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Explosion in central Oslo, Norwegian Primeminister's Office was hit.

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There are now reports emerging of shots being fired at a children's summer camp in Norway as well.

Edit update: being reported as Utoya island with authorities en route. Suspect dressed in police uniform. Wtf.
 
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MomentsofSanity said:
There are now reports emerging of shots being fired at a children's summer camp in Norway as well.

Edit update: being reported as Utoya island with authorities en route. Wtf.
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Muslim Terrorists have said this is how they're going to carry out attacks similar to Mumbai.

AP is reporting shooter is guy in police uniform.
 
PingviN said:
Time to invade a Middle Eastern country.
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You can mock the US but it doesn't protect Scandinavians from criticism. (And I was always against the Iraq war.)

The Scandinavians are always so smug about the aggressive US being responsible for Muslim terrorist attacks and act like they treat minorities better when they only have microscopic minority populations. Recent Muslim attacks in Scandinavia show that your smugness is not warranted. Look around the world and you see that Muslims attack most foreign cultures they come into contact with (India, Russia, Europe, etc.)
 
Not much of a muslim terrorist attack. The USA kills and injures more than that with a simple Hellfire attack from a drone.
 
Infohawk said:
You can mock the US but it doesn't protect Scandinavians from criticism. (And I was always against the Iraq war.)

The Scandinavians are always so smug about the aggressive US being responsible for Muslim terrorist attacks and act like they treat minorities better when they only have microscopic minority populations. Recent Muslim attacks in Scandinavia show that your smugness is not warranted. Look around the world and you see that Muslims attack most foreign cultures they come into contact with (India, Russia, Europe, etc.)
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Only the Swedes are smug about the warmongering, both Norway and Denmark are active parts of Nato and there is a lot more US support coming from them.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we wouldn't have these terror attacks had Afghanistan and Iraq been left alone. Oh, and the leaving troops in Saudi Arabia was a bad idea too. You mess with enough people, some will be bat-shit crazy enough to blow themselves up. Leave them alone and they'll mind their own business. I understand a lot of Americans don't share this point of view and I'm not expecting them too either. My sympathies are with our neighbors, though I fear this will stir up peoples xenophobia.
 
Sadly we may need 4 or 5 more of these types of attacks before Europe wakes up to the Islamic terrorism problem.

They do everything they can to appease these people and they still launch attacks and kill innocent people... perhaps we aren't dealing with rational people...
 
Leaving Afghanistan alone? Please, would want nothing more. But you forget that it was the Taliban who attacked US first.
 
PingviN said:
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we wouldn't have these terror attacks had Afghanistan and Iraq been left alone. Oh, and the leaving troops in Saudi Arabia was a bad idea too. You mess with enough people, some will be bat-shit crazy enough to blow themselves up. Leave them alone and they'll mind their own business.
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And don't forget not to insult Islam or draw Mohammed cartoons either! Sorry, but you're view of Islamic fundies is naive and has been proven wrong by these repeated attacks in all Scandinavian countries, including Sweden.
 
ProfJohn said:
Sadly we may need 4 or 5 more of these types of attacks before Europe wakes up to the Islamic terrorism problem.

They do everything they can to appease these people and they still launch attacks and kill innocent people... perhaps we aren't dealing with rational people...
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Yeah, speaking of appeasement, this is right on point:

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/722

I guess apologizing doesn't work too well with Islamic fundies...
 
Infohawk said:
You can mock the US but it doesn't protect Scandinavians from criticism. (And I was always against the Iraq war.)

The Scandinavians are always so smug about the aggressive US being responsible for Muslim terrorist attacks and act like they treat minorities better when they only have microscopic minority populations. Recent Muslim attacks in Scandinavia show that your smugness is not warranted. Look around the world and you see that Muslims attack most foreign cultures they come into contact with (India, Russia, Europe, etc.)
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Denmark has more troops and casualties per capita than any other NATO country in Afghanistan. same situation in Iraq before we pulled out.

Infohawk said:
And don't forget not to insult Islam or draw Mohammed cartoons either! Sorry, but you're view of Islamic fundies is naive and has been proven wrong by these repeated attacks in all Scandinavian countries, including Sweden.
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it was a Danish cartoonist that drew the mohammed Drawings, which I'm proud of, Norway and Sweden shouldn't take flak for that.
 
