'Explosive device' found in mail to Clintons' home

[dawp]

the one sent to Joe Biden makes nine

what if it's the russians trying to fix their screw-up from 2016, after all none have gone off yet.

 

[Bitek]

How does Trump respond to a mass right wing terrorist attack?

Blame "Fake News"...

What a piece of crap. Utterly lacking in humility or grace.

 

[K1052]

What a piece of shit.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What a piece of shit.

Here's MSM he'd like.



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THE WASHINGTON TIMES ›
Clinton, Obama, Soros and CNN mailings mark trail to civil war
CHERYL K. CHUMLEY OCTOBER 24, 2018
Officers with the Uniform Division of the United States Secret Service talk at a checkpoint near the home of President Barack Obama, Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2018, in Washington. The U.S. Secret Service says agents have intercepted packages containing
Officers with the Uniform Division of the United States Secret Service talk at a checkpoint near the home of President Barack Obama, Wednesday, Oct. 24, 2018, in Washington. The U.S. Secret Service says agents have intercepted packages containing "possible explosive devices" addressed to former President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

ANALYSIS/OPINION:
Federal authorities are investigating suspicious packages that were just sent to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama — and this is news that comes the same week it was reported a suspicious package containing a suspected bomb was sent to the residence of George Soros. CNN’s New York offices were cleared by authorities, as well, after a suspicious package was reportedly mailed to that studio.
And so the country moves a step closer to civil war. The incidences are trail markings on this path.
Let’s be clear: No matter who’s doing it — no matter which political party or ideology is as the source of it — violence, intimidation and the threat of violence and intimidation have no part to play in polite, civil political society.
But at the same time, one has to wonder: Is there a political vigilante out there, running about, bent on putting Democrats through the same sort of hotly charged partisan meat grinder the Republicans have been facing for some time? Or, as the most cynical of minds might suggest, is this part and parcel of the left’s political strategy — to send out one of its own to make it appear as if conservatives are just as nutty as they are? That’s just a new breed of evil right there.
Still, the left has been the source of most of the politically-tied violence this country has suffered these past months, nay years — think of all the MAGA hat-wearers attacked, verbally and physically, during 2015 and 2016 campaign times.
Have the Democrats called for peace? No. Anything but, in fact. And that’s led some political prognosticators to say for some time that America’s headed down a path of civil war.
To wit: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and her call for a summer of resistance.
Rep. Maxine Waters, and her demand that “get out and create a crowd” whenever they see “anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station.”
Hillary Clinton and her insistence that you “cannot be civil” with Republicans.
Eric Holder and his fiery rhetoric that “when they go low, we kick them,” followed by his fiery written words in the Washington Post that “we have to take on this president” and “we have to take on this Republican Party.”
It’s not as if these words have fallen on deaf leftist ears, either.
There’s been antifa in the streets; Black Lives Matter on the march; in-your-face confrontations at restaurants of Sens. Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz, and their families; a similar restaurant intimidation of White House spokesperson Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her family; the politically-laced shooting of Republican Rep. Steve Scalise; and more.
The stage for a conservative backlash of sorts has been set for some time.
And now we get this: “Secret Service intercepts suspicious packages sent to Obama, Hillary Clinton,” Fox News reported.
And this: “Feds investigating suspicious packages sent to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama,” CNBC wrote.
And this: “Explosive device found near home of billionaire investor George Soros.”
The Secret Service and other authorities intercepted the packages before any harm could occur.
But here’s the thing: These tactics of intimidation and criminality have no place in American politics.
America is a country of law, a nation of order, a government of limited scope that requires a moral populace to succeed. America is not a banana republic, basing its governing party on who has the loudest voice, who wields the largest bat — who brings the best bombs.
The doors to violence have been opened. The paths to civil war and internal strife have been cut.
Now it’s up to those with strong moral compasses, bold leadership and concern and care for the long-term for our nation to speak out and speak up and put a stop to the madness before it escalates to a point of no return.
Simply put, civil war will accomplish nothing but tear the fabric of this country beyond repair. And listen up, parents in particular: What will be rebuilt will look nothing like what Founding Fathers envisioned and everything like what lawless mob rule embraces."

