force, with 20 years of flight experience. Tell me, Lt. Colonel, with all these "high tech. sensors and computers," why not just have the planes fly themselves?

Can your computer type by itself without you typing it?
I'm sorry that I've never been a Lt. Colonel. I used to be a Sgt.

Well sorry there turbo, I don't believe they let enlisted men fly the planes.

 

[Deadtrees]

The pilot was a professional. I do know how hard it is to become a F-16 pilot and the reason why it's so hard is because this kind of mistake can't be tolerated. He failed to do his job right and could've caused major chaos. He had his chance and failed it very bad. There're many other guys who can take his spot. Let him move on. The military isn't a place where this kind of mistake can be forgiven.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
The pilot was a professional. I do know how hard it is to become a F-16 pilot and the reason why it's so hard is because this kind of mistake can't be tolerated. He failed to do his job right and could've caused major chaos. He had his chance and failed it very bad. There're many other guys who can take his spot. Let him move on. The military isn't a place where this kind of mistake can be forgiven.

Actually, it is. Dozens of allied forces are killed every year by American military forces with little or no recourse. Things are stolen and looted from invaded countries, cars are run over with tanks as punishment, etc. The military allows for far more mistakes than the business world.

This mistake wasn't the pilots fault. The story leads us to believe that an enemy soldier actually triggered his cannon. I bet the pilot is given a slap on the wrist.

 

[Deadtrees]

Same rule applies in every other professional fields. It doesn't matter if nobody got hurt because we're dealing with possibilities of the worst outcome. Once again, this is miltiary and this is about a professional F-16 pilot. It may be easy to say that he just made a mistake because it's just too blurry up there but it's not. He's trained all those years and went through all those tests to NOT make this kind of mistake. Would you have that kind of pilot in the line of fire? So you can have your ground men killed?

 

[Nebor]

I tell you what, let's judge who's right by the punishment he gets, ok? If he loses his wings, you win. Otherwise, it goes to me. But we know what's gonna happen, right? The reason he won't lose his wings is because it's not a big deal. It's actually pretty funny!

 

[Deadtrees]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: Deadtrees
The pilot was a professional. I do know how hard it is to become a F-16 pilot and the reason why it's so hard is because this kind of mistake can't be tolerated. He failed to do his job right and could've caused major chaos. He had his chance and failed it very bad. There're many other guys who can take his spot. Let him move on. The military isn't a place where this kind of mistake can be forgiven.

Actually, it is. Dozens of allied forces are killed every year by American military forces with little or no recourse. Things are stolen and looted from invaded countries, cars are run over with tanks as punishment, etc. The military allows for far more mistakes than the business world.

This mistake wasn't the pilots fault. The story leads us to believe that an enemy soldier actually triggered his cannon. I bet the pilot is given a slap on the wrist.

In the war, in that chaos...yes, it can be forgiven because of its extreme circumstances. If this incident happened during the war, I would've said something different about it because I know how crazy it gets. However, the pilot was NOT in the war. It's that simple. A pilot who can't even do the job right when in a training cannot do anything right in the war.