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Yes, and I agree with Trump, it IS someone else's fault that this happened. Trump did not create this, someone off their rocker did.
Someone else sent the devices. That's not what is being discussed here. What is being discussed is the tone and tenor of the discourse and Trump ABSOLUTELY is to blame here more than any one individual or institution. He isn't the sole person but as the fucking POTUS he bears more responsibility than anyone on the planet to be civil and measured with everything he says at all times.
 
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Denly

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He's not wrong. Today the news, whether it be Fox, CNN, NBC, PBS, etc. etc. are little more than mouth pieces for their favored brand of politics. Lying with truth a lot of the time. They know their audiences, they are run like entertainment companies. They highlight certain stories and put spin on so much, and most of them happen to have an anti-Trump / anti-right spin. People ARE tired of it.

Trump Lying and spinning just as much if not more.
 

SlowSpyder

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Someone else sent the devices. That's not what is being discussed here. What is being discussed is the tone and tenor of the discourse and Trump ABSOLUTELY is to blame here more than any one individual or institution. He isn't the sole person but as the fucking POTUS he bears more responsibility than anyone on the planet to be civil and measured with everything he says at all times.

I can't say I agree. I think we get the government we deserve. When you see how the left behaves these days, is it that big of a shock that someone like Trump rose to counter it?
 

Viper1j

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I wonder if the agencies have considered the possibility, that Tromp embracing Nazi-ism by his acknowledgment of being a white nationalist, was a coded message to someone to plant these bombs.
 

SlowSpyder

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I wonder if the agencies have considered the possibility, that Tromp embracing Nazi-ism by his acknowledgment of being a white nationalist, was a coded message to someone to plant these bombs.

You probably just cracked the case. Have you called the FBI?
 
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I can't say I agree. I think we get the government we deserve. When you see how the left behaves these days, is it that big of a shock that someone like Trump rose to counter it?
Oh fuck off with your bullshit. Look inward for a change. Quit blaming "the other side" for once. I can counter anything you post with a long list of examples from "your team".

But this is the problem. Everyone blames the other side. No one is willing to look objectively at themselves and those they agree with. It's all them them them. They are the bad ones. We only do this because they do that. Grow the fuck up.
 
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Yes, and I agree with Trump, it IS someone else's fault that this happened. Trump did not create this, someone off their rocker did.

Trump did create this. Every time he declared the media the "enemy of the people," and tolerated or even encouraged violence against the media; every time he remained fixated on Clinton and Obama as scapegoats; every time he hurled a childish insult at Maxine Waters or Robert DeNiro; every time he tolerated George Soros conspiracy theories that falsely claimed the left was orchestrating fake protests or voter fraud.

Instead of constantly passing the buck like you always do, accept the truth that Trump's antagonizing rhetoric pushes fringe people to commit acts like this, and that one of the solutions would be for Trump to actually, you know, respect people who don't immediately fawn over him.
 
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Thebobo

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He's not wrong. Today the news, whether it be Fox, CNN, NBC, PBS, etc. etc. are little more than mouth pieces for their favored brand of politics. Lying with truth a lot of the time. They know their audiences, they are run like entertainment companies. They highlight certain stories and put spin on so much, and most of them happen to have an anti-Trump / anti-right spin. People ARE tired of it.


Bull shit don't try that both sides bullshit here.

Show me a recent story that trump says is fake on PBS NBC CNN ABC CBS and that hasn't been retracted and be specific.
 

HomerJS

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He's not wrong. Today the news, whether it be Fox, CNN, NBC, PBS, etc. etc. are little more than mouth pieces for their favored brand of politics. Lying with truth a lot of the time. They know their audiences, they are run like entertainment companies. They highlight certain stories and put spin on so much, and most of them happen to have an anti-Trump / anti-right spin. People ARE tired of it.
So you think the media lies more then Trump? You could never prove that.
You just pulled the classic Trump projection. Taking your own characteristics and labeling others.