 

[MomentsofSanity]

What a piece of shit.

That’s about the only words I had when I read that. Absolute subhuman garbage.

 

[ivwshane]

*puts on conspiracy hat

This sounds an awful lot like something Russia would do. The use of right wing memes kind of gives it away. Targeting all of the people on the "left" that trump has talked shit about. Having the packages come out of wassermanshults Office. None of the packages actually being successful in reaching their target. All of it seems a little too easy to point to trump and the right. All seems a little too easy for everyone to point their fingers at trump and the right.

So why would Russia do this? If I had to guess I'd say it was to send a message to trump and Republicans that if they don't do Russia's bidding they can and will use their capabilities to influence the elections, again (yes, I implied that Republicans are involved, not all but some).

How does this help Democrats? By creating a narrative that trump and his rhetoric has created a monster, a right wing monster that has gone too far and it needs to be put in check, the Democrats are that check. Its the same play Republicans use except instead of illegals or terrorists or the 100 million other bogeymen, its trump and the right.

*takes off conspiracy hat

 

[darkswordsman17]

'playing'
are you sure?

It can be both and I think very often is, in fact I see that behavior a lot in stupid people, because they're too stupid to realize that they aren't clever and that their stupid act isn't fooling anyone, just that other people let their stupidity slide because its not worth the effort to constantly deal with it and/or they've got other bigger issues to deal with.

 

[HomerJS]

*puts on conspiracy hat

This sounds an awful lot like something Russia would do. The use of right wing memes kind of gives it away. Targeting all of the people on the "left" that trump has talked shit about. Having the packages come out of wassermanshults Office. None of the packages actually being successful in reaching their target. All of it seems a little too easy to point to trump and the right. All seems a little too easy for everyone to point their fingers at trump and the right.

So why would Russia do this? If I had to guess I'd say it was to send a message to trump and Republicans that if they don't do Russia's bidding they can and will use their capabilities to influence the elections, again (yes, I implied that Republicans are involved, not all but some).

How does this help Democrats? By creating a narrative that trump and his rhetoric has created a monster, a right wing monster that has gone too far and it needs to be put in check, the Democrats are that check. Its the same play Republicans use except instead of illegals or terrorists or the 100 million other bogeymen, its trump and the right.

*takes off conspiracy hat

Not unreasonable except one thing. Any competent President could have thwarted this by...
Address the nation. Call for the lowering of the hostile rhetoric, starting with himself.

Stop blaming others take responsibility for today's increased hostile climate.

Invite former Presidents into the White House for a moment of healing. Announce he will lead by example

In that order.

Because we have Trump the United states is vulnerable to this kind of attack.

 

[darkswordsman17]

*puts on conspiracy hat

This sounds an awful lot like something Russia would do. The use of right wing memes kind of gives it away. Targeting all of the people on the "left" that trump has talked shit about. Having the packages come out of wassermanshults Office. None of the packages actually being successful in reaching their target. All of it seems a little too easy to point to trump and the right. All seems a little too easy for everyone to point their fingers at trump and the right.

So why would Russia do this? If I had to guess I'd say it was to send a message to trump and Republicans that if they don't do Russia's bidding they can and will use their capabilities to influence the elections, again (yes, I implied that Republicans are involved, not all but some).

How does this help Democrats? By creating a narrative that trump and his rhetoric has created a monster, a right wing monster that has gone too far and it needs to be put in check, the Democrats are that check. Its the same play Republicans use except instead of illegals or terrorists or the 100 million other bogeymen, its trump and the right.

*takes off conspiracy hat

Actually I'd say this is more about amplifying Turmp's "fake news!!!" cries, where they find out it wasn't right wingers so they claim that the liberals were all paranoid and making shit up to try and galvanize conservatives to vote ("see they've been lying the whole time about Turmp, get out and vote to keep them from getting to complete their witch hunt and burn him at the stake!").

