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Executive wage limits may be extended to all US companies

Specop 007

Diamond Member
Nothing like trying to ruin your country like imposing wage limits on skilled manpower. The Democrats jealousy of free markets is going to be shining through in the next few months I bet. Its going to be interesting to see if this passes.

Sad days indeed.

Article

Barney Frank: TARP's comp curbs could be extended to all businesses
Would be part of broader bill limiting hedge funds, credit-raters, and mortgage securitizers; 'deeply rooted anger'

By Neil Roland
February 3, 2009 3:01 PM ET

Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

?There?s deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,? the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies.

The provision will be part of a broader package that would likely give the Federal Reserve the authority to monitor systemic risk in the economy and to shut down financial institutions that face too much exposure, Mr. Frank said.

Also included in the legislation: registration requirements for hedge funds and proposals aimed at curbing conflicts of interest at credit-rating agencies such as Standard & Poor?s.

The bill, which the committee is working on in consultation with the Obama administration, also will require financial institutions that bundle mortgages into securities to share in potential losses. This would give banks and mortgage-specialists an incentive not to make bad loans, he said. Institutions that securitize loans improperly will incur tougher penalties.

?There have been too few constraints on major financial institutions incurring far more liability than they could handle,? Mr. Frank said.

The committee hopes to have a general outline of the legislation by early April, he said. It will be the panel?s first priority in its effort to restructure financial regulation in the wake of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

Mr. Frank has summoned the CEOs of Citigroup, J.P. Morgan Chase and the seven other U.S. financial firms that got $125 billion from TARP to testify at a Feb. 11 committee hearing.

Mr. Frank seems to be in synch with the Obama administration in his plans for executive compensation.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said last month that he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits bailout banks from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive.

The Troubled Assets Relief Program legislation enacted in October seeks to give companies receiving aid under the $700 billion bailout a number of incentives to curb what it calls excessive executive pay.

Mr. Geithner said he would consider ?extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.?

Under the legislation, banks receiving bailout money must limit golden parachute payments to senior executives to no more than three times the executives? base pay. The companies also must subject any bonuses or incentives to clawbacks if the payouts are based on bank?s misleading financial statements.

In addition, bailout recipients can?t offer top managers incentives that ?encourage unnecessary excessive risks that threaten the value of the financial institution.?

These limits apply to the chief executive officer, chief financial officer and the next three most highly compensated executives in a bank receiving rescue funds.

Mr. Frank said provisions on golden parachute payments and bonus clawbacks would probably be in the legislation, though he declined to provide more detail because ?we?re early in the process.?

A congressional oversight panel headed by Harvard Law professor Elizabeth Warren also recommended last week that Treasury consider revoking executive bonuses at failed institutions getting federal aid.

Currently, these institutions must subject bonuses to clawbacks only if the payouts are based on banks? misleading financial statements.

The top Republican on the committee, Spencer Bachus of Alabama, said last month he has reservations about giving the Fed new powers, such as the authority to monitor systemic risk.

Mr. Frank said today that after lawmakers address issues on systemic risk, they will consider how to bolster investor protection via changes at the Securities and Exchange Commission. The committee also will review proposals to assist struggling homeowners and expand the housing supply, and to strengthen international financial institutions such as the World Bank, he said.
 
It is all stuff that can be reversed when the GOP regains power. The pendulum will never stop swinging.
 
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
It is all stuff that can be reversed when the GOP regains power. The pendulum will never stop swinging.

This is not true. The people that vote democrat are producing (babies) faster than the people that vote Republican. Further, when the baby boomers die, it won't even be close.
 
I back it for those who receive bail out money but those who don't, well the Government has no business dictating how much their CEO's should make.
 
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Nothing like trying to ruin your country like imposing wage limits on skilled manpower. The Democrats jealousy of free markets is going to be shining through in the next few months I bet. Its going to be interesting to see if this passes.

Sad days indeed.

Article

Barney Frank: TARP's comp curbs could be extended to all businesses
Would be part of broader bill limiting hedge funds, credit-raters, and mortgage securitizers; 'deeply rooted anger'

By Neil Roland
February 3, 2009 3:01 PM ET

Congress will consider legislation to extend some of the curbs on executive pay that now apply only to those banks receiving federal assistance, House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank said.