There is a lot of bad news on Trump because Trump generates his own bad news. Quoting what he says is not biased reporting.

I'll give you a chance to play media boss for a second. Its your contention that the media makes up negative stories about Trump. Ok, you are in charge. Trump's first presser he sends out Spicy to proclaim his inauguration had the highest attendance in history which makes it a story.

How to you report it?
 

zinfamous

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Yes, and I agree with Trump, it IS someone else's fault that this happened. Trump did not create this, someone off their rocker did.

It's your fault this happened. It's the fault of your poisoned seed and those that you consort with.

It's your fault because you refuse to address the plain truth that is visible to everyone else. Fuck off.
 

SlowSpyder

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Bull shit don't try that both sides bullshit here.

Show me a recent story that trump says is fake on PBS NBC CNN ABC CBS and that hasn't been retracted and be specific.

My favorite example is Trump feeding the gold fish in Japan. If you don't think that the leftist media didn't go out of their way to try and make him look bad over nothing, then you're not living in reality.
 

umbrella39

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And look how the one functioning sock puppet is here carrying water and supports the media being attacked or even killed... self identified victims turn a blind eye when real victims are attacked. Ignore this piece of shit. He'll be forced to pull another attention whoring sock puppet out. Notice how only one ever gets their mouth working at any given time....
 

Thebobo

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My favorite example is Trump feeding the gold fish in Japan. If you don't think that the leftist media didn't go out of their way to try and make him look bad over nothing, then you're not living in reality.

Maybe proved a link because I don't know of this goldfishgate you are talking about.
 

fskimospy

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Bull shit don't try that both sides bullshit here.

Show me a recent story that trump says is fake on PBS NBC CNN ABC CBS and that hasn't been retracted and be specific.

This is Trump's goal and Spidey has swallowed the con hook, line, and sinker. Trump's plan is not to make the average person think that he is more trustworthy than the news, I'm sure even he has some vague idea that the entire country knows he's a pathological liar. His goal is to make you throw up your hands in frustration and say you don't know who you can trust.
 

HomerJS

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My favorite example is Trump feeding the gold fish in Japan. If you don't think that the leftist media didn't go out of their way to try and make him look bad over nothing, then you're not living in reality.
WTF. Goldfish? I never saw that story and I follow this shit.

You making stuff up again? Wouldn't be the first time.
 

fskimospy

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My favorite example is Trump feeding the gold fish in Japan. If you don't think that the leftist media didn't go out of their way to try and make him look bad over nothing, then you're not living in reality.

And then the media came out and corrected itself. A credible news organization is not one that never gets things wrong, it's one that acknowledges its mistakes and fixes them.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...es-something-fishy-about-that-trump-abe-photo

This is unlike conservative media which generally ignores what it gets wrong or willfully distorts and this is especially unlike Trump, who simply lies when confronted with mistakes or distortions.

This is why the media you deride as 'liberal' is respected around the world and why Trump and conservative media are considered jokes.
 

HomerJS

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I can't think of one "mainstream" media story that was a blatant lie about Trump. I can think of mistakes like the missing MLK bust from the Oval and the media corrected the error.

Can anyone name a blatantly false media story that rises to the level of...

birtherism
3 million fraudulent votes
Spy hired by Obama to tap Trump's phones?

In fact I'll take anything where the mainstream media ran a story which was a lie about Trump. Name it and we can discuss.
 
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And look how the one functioning sock puppet is here carrying water and supports the media being attacked or even killed... self identified victims turn a blind eye when real victims are attacked. Ignore this piece of shit. He'll be forced to pull another attention whoring sock puppet out. Notice how only one ever gets their mouth working at any given time....

The cow Sanders was just on tv, trying to make it the media's fault. There was a time when I thought she was just stuck, trying to do a job after Spicer bailed on her.

That was until I realized she had no soul. she reminds me of the succubus from South Park.

Anybody here have $3.50?
 

HomerJS

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