Plus, its a pretty clear threat to the people they were sent to, even if they weren't real (have a hunch one of them will turn out to be real though, but it'll probably be some obscure person that seems to have no link to these others, but it'll be similar enough that it'll be a "we could have if we wanted to" type of situation to try and scare liberals from speaking up more).

I won't be surprised if there's some pretty implicit threats made towards polling places, that will target liberals on social media and liberal oriented sites. And conservatives will go "I didn't get one!" or "I didn't see that" and it'll reinforce the fake news rhetoric from conservatives. Plus it'll fuel conservatives beliefs that they're super badasses and will use that to mock "scaredy liberals" and just the usual 1st grade playground mentality of conservatives.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Not unreasonable except one thing. Any competent President could have thwarted this by...
Address the nation. Call for the lowering of the hostile rhetoric, starting with himself.

Stop blaming others take responsibility for today's increased hostile climate.

Invite former Presidents into the White House for a moment of healing. Announce he will lead by example

In that order.

Because we have Trump the United states is vulnerable to this kind of attack.

All he had to do was decry it and not stir the pot with bullshit, and sick the FBI on sorting out who was doing it. He couldn't even do that. The bar is set about as low as possible and he finds way to shit on the bar and then lower himself under it to swallow his own shit just so he can crap it back out.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

All he had to do was decry it and not stir the pot with bullshit, and sick the FBI on sorting out who was doing it. He couldn't even do that. The bar is set about as low as possible and he finds way to shit on the bar and then lower himself under it to swallow his own shit just so he can crap it back out.

If you watch his speech from the rally last night he spoke of "civility" in general terms but everything he complained about was what he himself feels he is the victim of. The man is a complete narcissist. Then this morning he has this completely detached rant blaming the media for his incivility. I guess by reporting his words they are at fault.

 

[FIVR]

the one sent to Joe Biden makes nine

what if it's the russians trying to fix their screw-up from 2016, after all none have gone off yet.

These bombs are something a Russian would think of doing however a Russian would make the bombs actually explode. The fact that not a single one of these bombs actually worked makes me think it is likely the work of some American Trump supporter.

However, the fact that all the bombs had the addresses spelled correctly says it might not be a Trump supporter.

 

[SlowSpyder]

What a piece of shit.

He's not wrong. Today the news, whether it be Fox, CNN, NBC, PBS, etc. etc. are little more than mouth pieces for their favored brand of politics. Lying with truth a lot of the time. They know their audiences, they are run like entertainment companies. They highlight certain stories and put spin on so much, and most of them happen to have an anti-Trump / anti-right spin. People ARE tired of it.

 

[darkswordsman17]

If you watch his speech from the rally last night he spoke of "civility" in general terms but everything he complained about was what he himself feels he is the victim of. The man is a complete narcissist. Then this morning he has this completely detached rant blaming the media for his incivility. I guess by reporting his words they are at fault.

Yep. I just laugh anytime I see people claim that Turmp is really strong. He's the biggest whining crybaby bitch I've ever seen. I honestly would love to see him pull his gun, he'd blow his own dick off before accidentally shooting Ivanka. And he'd probably be doing it in response to some 80 year old wheelchair bound grandmother for calling him out and slapping his jowls.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Have you guys seen the packages that were sent? There would be no way any sane person would expect these NOT to be screened. I'm not saying I know who sent these, but it makes me wonder.

 

[Thump553]

I got a kick out of watching both Pence's and The Donald's reactions to these bombings. Pence addressed it while at a GOP fundraiser and gave a rather normal, reasonable and fairly impassioned argument against political violence in the USA. The Donald, OTOH, gave his message from the White House podium. If you read his speech it seemed reasonable and rational. Actually listening to it gives another completely different impression-Donald delivered his message in his kidnap victim style, where he is reading a message he obviously disagrees with but is being forced to deliver against his will.

