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Extremely disappointed in FIOS internet

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When I had FIOS in Seattle a few years ago, I had 25 down 25 up.

Now that I'm in Austin, I have 25 down and 1 up with cable from TWC. I get faster upload speeds for burst upload (like you have with normal internet browsing).

As far as I can tell, my cable internet with TWC is just as fast as my Verizon FIOS for normal web browsing. The only difference is uploading large files.
 
SheHateMe said:
I want Fios too...but my mom is an egghead and signed a 2 year agreement with Comcast.
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Move out of Mom's basement. Problem solved!

On a serious note, it's either Comcast or Verizon FIOS in my neighborhood. And you'd have to kill me to get me to switch to Comcrap.

Dari said:
I talked to two people today about FIOS and both said it's slow compared to Time Warner Cable. They both said the speed test numbers and real world usage are completely different. One guy also said that Verizon started capping him after downloading a substantial amount of data. I knew I was right.
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Bullshit. You'd have to be an extreme bandwidth user for them to cap you. it's the cable companies that seem to like data caps.

Normal, even heavy, household usage will incur no caps with Verizon. In my house, I got an internet streaming box running at least 15 hours out of the day for streaming channels that aren't available in the USA. My son watches his cartoons and songs on Youtube (probably more than he should) all day. There's also large uploads and downloads by me every few days for stuff like testing out new software builds or databases (multiple files at about 500MB to a few GB's each) and I haven't heard a thing from Verizon.
 
Dari said:
I talked to two people today about FIOS and both said it's slow compared to Time Warner Cable. They both said the speed test numbers and real world usage are completely different. One guy also said that Verizon started capping him after downloading a substantial amount of data. I knew I was right.
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lol bumping your own 9 month old thread to post that? excellent troll, would read again A+++
 
cpacini said:
lol bumping your own 9 month old thread to post that? excellent troll, would read again A+++
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Don't know why people are doubting me. The normal browsing speed of FIOS is ok, not as fast as my TWC. The torrent was much worse. The people I talked to were very different people who happened to be in the same room. One is a lawyer for a major movie studio and the other is an IT guy at where I work. The IT guy said they capped him when he downloaded over a 150GB in a week. And his internet was slow from day one. The lawyer said he was extremely disappointed with the service and it was not as good as TWC (he had both at the same time). He just got that hockey puck device from SONY that allows him to download 4K movies.

Who knows, it may be the router Verizon is/was using. But I have yet to meet anyone who likes FIOS in NYC.
 
Dari said:
Don't know why people are doubting me. The normal browsing speed of FIOS is ok, not as fast as my TWC. The torrent was much worse. The people I talked to were very different people who happened to be in the same room. One is a lawyer for a major movie studio and the other is an IT guy at where I work. The IT guy said they capped him when he downloaded over a 150GB in a week. And his internet was slow from day one. The lawyer said he was extremely disappointed with the service and it was not as good as TWC (he had both at the same time). He just got that hockey puck device from SONY that allows him to download 4K movies.

Who knows, it may be the router Verizon is/was using. But I have yet to meet anyone who likes FIOS in NYC.
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My friend has fios 300mbps download, 150mbps upload. I download large files at his house.
 
Dari said:
Don't know why people are doubting me. The normal browsing speed of FIOS is ok, not as fast as my TWC. The torrent was much worse. The people I talked to were very different people who happened to be in the same room. One is a lawyer for a major movie studio and the other is an IT guy at where I work. The IT guy said they capped him when he downloaded over a 150GB in a week. And his internet was slow from day one. The lawyer said he was extremely disappointed with the service and it was not as good as TWC (he had both at the same time). He just got that hockey puck device from SONY that allows him to download 4K movies.

Who knows, it may be the router Verizon is/was using. But I have yet to meet anyone who likes FIOS in NYC.
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For me, it is when asked for a speedtest, you just dismiss it as different from normal usage. Well yeah, obviously it depends on the connection of the computer on the other end, which is why I find it funny you claim torrents (which lets face it is not very common for legitimate file transfer) more indicative of download speed than say a backbone speedtest server. There is the DNS problem that was posted above which would affect web browsing, but still not limit total throughput.

There are zero repercussions for you to be making this up, which doesn't matter to me because I am stuck on cable and your opinion of Fios would not enter my mind if it were a choice. You are passing off hearsay as data, and it doesn't really work with me.
 
Captain Howdy said:
For me, it is when asked for a speedtest, you just dismiss it as different from normal usage. Well yeah, obviously it depends on the connection of the computer on the other end, which is why I find it funny you claim torrents (which lets face it is not very common for legitimate file transfer) more indicative of download speed than say a backbone speedtest server. There is the DNS problem that was posted above which would affect web browsing, but still not limit total throughput.

There are zero repercussions for you to be making this up, which doesn't matter to me because I am stuck on cable and your opinion of Fios would not enter my mind if it were a choice. You are passing off hearsay as data, and it doesn't really work with me.
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Heresay and experience. I'm going to their house tomorrow to watch football since I don't have cable tv. I'll do the speedtest while there in addition to some browsing on my phone. We'll see how it goes.
 
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For $70/month. Actually it's supposed to be 50/25, I have to give them a call.
 
Dari said:
Heresay and experience. I'm going to their house tomorrow to watch football since I don't have cable tv. I'll do the speedtest while there in addition to some browsing on my phone. We'll see how it goes.
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I watch football online streaming with no cable TV. Screw your friend's house, learn to internet from Europe.
 
