Experts back Sarah Palin’s historical account

[FerrelGeek]

Oh right, the left never makes emotional pitches to its base. Get real, ffs!!

As with a great deal of what comes out of the mouths of the right wing, what Sarah said *was not intended to be a factual statement*, but rather an emotional pitch to her base. Now attempting to represent it as *factual* is as scrambled as the original pronouncements.

Or maybe it's just one of those "infinite monkey theory" kinda things, where it just fell a little short of actually making sense... She's got time, so she'll just keep banging out gibberish, hoping that somebody will find it to be profound...

 

[Thump553]

I especially liked Palin's whine on Chris Wallace's show that her original answer was the result of a gotcha question trap by what she constantly refers to as the lamestreet media. Here's the actual question which prompted her bizarro answer:

“What have you seen so far today and what are you going to take away from your visit?”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scar...nse-everything-is-a-gotcha-question-with-her/

 

[HomerJS]

I especially liked Palin's whine on Chris Wallace's show that her original answer was the result of a gotcha question trap by what she constantly refers to as the lamestreet media. Here's the actual question which prompted her bizarro answer:

“What have you seen so far today and what are you going to take away from your visit?”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-scar...nse-everything-is-a-gotcha-question-with-her/

That's the typical Palin, right wing, Fox News catch-all defense. Someone asks me a question that highlights my lack of knowledge and it's the medias fault. All her sycophants continue to eat it up and send her money.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I don't know who's the bigger idiot here...Palin or those that hate her so much to make an issue of incredibly trite horseshit like this...what a bunch of pathetic morons. Wake up!

 

[ProfJohn]

Nothing smug about knowing what was taught in grammar school. Face it Freeper, she was wrong.

What most of us are taught in grammar school is the poem about Revere which is factually wrong.

How many Americans do you think knew that Revere was actually caught by the British before he could finish his ride?

Here we have yet another expert state that Palin was at least partially correct.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience...5bl9oZWFkbGluZV9saXN0BHNsawN3aGF0MzlzdGhlcmU-

It's a different picture than the one Palin painted. However, historian Nina Zannieri, the director of the Paul Revere House, told us that there are grains of truth dispersed here and there in the former Alaskan governor's account, which she may have picked up during her recent visit to Boston's Old North Church.
Regarding Palin's comments about Revere warning the British, Zannieri said she may have been recalling an event that happened later in the night, well after Revere's midnight ride. "Revere was actually stopped and his horse was taken away and he was questioned by British soldiers," Zannieri told Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site of LiveScience. "In that instance he told them that there were a lot of [patriot soldiers] waiting for them. Some people would say this was a threat or a warning."
Furthermore, Palin's comment about ringing bells during the ride might be a distortion of the fact that he was a bell ringer at Old North Church as a youth. "In some communities, bells were used to call an alarm, though not in [Boston]," Zannieri said. "In this instance, of course, Revere's ride was done at night and quietly so that it wouldn't be noticed. But by the time the militiamen were assembled on the Lexington Green" — i.e. the next morning — "it's possible bells might have been ringing."
For the same reason he probably didn't ring a bell as he rode, he likewise probably didn't shout, "The British are coming!" Aside from not wanting to draw unwanted attention from British troops, on April 18, Revere and his fellow alarm-riders would not have cried out "The British are coming!" as most of them still believed they were British at that point in time.
Palin's distortions of the facts probably aren't so unusual, Zannieri pointed out. "One thing I can say is that the whole midnight ride story is gotten wrong very often. People mistake events from Henry Longfellow's famous poem with what actually happened that night."
"It's easy for a non-historian to get history a little bit wrong," she continued, "and it seems like a lot of media attention for something that is probably not high on the Richter scale of importance."

 

[CLite]

Here we have yet another expert state that Palin was at least partially correct.

Stop being deliberately obtuse, from your posting history I thought of you as a semi-intelligent poster but this thread is really killing your apparent IQ.

She stated “Part of his ride was to warn the British that were already there. That, hey, you’re not going to succeed. You’re not going to take American arms.” This implies the intent of his ride was to warn the British. This is completely incorrect, and all the stuff you keep linking uses phrases like "grains of truth", not that she was "correct" period.

She is doubling down on a silly mistake, and for some reason sheep are touting her praise. Again the silly mistake is not news worthy at all, but you keep bumping this thread with drivel.

 

[nobodyknows]

If you don't care when why the hell are you posting in here. lol

Why did PJ start this stupid thread? To get the truth out? LOL!! PJ's such a partisian hack he wouldn't know the truth if it were stsaring him in the face.

