EXPreview: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 590 To Roll Out On March 22nd

[badb0y]

Alright so I started looking through Anandtech's review of the AMD 6990 and it looks like under load it consumes 491 watts (Stock config) vs 564 watts for a 6970. So that's like 13~% more power consumed by a 6970 crossfire versus 6990.

If we use the same ratio with the GTX 590 it's going to come to about 539~ watts load power consumption for a GTX 590 if they use slightly lower clocked cores. That's actually not that bad considering the AMD 6990 consumes 491 watts at load, we are looking at a difference of 40 watts so I think it's doable for nVidia.

The price is definitely going to make or break this card.

 

[SHAQ]

Nvidia is making it to compete with Amd. Pricing it at 1000 dollars is 200 dollars too high.

GTX 580 price cut to 399.00?

For that I might buy the 590 or a couple 580's. I think $800 might make it Ebay fodder though. I would be tempted to flip it for $200.


Edit: I see some 6990's on there for $900.

 

[Baasha]

2x GTX580s are prime candidates for 2560x1600 or more. The problem is GF100/110 architecture is severely handicapped in both RAM (only 1.5GB/GPU) and texture fill-rate departments compared to AMD. As a result, the 15-20% advantage that a single GTX580 has over a single HD6970 at 1920x1200 8AA is all but eroded to a measly 5% by the time you get to 2560x1600 8AA. Therefore, even if GTX590 ships with 2 full fledged GTX580 cores, it will still fall flat on its face compared to 2 unlocked HD6950s which only cost $520. Unless these cards have incredible overclocking headroom, what is the point exactly?

This round of dual-GPUs is just a marketing exercise / profit margin milking and nothing more.

Way to dampen the excitement!

The GTX-590 and the 6990 are cards for people using very HIGH resolutions and specifically surround gamers. Given the way the 6990 CrossFire dominates at high and ultra high resolutions, it would be idiotic of NVidia to design a chip that can't perform within a +/- 10% margin of the 6990. All of these cards can be reduced to "what's the point" one-liners however the beauty of it is that each person has his own likes and dislikes.

For example, I would go with quad GTX-580s in SLI, even the 3GB version but Palit is a company I won't even look at so that's out of the question. Since I want "quad" SLI or CrossFire, it's between the 590 and the 6990. I also want two PCI-E slots for my sound card and my RAID controller so my MoBo doesn't have 10 PCI-E slots, it has only 7!

Whichever performs the best at ultra-high resolutions (), I will buy two of them. For those wanting the best graphics solutions, it isn't a matter of "what's the point", it's a matter of "what's the best graphics solution out there".

 

[Baasha]

Edit: I see some 6990's on there for $900.

WTF? where? Unless it has aftermarket coolers.. there's no way a 6990 would be $900 USD.

 

[Baasha]

And, many people are saying this GTX-590 will be bundled with Crysis 2! LOL. and Crysis 2 at launch is not even DX11 capable.. epic fail...

 

[Castiel]

2x GTX580s are prime candidates for 2560x1600 or more. The problem is GF100/110 architecture is severely handicapped in both RAM (only 1.5GB/GPU) and texture fill-rate departments compared to AMD. As a result, the 15-20% advantage that a single GTX580 has over a single HD6970 at 1920x1200 8AA is all but eroded to a measly 5% by the time you get to 2560x1600 8AA. Therefore, even if GTX590 ships with 2 full fledged GTX580 cores, it will still fall flat on its face compared to 2 unlocked HD6950s which only cost $520. Unless these cards have incredible overclocking headroom, what is the point exactly?

This round of dual-GPUs is just a marketing exercise / profit margin milking and nothing more.

Remember to remind me never to invite you to a party russian. :biggrin:

 

[happy medium]

And, many people are saying this GTX-590 will be bundled with Crysis 2! LOL. and Crysis 2 at launch is not even DX11 capable.. epic fail...

What? if the gtx590 launches with a free 60$ game, thats adds to the value.

