'Explosive device' found in mail to Clintons' home

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zinfamous

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It hasn't seemed to slow down the democrats either.

explain the "alternative facts" that you so dearly believe that democrats hold on to.

Put up or shut up, baby. Don't just toss an empty turd out there and expect people to think you have any real specifics that you can proudly point to.

Defend your thinking, or just wuss out like you always do.
 

SlowSpyder

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What's going to be the most annoying is if it is some false flag thing because then you know all the conservatives who have been promoting that theory based on zero evidence are going to claim vindication while everyone else who attempted to apply reasoned, nonpartisan judgment will have to listen to it. At no point will they admit their idea was entirely based on wishful partisan thinking.


Did anyone say that this is a false flag here? I'm sure there are voices out there making the claim for the reasons you cite, but have only seen it brought up as a possibility here, which is reasonable. I am not saying this is a false flag, but to me, those packages look like they were either meant to be found or the person that sent them is incredibly inept. Does anyone think that's what Debbie Wasserman-Schultz would use for a return label? A crudely cut out print out slathered with tape.
 

zinfamous

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Calling for someone to be jailed is not calling for them to be bombed via mail, is it? Seems to me that would be the exact opposite of looking for vigilante justice.

So your defense of the fascism that you prefer here is that it "really isn't the worst kind of fascism?" That "someone" is a political opponent, with not a single shred of legitimate evidence linking them to any kind of criminal activity. None. That is a fucking fact. Full Stop.

Calling for a political opponent to be jailed, with or without cause, is the rallying cry of a despot. It is fascism, and you fucking embrace it. Fuck off, you US-hating fascist dickburger.
 
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allisolm

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They're towing his vehicle from in front of the Auto Zone in Plantation, FL, which is a white van covered with stickers, signs, decals etc., but I can't read any of them. Wish I could.
 

SlowSpyder

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So your defense of the fascism that you prefer here is that it "really isn't the worst kind of fascism?" That "someone" is a political opponent, with not a single shred of legitimate evidence linking them to any kind of criminal activity. None. That is a fucking fact. Full Stop.

Calling for a political opponent to be jailed, with or without cause, is the rallying cry of a despot. It is fascism, and you fucking embrace it. Fuck off, you US-hating fascist dickburger.


No, that's not fascism. You routinely display your lack of intelligence for all the world to see. Tell me, does it ever get tiring being dead wrong because you only think on overdriven leftist emotion? You are an an evangelical, not a reasonable person.
 

Thebobo

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Picture of hillary on the side according to an anchor. We all know it a crazy right wing wacko. Or as they would say a plant. ~
 

Bitek

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They're towing his vehicle which is a white van covered withe stickers, signs, decals etc., but I can't read any of them. Wish I could.

Covered in Trump stickers and a giant Trump picture and presidential seal.

Can we call Trump inspiring terrorists yet?

What's the threshold (for a non-Muslim, of course.)
 

zinfamous

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No, that's not fascism. You routinely display your lack of intelligence for all the world to see. Tell me, does it ever get tiring being dead wrong because you only think on overdriven leftist emotion? You are an an evangelical, not a reasonable person.

That is exactly fascism. But you are an illiterate twat, so your direct assertion against a known, historical truth surprises no one.
 

K1052

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Covered in Trump stickers and a giant Trump picture and presidential seal

At least from the not super clear screen caps looks like a lot of pics of Trump himself.

Still remains unclear but just judging from the sheer volume of shit on that van the dude has issues.
 

Commodus

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Did anyone say that this is a false flag here? I'm sure there are voices out there making the claim for the reasons you cite, but have only seen it brought up as a possibility here, which is reasonable. I am not saying this is a false flag, but to me, those packages look like they were either meant to be found or the person that sent them is incredibly inept. Does anyone think that's what Debbie Wasserman-Schultz would use for a return label? A crudely cut out print out slathered with tape.

To paraphrase the saying: never attribute to conspiracy what can be explained by incompetence. The kind of person who's so irrational as to want to kill people for disagreeing with Trump is the sort who probably won't think about covering their tracks.

Oh, and surprise: the suspect is a die-hard Trump supporter.
 
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fskimospy

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Did anyone say that this is a false flag here? I'm sure there are voices out there making the claim for the reasons you cite, but have only seen it brought up as a possibility here, which is reasonable. I am not saying this is a false flag, but to me, those packages look like they were either meant to be found or the person that sent them is incredibly inept. Does anyone think that's what Debbie Wasserman-Schultz would use for a return label? A crudely cut out print out slathered with tape.

I didn’t say anyone on here has made that claim, although plenty are entertaining it more than is warranted.

I’m talking about conservative media with people far more important than anyone here. Their behavior about these bombs has been a disgrace.
 

HomerJS

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Do you remember the thread I started about about school shootings? How the media counted things that were not school shootings to lie and slander pro-2A views?

Not the video I was looking for, but related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Apbz5_Wc0
We are discussing the media lying about Trump which was your claim.

Whatever media that may have slanted shooting statistics and whatever media exaggerates voter fraud statistics is a separate topic.
 

Bitek

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Lots of pictures of Trump, looks like some wanted posters too, maybe one with Hillary.
 

SlowSpyder

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We are discussing the media lying about Trump which was your claim.

Whatever media that may have slanted shooting statistics and whatever media exaggerates voter fraud statistics is a separate topic.

Isn't "slanted" another word for lying? The 2A is tightly associated with the right these days and the media lied about it. I gave you a story already about the media plainly creating a false narrative about Trump with the koi pond.
 

HomerJS

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Isn't "slanted" another word for lying? The 2A is tightly associated with the right these days and the media lied about it. I gave you a story already about the media plainly creating a false narrative about Trump with the koi pond.
I already refuted the koi pond thing. CNN article stated Abe dumped his food first.
 

Jaskalas

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Read your own post that I responded to:

I know what I posted, it is in regards to what I've read here. Do not confuse P&N for the world at large.

The hyper partisan posters disavowing Schumer for not breathing fire with inflammatory rhetoric. How dare he not equal Trump?!
You do not beat Trump by becoming Trump.