?There?s deeply rooted anger on the part of the average American,? the Massachusetts Democrat said at a Washington news conference today.

He said the compensation restrictions would apply to all financial institutions and might be extended to include all U.S. companies.

The provision will be part of a broader package that would likely give the Federal Reserve the authority to monitor systemic risk in the economy and to shut down financial institutions that face too much exposure, Mr. Frank said.

Also included in the legislation: registration requirements for hedge funds and proposals aimed at curbing conflicts of interest at credit-rating agencies such as Standard & Poor?s.

The bill, which the committee is working on in consultation with the Obama administration, also will require financial institutions that bundle mortgages into securities to share in potential losses. This would give banks and mortgage-specialists an incentive not to make bad loans, he said. Institutions that securitize loans improperly will incur tougher penalties.

?There have been too few constraints on major financial institutions incurring far more liability than they could handle,? Mr. Frank said.

The committee hopes to have a general outline of the legislation by early April, he said. It will be the panel?s first priority in its effort to restructure financial regulation in the wake of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

Mr. Frank has summoned the CEOs of Citigroup, J.P. Morgan Chase and the seven other U.S. financial firms that got $125 billion from TARP to testify at a Feb. 11 committee hearing.

Mr. Frank seems to be in synch with the Obama administration in his plans for executive compensation.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said last month that he might try to extend to all U.S. companies a restriction that prohibits bailout banks from taking a tax deduction of more than $500,000 in pay for each executive.

The Troubled Assets Relief Program legislation enacted in October seeks to give companies receiving aid under the $700 billion bailout a number of incentives to curb what it calls excessive executive pay.

Mr. Geithner said he would consider ?extending at least some of the TARP provisions and features of the $500,000 cap to U.S. companies generally.?

Under the legislation, banks receiving bailout money must limit golden parachute payments to senior executives to no more than three times the executives? base pay. The companies also must subject any bonuses or incentives to clawbacks if the payouts are based on bank?s misleading financial statements.

In addition, bailout recipients can?t offer top managers incentives that ?encourage unnecessary excessive risks that threaten the value of the financial institution.?

These limits apply to the chief executive officer, chief financial officer and the next three most highly compensated executives in a bank receiving rescue funds.

Mr. Frank said provisions on golden parachute payments and bonus clawbacks would probably be in the legislation, though he declined to provide more detail because ?we?re early in the process.?

A congressional oversight panel headed by Harvard Law professor Elizabeth Warren also recommended last week that Treasury consider revoking executive bonuses at failed institutions getting federal aid.

Currently, these institutions must subject bonuses to clawbacks only if the payouts are based on banks? misleading financial statements.

The top Republican on the committee, Spencer Bachus of Alabama, said last month he has reservations about giving the Fed new powers, such as the authority to monitor systemic risk.

Mr. Frank said today that after lawmakers address issues on systemic risk, they will consider how to bolster investor protection via changes at the Securities and Exchange Commission. The committee also will review proposals to assist struggling homeowners and expand the housing supply, and to strengthen international financial institutions such as the World Bank, he said.

I hope they do it. Many of those high paying executive jobs are located in blue states and cities. New York City is already reeling from the loss of thousands of high-paying jobs in the finance sector, this would hurt them even worse and that will provide no small amount of schadenfreude to see them bring the pain on themselves.
 
Originally posted by: glenn1

I hope they do it. Many of those high paying executive jobs are located in blue states and cities. New York City is already reeling from the loss of thousands of high-paying jobs in the finance sector, this would hurt them even worse and that will provide no small amount of schadenfreude to see them bring the pain on themselves.

So you're a socialist?

Why not prevent the situation through correct fixes, such as larger amounts of investor rights and oversight?
 
Yeah, I don't agree with that at all. I would like to see measures that give shareholders a greater say in executive compensation, though.