Imagine a 6990 for 710$ vs a gtx590 with a 60$ copy of Crysis 2 for 799$. That sounds preety good to me.

 

[happy medium]

2x GTX580s are prime candidates for 2560x1600 or more. The problem is GF100/110 architecture is severely handicapped in both RAM (only 1.5GB/GPU) and texture fill-rate departments compared to AMD. As a result, the 15-20% advantage that a single GTX580 has over a single HD6970 at 1920x1200 8AA is all but eroded to a measly 5% by the time you get to 2560x1600 8AA. Therefore, even if GTX590 ships with 2 full fledged GTX580 cores, it will still fall flat on its face compared to 2 unlocked HD6950s which only cost $520. Unless these cards have incredible overclocking headroom, what is the point exactly?

This round of dual-GPUs is just a marketing exercise / profit margin milking and nothing more.

people still bought the 700$ underclocked 5970 even though 2 overclocked 500$ 5850's would beat it. 200$ difference.
Nothing that different here.

2 520$ 6950's vs a 700$ underclocked 6990 ~ 200$ difference
2 600$ gtx570's vs a 800$ underclocked gtx590~ 200$ difference

Sounds about right.

 

[mnewsham]

What? if the gtx590 launches with a free 60$ game, thats adds to the value.

Imagine a 6990 for 710$ vs a gtx590 with a 60$ copy of Crysis 2 for 799$. That sounds preety good to me.

That wasn't the point. why would they ship a NON DX11 game (at launch) with a DX11 powerhouse?

 

[mnewsham]

people still bought the 700$ 5970 even though 2 overclocked 500$ 5850's would beat it. Nothing that different here.

Werent you complaining about the 6990 being ~$60 more then 2 6970's yesterday? D:

 

[Baasha]

What? if the gtx590 launches with a free 60$ game, thats adds to the value.

Imagine a 6990 for 710$ vs a gtx590 with a 60$ copy of Crysis 2 for 799$. That sounds preety good to me.

well I can see that makes sense from a consumer standpoint, I was talking about the choice of the game.. [flame suit on]... I am not a fan of Crysis at all.. [flame suit off] I will be playing L4D2, BF:BC2, CoD: BLOPS, Bulletstorm, Team Fortress 2 and of course, my favorite, Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots. LOL..

 

[happy medium]

That wasn't the point. why would they ship a NON DX11 game (at launch) with a DX11 powerhouse?

because everyone and there mother knows it will be patched to directx 11?

Mabe it will be a special edition with direct x 11 included for gtx590 buyers?

Makes no difference, a product launch with a top AAA game is allways a good thing.:thumbsup:

 

[Castiel]

Crysis sucks.. Yes i said it

 

[RussianSensation]

Remember to remind me never to invite you to a party russian. :biggrin:

Ok Ok, these will work great in Quad SLI

2 520$ 6950's vs a 700$ underclocked 6990 ~ 200$ difference
2 600$ gtx570's vs a 800$ underclocked gtx590~ 200$ difference

Sounds about right.

Actually it's in our best interest to encourage everyone to get these $700+ videocards. Extra $200 profit margins for NV/AMD means even better cards down the line as a result of boosted financial performance for both companies. In light of the shrinking discrete graphics market, AMD/NV are going to need our support. So yes, GTX590 and HD6990 have 2 big thumbs up from me!! *Platinum Innovation Award*

 

[happy medium]

Werent you complaining about the 6990 being ~$60 more then 2 6970's yesterday? D:

Sorry i think you missed my edit and my point..I never said it was right, but it follows the same pattern.


"People still bought the 700$ underclocked 5970 even though 2 overclocked 500$ 5850's would beat it. 200$ difference.
Nothing that different here.