Trump had another of his pep rallies last night-did he address this issue then and how so?

By all appearances one of Trump's major goals is to tear this country apart-probably so he can cherry pick at the remaining assets for a pittance. As for the mainstream GOP politicians, they have one and all universally displayed absolutely no moral integrity or principles.

 

[fskimospy]

What a piece of shit.

If anyone somehow still needed a reason to vote for Democrats this should do it. Trump is blaming the media for conservatives attempting to murder them.

What total human trash he is. At this rate he is giving James Buchanan a run for his money as the worst president in history.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I got a kick out of watching both Pence's and The Donald's reactions to these bombings. Pence addressed it while at a GOP fundraiser and gave a rather normal, reasonable and fairly impassioned argument against political violence in the USA. The Donald, OTOH, gave his message from the White House podium. If you read his speech it seemed reasonable and rational. Actually listening to it gives another completely different impression-Donald delivered his message in his kidnap victim style, where he is reading a message he obviously disagrees with but is being forced to deliver against his will.

Trump had another of his pep rallies last night-did he address this issue then and how so?

By all appearances one of Trump's major goals is to tear this country apart-probably so he can cherry pick at the remaining assets for a pittance. As for the mainstream GOP politicians, they have one and all universally displayed absolutely no moral integrity or principles.

I posted the video a few pages back, I think you're projecting here. He seemed measured and stern in his stance. I don't see it as you seem to.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Have you guys seen the packages that were sent? There would be no way any sane person would expect these NOT to be screened. I'm not saying I know who sent these, but it makes me wonder.

Wait. Are you suggesting the person who sent bombs in the mail to several prominent people might not be stable?

Shocking!

 

[fskimospy]

Have you guys seen the packages that were sent? There would be no way any sane person would expect these NOT to be screened. I'm not saying I know who sent these, but it makes me wonder.

It’s pretty amazing watching conservatives convince themselves that this was all a set up.

Nothing is impossible but the overwhelmingly likely answer is that the bombs were made for exactly what it looks like. Also, if they were made to be caught in screening why was the first in Soros’s mailbox?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I posted the video a few pages back, I think you're projecting here. He seemed measured and stern in his stance. I don't see it as you seem to.

He took measured back with his tweet as he failed to own his responsibility. It's always someone else's fault.

 

[HomerJS]

Response from former CIA Director John Brennan to Trump

Stop blaming others. Look in the mirror. Your inflammatory rhetoric, insults, lies, & encouragement of physical violence are disgraceful. Clean up your act....try to act Presidential. The American people deserve much better. BTW, your critics will not be intimidated into silence.

 

[SlowSpyder]

It’s pretty amazing watching conservatives convince themselves that this was all a set up.

Nothing is impossible but the overwhelmingly likely answer is that the bombs were made for exactly what it looks like. Also, if they were made to be caught in screening why was the first in Soros’s mailbox?

One out of how many got through? It very well could be exactly what it looks like, I'd even say it is more likely to be what it is. But I don't think a false flag attack is so so far outside of the real of possibility either. At any rate, I do hope the find whoever is responsible and throw the book at them. As much as I dislike many of the intended targets, I don't think this is how we should go about solving our differences. I hope this doesn't escalate.

 

[HomerJS]

I posted the video a few pages back, I think you're projecting here. He seemed measured and stern in his stance. I don't see it as you seem to.

Here's the point all you Trump supports fail to see.

What is his M.O. when communicating to the country. Everything is about him. I have the best________. I know more then _________. I alone can solve anything.

However all he can say about our current climate, you people need to come together and its the media's fault.

Has he at any time taken any level of responsibility for the current climate?
Has he at any time vowed to change his own tone?

 

[SlowSpyder]

He took measured back with his tweet as he failed to own his responsibility. It's always someone else's fault.

Yes, and I agree with Trump, it IS someone else's fault that this happened. Trump did not create this, someone off their rocker did.