Kadarin

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I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.


Well then why would they fake it? And what about that first time, in Germany a long time ago. The girl died in her mid twenties and she was smart, religious, and extremely nice. Why would she do that?
 

thehstrybean

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.

Too bad science can't explain the spiritual relm...
 

Mik3y

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Exorcism is real. Is the story behind it real? I 0n0. Exorcisms are done all the time. It might be BS, it might be real. I wouldn't know because I haven't been possessed before.
 

Mik3y

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
Then how do you know its real?

because someone i know had his sister go through excorcism. I say its real in the fact that exorcism is performed, but i dont know if its true about possession.
 

Zenmervolt

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Do I believe _all_ of them are true? No.

Do I believe that _some_ are true? Yes.

ZV
 

The Godfather

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Damn guys now u got me all scared lol.

Last night i woke up to the sound of the National Geographic channel talking about excorcism and a boy had HELL written with blood on his chest
and i freaked out. So i was looking for some relaxation by people saying its just a hoax lol.
 

The Godfather

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I used to think everything is science. Then i remembered about this old lady in Bulgaria. She got caught in a tornado and after that she became blind. And she became a psychic. Every single politician in Europe went to see her, and the media wasn't allowed in her house. There were miles of people outside waiting, even sleeping in tents waiting for their turn. So i guess there is some things that are not science after all. Thats what spooks me most about possession.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.

Too bad science can't explain the spiritual relm...

There's no evidence that "the spiritual realm" exists. You believe it does, but you can't provide any measurable, testable evidence. All you can provide is hearsay, if that.
 

The Godfather

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: thehstrybean
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.

Too bad science can't explain the spiritual relm...

There's no evidence that "the spiritual realm" exists. You believe it does, but you can't provide any measurable, testable evidence. All you can provide is hearsay, if that.


Read my post about the old lady. How do you explain that? She was right about every single thing, even before the person asked her the question she would answer it. As if she goes into their mind.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Reck
i cannot believe so many ppl believe in possession. then again i can, most people are quite stupid.
Try it sometime and see if you change your mind. :p

ZV
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreampt of in your philosophy."

ZV
 

yankeesfan

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Originally posted by: The Godfather
I used to think everything is science. Then i remembered about this old lady in Bulgaria. She got caught in a tornado and after that she became blind. And she became a psychic. Every single politician in Europe went to see her, and the media wasn't allowed in her house. There were miles of people outside waiting, even sleeping in tents waiting for their turn. So i guess there is some things that are not science after all. Thats what spooks me most about possession.

link?
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
I do not, and will not until I see some form of measurable evidence that stands up to scientific scrutiny that demons and spirits and whatnot exist.
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreampt of in your philosophy."

ZV

The universe is large, so I do believe it contains things that I could not possibly imagine. However, I will not deliberately "believe" in something unless there's measurable, testable evidence to indicate that it's anything more than wishful thinking.