2 520$ 6950's vs a 700$ underclocked 6990 ~ 200$ difference
2 600$ gtx570's vs a 800$ underclocked gtx590~ 200$ difference

Sounds about right. "

 

[Castiel]

Ok Ok, these will work great in Quad SLI

Alright your back in. Bring some hot Canadian women

 

[notty22]

I will wait for the reviews. The goal posts always move.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s/41404-amd-radeon-hd-6990-4gb-review-23.html

 

[-Slacker-]

Alright so I started looking through Anandtech's review of the AMD 6990 and it looks like under load it consumes 491 watts (Stock config) vs 564 watts for a 6970. So that's like 13~% more power consumed by a 6970 crossfire versus 6990.

If we use the same ratio with the GTX 590 it's going to come to about 539~ watts load power consumption for a GTX 590 if they use slightly lower clocked cores. That's actually not that bad considering the AMD 6990 consumes 491 watts at load, we are looking at a difference of 40 watts so I think it's doable for nVidia.

The price is definitely going to make or break this card.

Enter nitpicking nazi:

If 620w 580s sli eat up 13% percent more than a 590, then the 590 is a 549w card. Almost 60w more, or 45w overspec.

I still don't understand all this stuff about how the 2x8 pcie limit is irrelevant, and so I'm not really qualified to comment,but, you know, I'm just saying...

 

[RussianSensation]

Alright your back in. Bring some hot Canadian women

You'd have to be more specific. Which Canadian Ethnic group exactly? Not trying to ruin the party, just catering to your "top of the line" needs. I know you aren't fond of reference design.

 

[badb0y]

You'd have to be more specific. Which Canadian Ethnic group exactly? Not trying to ruin the party, just catering to your "top of the line" needs. I know you aren't fond of reference design.

We need hot ones and let them know we roll with 6990s and GTX 590s .

 

[waffleironhead]

I'm going to say it............

"I told you so"

Some more info.
quote:
"According to NVIDIA, the release day of GeForce GTX 590 falls on March 22nd. GeForce GTX 590 packs dual-GF110 core, features 1024 CUDA Core, 3GB GDDR5 memory, dual-8pin external power connectors and has TDP of 375W."

Wheres Grover!!!!!!

with the amount of sheer guessing you do, Id have been absolutely surprised if you weren't eventually right. congrats!

 

[mnewsham]

You'd have to be more specific. Which Canadian Ethnic group exactly? Not trying to ruin the party, just catering to your "top of the line" needs. I know you aren't fond of reference design.

Saulteaux please and thank you. My girlfriend is Saulteaux and i love it.

 

[Castiel]

You'd have to be more specific. Which Canadian Ethnic group exactly? Not trying to ruin the party, just catering to your "top of the line" needs. I know you aren't fond of reference design.

Doesn't matter to me. Just be tall with blonde/black hair and have big breasts.. No fatties

 

[Munky]

The only way it's gonna be dual gtx580's is with a triple slot dustbuster cooler and maybe an external power supply. Those 580's are hotter and hungrier than the AMD equivalent GPU.

 

[brybir]

Doesn't matter to me. Just be tall with blonde/black hair and have big breasts.. No fatties

I'd give up all three of those requirements as long as they were not fat. Well, okay, and not super short.

All I know is the transition from college to the "real world" was depressing for the above reason. College = tall, attractive or at least perhaps somewhat attractive women with the vibrancy of youth all over and who gave a shit about themselves. And even if they were short, they usually have other redeeming qualities.

Work = short, fat, and ugly women who are annoying and do not give a shit about themselves anymore. They often like to talk about their own children, who are probably also short, fat and ugly.


Wait, we were talking about video cards right, sort of got side tracked there. I dont remember the point of this thread anymore, but recall seeing Happy posting a bunch, so he is either attempting to take credit for something he predicted or arguing why something he said that was wrong was actually right, but its not clear whether that is the case here. I expect the obligatory post comparing his past posts to present and pointing out which of the above is true for him this time, and the required response and bickering, with a few people trying to stay on topic but giving up, and when we hit page 20, this thread will slowly crawl into the darkness and mercifully die like it should have within the first two pages...