It seems to me the R's are just using Palin as a deflector for as long as they can so they don't have to give any opinions on any of the real issues. She doesn't mind as long as it extends her 15 minutres of fame and makes her more money.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

BTW I am not a Palin fan and wish she would go away, but the way the media goes after her is unforgivable.

Hahahahahahahahahaha......yeah right. You spend so much time supporting her, but you don't like her. Not.

 

[Duder1no]

I'd still hit it.

 

[CallMeJoe]

...historian Nina Zannieri, the director of the Paul Revere House, told us that there are grains of truth dispersed here and there in the former Alaskan governor's account...

There are also "grains of truth dispersed here and there" in Mars Attacks, but I wouldn't base my cosmology on that film.

 

[HomerJS]

There are also "grains of truth dispersed here and there" in Mars Attacks, but I wouldn't base my cosmology on that film.

Haha but the right will translate "grains of truth" into she got it right!!

 

[Lemon law]

Why is it that we look at history from only our viewpoint, Imagine you were British General Smith, the poobah in charge of the raid on Concord. On the plus side you have 700 troops, mostly foot soldiers, but still well trained and armed. As he landed his men on the other side of the river around mid-night and headed toward Concord. Early on he notices church bells ring and gets a clue all surprise is gone. Meanwhile he gets to Concord around dawn, burns down a Tavern, and breaks a few Canons. Meanwhile he notices a few hundred townsmen gathering but still they do little to confront his mischief. As he starts his slow march back home, the 200 had grown to 500 hundred,
and this time, at a bridge they again got confronted by still an inferior force. And one side or the other, its still disputed, fired the first shot, as swelling numbers of colonials turned the British retreat into a route. By the time Smith got back to Charlestown, there may have been as many as 15000 Armed Colonists converging on Concord. And as it was, General Gage had to send out an addition 1700 troops just to get Smith home.

Revere role was minimal at best, and no one at the time could have predicted how angry the Colonists had become.

 

[Tom]

"BTW I am not a Palin fan and wish she would go away, but the way the media goes after her is unforgivable. "

It's their job. btw, saying Revere was warning the British when he rang the bells is the silliest 'spin' ever.


The British are coming, the British are coming. err, I mean you are coming, you are coming.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

So in a desperate attempt to nitpick every little thing Sarah Palin says... something something something nobody cares.

Next someone will bash a politician for saying they'll search "to the ends of the earth" because the earth doesn't actually have ends




Do you really think Palin literally meant a guy on a horse was going to get off his horse then go ring some bells? Of course not. Don't be silly. Other people ring bells and shoot things. He's just riding a horse telling people to ring bells and shoot things. Stop trying to pick apart small shit nobody cares about.

I can tell you that my 6th grader was appalled by her explanation and did a far better job of explaining Revere's ride. Palin has many problems. First is that shes ignorant. Second she clings to whatever she says rather than checking. Third and worst is she either doesn't know the depths of her ignorance or doesn't care or both. If she didn't make a spectacle of herself it wouldn't matter so much, but she does and she's on track to give Obama his second term. Sucks.

 

[Jhhnn]

There are also "grains of truth dispersed here and there" in Mars Attacks, but I wouldn't base my cosmology on that film.

Ain't it the truth. Grains of truth are what makes the whole rightwing big lie method work at all.

I love that line- I'm gonna steal it, too. It's for a good cause- I hope you don't mind...

 

[CallMeJoe]

Ain't it the truth. Grains of truth are what makes the whole rightwing big lie method work at all.
I love that line- I'm gonna steal it, too. It's for a good cause- I hope you don't mind...

Help yourself. I consider myself quite the wit, and even ProfJohn will allow I'm half right...

 

[RampantAndroid]

^^^Yes, the Palin fans that love her and support her must have their revenge on the gotcha posters.

Let's count how many of them show up.

Because every liberal POS thing that happens has a thread? Biased, much?

Someone explain the difference between how Palin answered her question and how Obama acted after the teleprompter died.
Palin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oS4C7bvHv2w

Obama
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

They both sound like idiots, and yet the media only calls out one of them.
The way the media talks about Palin is shameful.

Because Obama is god to the liberal media asshats. He's a stones throw away from being Carter v2 - if only the Bin Laden mission had failed, he WOULD HAVE BEEN a carbon copy of carter.

 

[soundforbjt]

Because every liberal POS thing that happens has a thread? Biased, much?



