Question Expensive AMD APU's

[Insomniator]

So I have a spare B350 board, psu, memory case etc. All I need for a decent Plex server/NAS. I figured I could get a 3200 or 3400g for about 100 bucks by now but it looks like they all go for $200+ (USA) if they are even available?

At that point it doesn't make sense right? I could just get a new Intel i3 and board for same cost that would handle transcoding better anyway?

I guess I'm asking what is making the APU's so valuable? Can't be mining, or raw computing power as none of them have any. The chip shortage doesn't seem to effect low end CPU's as Intel has them available all over.

 

[moinmoin]

Athlon 300GE vs Athlon 3000G, obviously these are identical APU-s.

Doesn't 300GE use Picasso and 3000G Dali?

 

[Asterox]

Doesn't 300GE use Picasso and 3000G Dali?

For average user they have more or less identical performanse=identical APU-s.

I dont care, no one cares not even AMD or CPU-Z etc.

Athlon 3000G, AMD it is 14nm, but CPU-Z blah it is 12nm.This is my example, so no one cares about that details.

Price = performance, that's all that matters.

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-athlon-3000g

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[Shivansps]

Doesn't 300GE use Picasso and 3000G Dali?

There are 12nm and 14nm 3000Gs and 12 and 14nm 300GEs... there is also the rare 320GE, ive had those too. The only ones that we know are Picasso-only are the 2XXGE ones.

The diference is the 300GE and 320GE are tray-only. All avalible units that i ever saw of those were of tray cpus. And if you go to AMD website for the 300GE there is no product ID for a boxed version.
So these are intended for OEM / miners only.

 

[Zepp]

For average user they have more or less identical performanse=identical APU-s.

I dont care, no one cares not even AMD or CPU-Z etc.

Athlon 3000G, AMD it is 14nm, but CPU-Z blah it is 12nm.This is my example, so no one cares about that details.

The differences are minor for sure.

Cpu-world also calls the 3000G Picasso while Wikipedia lists the 3000G as Raven Ridge.

3000G's November 2019 release predates Dali so it seems to be 14nm Raven Ridge. No Dali parts have been released for desktop socket or above 25w.

 

[moinmoin]

3000G's November 2019 release predates Dali so it seems to be 14nm Raven Ridge.

I swear the first time we saw the smaller Raven2/Dali die (real, not CG) was through a delidded 3000G. Is my memory playing a trick on me?

 

[Insert_Nickname]

I swear the first time we saw the smaller Raven2/Dali die (real, not CG) was through a delidded 3000G. Is my memory playing a trick on me?

AMD could well be using what's available. I wouldn't rule out a mixture of Raven, Raven2 and Picasso dies used since Athlons are likely the end-stage before the real trash bin.

 

[moinmoin]

AMD could well be using what's available. I wouldn't rule out a mixture of Raven, Raven2 and Picasso dies used since Athlons are likely the end-stage before the real trash bin.

Considering we did get a random 12nm Ryzen 1600 that may very well be true indeed...