6.09pm: NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.
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I'm shocked. This is my shocked face. 😱
 
Infohawk said:
And don't forget not to insult Islam or draw Mohammed cartoons either! Sorry, but you're view of Islamic fundies is naive and has been proven wrong by these repeated attacks in all Scandinavian countries, including Sweden.
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See, we've drawn Muhammed caricatures before 9/11 and guess what, NOTHING happened. Published in several large newspaper and nothing. Not a word. No flag burning in the streets, no attempted murder, nothing.
But in 2007, all of a sudden, you are not allowed to draw them in the Nordics anymore. Now flags are getting burned, ax-armed crazies tries to kill artists, etc. Gee, I wonder what happened between the last time and 2007... You want to make a guess?

epidemis said:
Leaving Afghanistan alone? Please, would want nothing more. But you forget that it was the Taliban who attacked US first.
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You seem to forget the US left troops in Saudi Arabia, Muslim holy land, after the war in Kuwait was over. Guess who the fundamentalists believe to be the aggressors. You seem to forget 9/11 wasn't the first event in this.
 
Broheim said:
Denmark has more troops and casualties per capita than any other NATO country in Afghanistan. same situation in Iraq before we pulled out.



it was a Danish cartoonist that drew the mohammed Drawings, which I'm proud of, Norway and Sweden shouldn't take flak for that.
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I am not sure what your point about my posts are but Norway has also published cartoons and Sweden has been attacked too, so your attempts at distinguishing between the various Scandinavian countries aren't that useful.
 
NRK is reporting that an unknown group called "Helpers of the Global Jihad" have posted a message that this is only the beginning of the reaction to Norwegian periodicals publishing the Muhammed cartoons, according to Andrew Boyle, a journalist in Norway.
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That from http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/jul/22/oslo-explosion-live-coverage



And as for you apologists and appeasers thinking we caused this, well there you go. Cower in fear and change who you are, hell just convert. Maybe that'll stop it too.
 
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Know what happens when we assume. We make an ass out of you and me. And I feel ashamed that I was guilty of it myself.

I hope the families of the dead can find some solace and peace somwhere, somehow, after this.
 
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PingviN said:
See, we've drawn Muhammed caricatures before 9/11 and guess what, NOTHING happened. Published in several large newspaper and nothing. Not a word. No flag burning in the streets, no attempted murder, nothing.
But in 2007, all of a sudden, you are not allowed to draw them in the Nordics anymore. Now flags are getting burned, ax-armed crazies tries to kill artists, etc. Gee, I wonder what happened between the last time and 2007... You want to make a guess?
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It's called globalization and the internet, which means even backwater third-world countries know what's happening everywhere else. The murder of Van Gogh has nothing to do with the wars in the middle-east, for example. (And if you think it does than you're basically saying Islamic fundies are irrational. And if they are irrational then there's no reason to think foreign policy is a cure to their ills.) Islam doesn't just have issues with the West. It has issues with all non-Islamic cultures it comes into contact with.
 
PingviN said:
You seem to forget the US left troops in Saudi Arabia, Muslim holy land, after the war in Kuwait was over. Guess who the fundamentalists believe to be the aggressors. You seem to forget 9/11 wasn't the first event in this.
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You act like we 'left' them because we forgot to bring them home...


They were in Saudi Arabia because their government asked us to stay there in order to deter Iraq.
 
Broheim said:
it was a Danish cartoonist that drew the mohammed Drawings, which I'm proud of, Norway and Sweden shouldn't take flak for that.
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We are, as is fortunate, openly supporting to right of free speech and we will keep on doing so, no matter what.

The fundamentalists must be eradicated, but you can't do this at gunpoint. War and suffering will only create more Talibans and more young men ready to be brainwashed and blow themselves up, hiding behind perverted religious beliefs.
 
MomentsofSanity said:
There are now reports emerging of shots being fired at a children's summer camp in Norway as well.

Edit update: being reported as Utoya island with authorities en route. Suspect dressed in police uniform. Wtf.
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That is fucking sick. I hope the hammer comes down hard on the "Helpers of the Global Jihad."
 
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