Dari said:
Don't know why people are doubting me. The normal browsing speed of FIOS is ok, not as fast as my TWC. The torrent was much worse. The people I talked to were very different people who happened to be in the same room. One is a lawyer for a major movie studio and the other is an IT guy at where I work. The IT guy said they capped him when he downloaded over a 150GB in a week. And his internet was slow from day one. The lawyer said he was extremely disappointed with the service and it was not as good as TWC (he had both at the same time). He just got that hockey puck device from SONY that allows him to download 4K movies.

Who knows, it may be the router Verizon is/was using. But I have yet to meet anyone who likes FIOS in NYC.
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You can't be so ignorant to not realize the servers on the other end can be inhibited too. I download from newsgroups at full speed all the time. I am provisioned for 30/30Mbps which is equal to 3.75MBps and I actually get that on the download EVERY SINGLE TIME. I never get that max speed on torrents - I'm lucky to ever get 2MBps.

Now when I stream stuff like hockey games I barely get 500KBps. Why? Because of the other servers on the other end and the hundreds of thousands of other users doing the same thing. It just sounds like you want to hate FIOS regardless. I've downloaded 250GB in a month a few times and have never been capped. Can't say the same for Cablevision, although ever since FIOS came along, they stopped capping too.
 
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rh71 said:
You can't be so ignorant to not realize the servers on the other end can be inhibited too. I download from newsgroups at full speed all the time. I am provisioned for 30/30Mbps which is equal to 3.75MBps and I actually get that on the download EVERY SINGLE TIME. I never get that max speed on torrents.

Now when I stream stuff like hockey games I barely get 500KBps. Why? Because of the other servers on the other end and the hundreds of thousands of other users doing the same thing. It just sounds like you want to hate FIOS regardless.
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same torrent. different ISPs.
 
Dari said:
Don't know why people are doubting me. The normal browsing speed of FIOS is ok, not as fast as my TWC. The torrent was much worse. The people I talked to were very different people who happened to be in the same room. One is a lawyer for a major movie studio and the other is an IT guy at where I work. The IT guy said they capped him when he downloaded over a 150GB in a week. And his internet was slow from day one. The lawyer said he was extremely disappointed with the service and it was not as good as TWC (he had both at the same time). He just got that hockey puck device from SONY that allows him to download 4K movies.

Who knows, it may be the router Verizon is/was using. But I have yet to meet anyone who likes FIOS in NYC.
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First of all, VZ would not cap anyone on FIOS for downloading "150GB" in a week. The "soft cap", as users on BBR have been finding out, is around 10TB per month. Terabytes.

Another issue is, were those MDU VDSL installs, or were they installs with a true fiber per unit, like most installs? The issue is the landlords in NYC, they may not want Verizon to be drilling holes into the walls of all the units, and installing ONTs. So they run ONE fiber into the building (usually the basement), with a special MDU ONT, and then send the signal using VDSL over the phone lines in the building. This limits the speed of the FIOS connection to 20-25Mbit or so, which is a far cry from what a true fiber install is capable of.
 
VirtualLarry said:
First of all, VZ would not cap anyone on FIOS for downloading "150GB" in a week. The "soft cap", as users on BBR have been finding out, is around 10TB per month. Terabytes.

Another issue is, were those MDU VDSL installs, or were they installs with a true fiber per unit, like most installs? The issue is the landlords in NYC, they may not want Verizon to be drilling holes into the walls of all the units, and installing ONTs. So they run ONE fiber into the building (usually the basement), with a special MDU ONT, and then send the signal using VDSL over the phone lines in the building. This limits the speed of the FIOS connection to 20-25Mbit or so, which is a far cry from what a true fiber install is capable of.
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So what you're basically saying is that the people here not believing me don't know the true story of FIOS? Color me shocked.🙄 NYC apartments may be unwilling to let Verizon do "true fiber". However, I must say that there is an ONT in the closet of my relative's home.

I think you may be onto something here. As for the guy saying he got capped, it's his story that I'm simply repeating.
 
Dari said:
All the hype regarding their internet service is just that. I have TWC in my apartment. Went to visit some relatives who have FIOS. The internet there was ok. Went to download some torrents and it was much much slower than TWC. Now, Verizon does not produce content so they have no reason to care what anyone says as far as torrents are concerned. TWC, OTOH, is always harping about it. But the Verizon internet was worse than my $20/month plan. The clarity of their cable channels, however, is much better than TWC's.

Never bothered with the uploads.
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Right, because network stack problems, NIC driver problems, OS problems, servers that you connect to restricting bandwidth back to you, NONE of that EVER OCCURS. Internet speeds are ALWAYS the fault of the ISP!

EVERYBODY RIOT
 
I have had fios for about 4 years split between 2 cities, with a stint with comcast before and in the middle.

Fios is really really fast, and it's consistency can't be matched. I am getting frustrated with YouTube/netflix issues that another person brought up. If you google it, there are tons of issues posted online about it and apparently it has something to do with backbone disputes between Verizon and cogent/level3/I forget which one. You can get around it by using proxfree.com at least for YouTube on the computer.

The modem that you have to use for TV does kind of suck.

They really need to work on their set top box though because it's not as good as the comcast x1 system. I use a cablcard with mce which has its own downsides(no on demand), but at least the interface is usable and I can record more than 2 things.
 
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