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Explosion in central Oslo, Norwegian Primeminister's Office was hit.

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zinfamous said:
was it Norway where that guy was fined ~$250k not too long ago for speeding?

Apparently, he had been repeatedly blasting through a school zone in his Ferrari, and had several other moving violations, I think.

Something where the fine scales to the speed difference, and he somehow managed to hit $250k.

lol.
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afaik, the highest speeding ticket is 6000 NOK (~1200 USD). If I remember correctly (or if it was explained correctly to me), if you have several simultaneous violations exceeding 10.000 NOK, you first ticket stands and the rest are halved. The number you get after halving all but the first decides for how long you go to jail. If you are notorious enough, you'll be put in a court of law.

A 250k fine (140.000 NOK) seems highly unlikely since the system doesn't scale above 6500 NOK.
 
Arkaign said:
There have been some notably high fines in Switzerland and Finland, but I don't think Finland follows the same very high scaling fine system.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3477285.stm

There's also a 1M fine to some Swede who was driving in Switzerland.
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Finnish speeding fines scale to infinity because they are directly proportional to your income. On the low end there is a minimum so you can't speed as much as you want if you are penniless.

Arkaign's link mentions the record $250000 fine given in Finland. The driver did 50mph in a 25mph area.
 
Pia said:
Finnish speeding fines scale to infinity because they are directly proportional to your income. On the low end there is a minimum so you can't speed as much as you want if you are penniless.

Arkaign's link mentions the record $250000 fine given in Finland. The driver did 50mph in a 25mph area.
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I think Norway has the same system, where the fine can scale based on your income. So you can't just laugh at $200 fines while you make $1M/year. Although with points which eventually lead to loss of licence I'm not sure how that works now. I haven't been (caught) speeding so I'm not sure.
 
Pia said:
Finnish speeding fines scale to infinity because they are directly proportional to your income. On the low end there is a minimum so you can't speed as much as you want if you are penniless.
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I really like this idea, they should do that here with the fines the government charge for punishment.
 
Schadenfroh said:
I really like this idea, they should do that here with the fines the government charge for punishment.
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Within reason. I don't think Warren Buffet should be fined $1,000,000 for jaywalking so that he'd feel it. But when one is significantly endangering or scamming the public, that makes sense.

Of course, we'd exempt all but wage income, so we'd all pick up Warren Buffet's court costs and he'd be told to go forth and sin no more . . .
 
Huh, apparently we were all wrong to take the media's description of Breivik as a right wing Christian. His manifesto evidently lifts entire sections from the Unabomber's manifesto. In addition, we have such things as:
Breivik [in a self-interview:]

"Q: Do I have to believe in God or Jesus in order to become a Justiciar Knight?

A: As this is a cultural war, our definition of being a Christian does not necessarily constitute that you are required to have a personal relationship with God or Jesus."

He goes on to say that a "Christian fundamentalist theocracy" is "everything we DO NOT want," and a "secular European society" is "what we DO want."

"It is enough," Breivik says, "that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian-atheist."

At the one and only meeting of Breivik's "Knights Templar" in London in 2002, there were nine attendees, three of whom he describes as "Christian atheists" and one as a "Christian agnostic."

Breivik says he is "not an excessively religious man," brags that he is "first and foremost a man of logic," calls himself "economically liberal" and reveres Darwinism.

Similarly, Breivik says in his manifesto that "it is essential that science take an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings."
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Disclaimer: I have not read his manifesto, nor do I intend to do so. This information is from an Ann Coulter column, so salt to taste.
 
werepossum said:
Huh, apparently we were all wrong to take the media's description of Breivik as a right wing Christian. His manifesto evidently lifts entire sections from the Unabomber's manifesto. In addition, we have such things as:


Disclaimer: I have not read his manifesto, nor do I intend to do so. This information is from an Ann Coulter column, so salt to taste.
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She is herself a FUBAR christian...and a teabag nutter...I'd be VERY sceptical about her "statements"...
 
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