But there's no way an exec pay cap on all US companies will make it through Congress. You guys can start worrying if the bill passes in the House and still retains caps on executive pay. Until then, this seems like a non-issue to me, because I just can't imagine it happening.
 
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
It is all stuff that can be reversed when the GOP regains power. The pendulum will never stop swinging.

This is not true. The people that vote democrat are producing (babies) faster than the people that vote Republican. Further, when the baby boomers die, it won't even be close.

Don't forget it is only a matter of time before the Dems give Amnesty to 20-40 million illegal?s most of home will become democrats.

By the time Obama leaves office the US will likely be a one party nation and that by no stretch of the imagination will be a good thing.
 
Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: glenn1

I hope they do it. Many of those high paying executive jobs are located in blue states and cities. New York City is already reeling from the loss of thousands of high-paying jobs in the finance sector, this would hurt them even worse and that will provide no small amount of schadenfreude to see them bring the pain on themselves.

So you're a socialist?

Why not prevent the situation through correct fixes, such as larger amounts of investor rights and oversight?

Unless I missed something, if the TARP provisions were extended, the only companies it would affect would be those doing business with the Feds. If so, maybe they, meaning our representatives, don't appreciate subsidizing golden parachutes for companies who are supposed to be supporting our nation's defense, infrastructure etc.

There's a balance, somewhere, but we're already living in the nightmare result of allowing unrestrained greed.
 
Originally posted by: soccerballtux
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
It is all stuff that can be reversed when the GOP regains power. The pendulum will never stop swinging.

This is not true. The people that vote democrat are producing (babies) faster than the people that vote Republican. Further, when the baby boomers die, it won't even be close.

Interesting. According to your logic Germany should still be ruled by NSDAP. Thanks for the lollerskate ride.
 
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: glenn1

I hope they do it. Many of those high paying executive jobs are located in blue states and cities. New York City is already reeling from the loss of thousands of high-paying jobs in the finance sector, this would hurt them even worse and that will provide no small amount of schadenfreude to see them bring the pain on themselves.

So you're a socialist?

Why not prevent the situation through correct fixes, such as larger amounts of investor rights and oversight?

Because that's not the way in the US. Here, we like to make laws that address the symptoms while ignoring the underlying cause completely.
 
Just think of how much this will save all those poor rich people on their taxes.

I guess one could say that every cloud has it's silver lining. 😉
 
Title needs to be corrected. Should read:

Executive wage limits may be extended to all US companies that take bailout money
 
Barney Frank needs to go. Now. That guy is absolutely insane, just listen to him talk and the crap coming out of his mouth.

-edit-
Obama promised this in his speeches, it should surprise nobody.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Barney Frank needs to go. Now. That guy is absolutely insane, just listen to him talk and the crap coming out of his mouth.

If it's just for those who take bailout money what problem do you have with it?
 
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Is Barnery Frank the biggest idiot in Congress, or is he only trying to be?

I thought he was a real life retard when I heard him speak for the first time.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: spidey07
Barney Frank needs to go. Now. That guy is absolutely insane, just listen to him talk and the crap coming out of his mouth.

If it's just for those who take bailout money what problem do you have with it?

It's everything else Frank says that I have a problem with, this is just more of his slober mouth dribble. Why has he not been before a senate investigation/hearing regarding fanny/freddy is beyond me.
 
Originally posted by: her209
Title needs to be corrected. Should read:

Executive wage limits may be extended to all US companies that take bailout money
That was my initial assumption, but I read through the article many times and it seems to suggest that they are in fact looking at limits on executive pay for all US companies.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Barney Frank needs to go. Now. That guy is absolutely insane, just listen to him talk and the crap coming out of his mouth.

-edit-
Obama promised this in his speeches, it should surprise nobody.

What's really scary is-Barney Frank is one of the smartest members of Congress.
 
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Is Barnery Frank the biggest idiot in Congress, or is he only trying to be?

I thought he was a real life retard when I heard him speak for the first time.
Funny that's the same reaction I got when I first read one of your posts. I guess the Massholes of his district think he's doing a good job for them.

 
I think a better solution to this problem-of obscene pay with no accountability, is to return to a high tax rate for incomes over say $250k.
 
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