'Explosive device' found in mail to Clintons' home

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HomerJS

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SlowSpyder said:
If he did criminal things, it would have been fair to paint him as a criminal, no? Clinton almost assuredly has done criminal things. Don't be upset at those that call out criminal activity, but upset at those that act as criminals. Clinton was ̶e̶x̶t̶r̶e̶m̶e̶l̶y̶ ̶c̶a̶r̶e̶l̶e̶s̶s̶ grossly negligent, remember? The media DOES lie about Trump and attack him. When someone is a criminal or lies, we don't advocate bombing them. Blaming Trump for this is the left doing what the left does best... anything in the world happens, how can we blame Trump?
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You have yet to name one lie. Still waiting. I mean mainstream media not some Democratic blog. And I don't mean a mistake for which they immediately correct (MLK bust)
 
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HomerJS said:
Tailgating off this

Over the top ISIS flag - This has the smell of someone not totally familiar with a demographics way of speaking. That "get 'er done" is a little too over the top stereotypical, something an ESL person would use because they went online or a media outlet looking to mimic a Trump supporter. I have experience with a foreign born person concocting a lie trying to blame it on a "typical white person".

Bomber didn't mean to kill but intimidate

I'm going with a foreign actor, likely Russia. What better way to send a message to Trump. "Listen fuckface better make more headway with our agenda or we can turn on you, effecting the election against you". Until that Magnitsky Act and all sanctions are removed Putin will keep up pressure on Trump.

Russia wouldn't dare kill a high profile person like an ex-President because if it pointed back to them it would be all out war and they don't want that.
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Yeah, this is starting to play out like a mix tape. This is not some unhinged loon. This is clearly coordinated and designed to send a message and impact the midterms. Who is sending the message and why is TBD.
 
allisolm

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MomentsofSanity said:
Also read this morning they believe it's someone residing in the 23rd district in Florida which is DWS district. They have to be narrowing in now.
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Are you talking about "someone" as being the sender of the pkgs? If so, I haven't seen that information, and can't find it, anywhere. Do you have a link?
 
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The Liar in Chief is up early this morning:

Trump on Twitter (3:14am)

Funny how lowly rated CNN, and others, can criticize me at will, even blaming me for the current spate of Bombs and ridiculously comparing this to September 11th and the Oklahoma City bombing, yet when I criticize them they go wild and scream, “it’s just not Presidential!”

At 3 AM it occurred to the president that it is unfair that the press criticizes the president, but the president doesn't criticize the press, as if that isn't how this whole thing is actually supposed to work. I keep having to remind myself that this is the actual president of the United States. Amazing..

Yes, it's terrible how people expect the President of the United States to act like a grownup. So unfair
 
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fskimospy

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VRAMdemon said:
The Liar in Chief is up early this morning:

Trump on Twitter (3:14am)

Funny how lowly rated CNN, and others, can criticize me at will, even blaming me for the current spate of Bombs and ridiculously comparing this to September 11th and the Oklahoma City bombing, yet when I criticize them they go wild and scream, “it’s just not Presidential!”

At 3 AM it occurred to the president that it is unfair that the press criticizes the president, but the president doesn't criticize the press, as if that isn't how this whole thing is actually supposed to work. I keep having to remind myself that this is the actual president of the United States. Amazing..

Yes, it's terrible how people expect the President of the United States to act like a grownup. So unfair
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The president seems very upset that he's supposed to act like the president.
 
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HomerJS said:
You have yet to name one lie. Still waiting. I mean mainstream media not some Democratic blog. And I don't mean a mistake for which they immediately correct (MLK bust)
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Do you remember the thread I started about about school shootings? How the media counted things that were not school shootings to lie and slander pro-2A views?

Not the video I was looking for, but related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Apbz5_Wc0
 
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MomentsofSanity said:
It can lead to violence when you spend years at the head of screaming mobs of people demanding she face justice only to have nothing happen. You're a fucking idiot if you don't see that.

Well.. you already are but this just reinforces that.
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It's Amazing how our Lunatic in Chief and his disciples do not except his behavior is toxic and promotes violence..

If someone in an influential position is advocating violence against journalists. then they're advocating violence against journalists. If anyone takes them up on that suggestion, to whatever degree, then that influential person holds some of the blame.

If you told sixty million people to pick a fight with a journalist, it is absolutely certain some crazy will take that as meaning guns and bombs. Tell one person you know too pick a fight and you're probably okay; even ten people, twenty people, and it's unlikely you are going to find a crazed bomber. Sixty million and the likelihood some will be homicidal maniacs is, statistically, very high. When the President of the United States of America says "thats my kinda guy who hurts journalists," some people are going to hear "kill and maim." And Trump damn well should know that.
 
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Fuck you fuckface. People will eventually be harmed or die and it's his fault.
 
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MomentsofSanity said:
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-ne-bombs-opalocka-mail-20181025-story.html

They were investigating a mail facility in Opa-Locka which is just outside the 23rd. I believe the other item I read which I can't find was they suspected it originated in the 23rd.
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Yeah, I knew they were looking at the sorting facility there, but not that they necessarily thought the "bomber" was from there, but CNN now seems to be indicating that. I guess we'll see as time goes on.
 
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An arrest has been made.

That's according to CNN.

If it holds up, that was fast work. Kudos to them.
 
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UNCjigga said:
Pretty much just Trump screaming "IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!"
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"And so far they're all duds. I like bombs that go off!"

A few days ago Trump and Pence were saying that ANY political violence is unacceptable, but now the president is basically calling the other party 'dangerous'.

This man has proven himself completely incapable of dealing with any sort of criticism or accepting any responsibility for doing the sort of actions we need in times of crisis. The man is disgusting..
 
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Supposed to be some Department of Justice press conference at 2:30. Maybe that will give us the lowdown.
 
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What's going to be the most annoying is if it is some false flag thing because then you know all the conservatives who have been promoting that theory based on zero evidence are going to claim vindication while everyone else who attempted to apply reasoned, nonpartisan judgment will have to listen to it. At no point will they admit their idea was entirely based on wishful partisan thinking.
 
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fskimospy said:
While I agree that no one should be saying they know the perpetrator conclusively we can always apply Occam’s Razor to this. Someone sending people bombs because he doesn’t like them is the simplest explanation and therefore the most likely one. Until evidence to the contrary arises I think it is most reasonable to operate on this assumption.

It’s frankly bizarre that conservative media is letting loose this blizzard of conspiracy theories. Infowars seems to be taking over the normal conservative propaganda outlets.
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I remember how it was considered lunacy to speculate that the assault on the congressional baseball game could be anything but a lunatic liberal. LoL. remember that? No howls about "jumping to conclusions" from the conservative howlers about who could possibly be responsible for that one.
 
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