Because Obama is god to the liberal media asshats. He's a stones throw away from being Carter v2 - if only the Bin Laden mission had failed, he WOULD HAVE BEEN a carbon copy of carter.

And another one shows up.

 

[Red Dawn]

:biggrin:

 

[Jhhnn]

:biggrin:

He. I think some of our resident righties learned their first words from Rush on the radio as their parents listened in rapture...

Hatin' on Libruls before they even knew what a librul was...

Small child's voice: "Mommy, what's a Liberal?"

Mommy: "Libruls are Leftists who hate our freedoms and the baby Jesus."

Small child's voice: "Lefist, leftist, leftist! Bad leftist! Bad!"

Some things never change. Some people can't change, and Palin's one of them. She's a publicity seeking bimbo, an attention whore, and has been her whole life. Yet her fans and defenders see her as something else entirely- "Sarah! Sarah! She's one of us!" They're right, of course, in ways they can't even imagine.

 

[dali71]

He. I think some of our resident righties learned their first words from Rush on the radio as their parents listened in rapture...

Hatin' on Libruls before they even knew what a librul was...

Small child's voice: "Mommy, what's a Liberal?"

Mommy: "Libruls are Leftists who hate our freedoms and the baby Jesus."

Small child's voice: "Lefist, leftist, leftist! Bad leftist! Bad!"

Some things never change. Some people can't change, and Palin's one of them. She's a publicity seeking bimbo, an attention whore, and has been her whole life. Yet her fans and defenders see her as something else entirely- "Sarah! Sarah! She's one of us!" They're right, of course, in ways they can't even imagine.

An oldie but a goodie:

I was visiting some liberal Democrat friends of ours - a husband and wife - and while we were speaking their little seven-year old daughter came up to us and proudly told our group that she wanted to be president some day.

I asked their daughter "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied, "I'd give money to help all the homeless people."

"Wow...what a worthy goal." I told her, "You don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the corner where the homeless guys hangs out, and you can give one of them the $50 to use toward shelter and food."

She thought that over for a few seconds while her Mom glared at me, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

And I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

Her folks still aren't talking to me.

 

[RampantAndroid]

And another one shows up.

Actually, I think Palin should go hide in a effing hole. She's a massive blemish on the party. If anyone should be a prominent figure in the party, it's Gingrich. He can pretty easily turn the media against itself these days. That is unless the media decides they're going to dig him for the divorce stuff again.

All that said though, I'm sick of the media going on about Palin. When Palin was announced as the VP choice, the media flocked the Alaska. When Joe Biden was picked...no one cared. No one dug into his past. THere was no attempt to attack him.

And Palin? I wish they'd picked someone else to go along with McCain. Hell, even someone like Liberman would have made me happy.

And I don't listen to Rush, thanks. Nor do I watch Fox news. Or any other news, for that matter. I prefer reading regular news, and oddly find the BBC news to be better than most anything written in the US.

 

[sportage]

Today Sarah claimed Abe Lincoln invented the Lincoln Continental automobile, while in Europe. Lincoln = automobile. Europe = continental.
And claimed Christopher Columbus discovered America while sailing the Titanic.
Must be true?

Thank God she writes books and plays with politics, and is not teaching your children in some class room.

 

[ShawnD1]

Today Sarah claimed Abe Lincoln invented the Lincoln Continental automobile, while in Europe. Lincoln = automobile. Europe = continental.
And claimed Christopher Columbus discovered America while sailing the Titanic.
Must be true?

Thank God she writes books and plays with politics, and is not teaching your children in some class room.

lol that would be so awesome if she actually said this :awe:

 

[Jhhnn]

I was visiting some liberal Democrat friends of ours - a husband and wife - and while we were speaking their little seven-year old daughter came up to us and proudly told our group that she wanted to be president some day.

I asked their daughter "If you were President what would be the first thing you would do?"

She replied, "I'd give money to help all the homeless people."

"Wow...what a worthy goal." I told her, "You don't have to wait until you're President to do that. You can come over to my house and mow, pull weeds, and sweep my yard, and I'll pay you $50. Then I'll take you over to the corner where the homeless guys hangs out, and you can give one of them the $50 to use toward shelter and food."

She thought that over for a few seconds while her Mom glared at me, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, "Why doesn't the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?"

And I said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

Her folks still aren't talking to me.

The catch, of course, is that nobody was hired at all... and city workers ultimately cut the weeds outside the fence for free to avoid a blight on the neighborhood.

Welcome to the Republican party, indeed.