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Younigue said:
In part because of me? BUT, I'm fairly certain we established a while back you don't particularly like me. I DO Rock though. Look at you getting it right once. Cause for some sort of celebration or is this a hide under your bed until the scary goes away or you fall asleep, whichever comes first. Suggestion: though [be advised] you might get a kink in your neck from watching under your bed, watch Franken question Sessions.
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I like you...and think you're cute. I just don't find you to be particularly bright.
 
Alpha One Seven

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Younigue said:
Yeah, but did you do as I asked? Seriously, I want to know from you what results turned up. I won't have those key words on my search history.
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Ever try comedy? You are a natural.
Did you do what you asked? Do things for yourself and stop relying on others to do them for you.
Learn to computer more best.
 
fleshconsumed

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vi edit said:
Now we have some Republicans in the house trying to propose a bill to dump Mueller on grounds that he was FBI director when the Uranium One stuff went down.

http://www.businessinsider.com/repu...move-bob-mueller-from-special-counsel-2017-11

Waiting for some serious F5'oclock news to drop this afternoon...
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Article says it's a resolution, meaning it's not legally binding. Mueller won't have to step down even if it passes. This is just blowing more smoke over the whole thing, it's an indirect attempt at discredit the investigation, it's just a form of slander that tries to to shape public opinion to Republicans advantage. Since it carries no legal weight I'd be interested to see the roll call, I'm curious which if any Republicans vote against it.
 
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fleshconsumed said:
Article says it's a resolution, meaning it's not legally binding. Mueller won't have to step down even if it passes. This is just blowing more smoke over the whole thing, it's an indirect attempt at discredit the investigation, it's just a form of slander that tries to to shape public opinion to Republicans advantage. Since it carries no legal weight I'd be interested to see the roll call, I'm curious which if any Republicans vote against it.
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Good catch on resolution. I saw the headline that stated bill.
 
Younigue

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Doc Savage Fan said:
I like you...and think you're cute. I just don't find you to be particularly bright.
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When the tool you use to judge my intelligence is you... I live comfortably in my own skin with your assessment of the depth of my intelligence. Do I need to explain myself further or can I leave it at this? Ya know what, I'm going to assume you've missed my meaning and give you the only answer I would even consider giving you that feels right and fun. Ready for it?

Deduce. <--- fun to say when said with the proper tone AND gives you the opportunity to think. Feeling like expressing your gratitude? Then I request that it be in the form of a formal (looking) thank you note. Get'Er done mister.
 
Younigue

Younigue

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Alpha One Seven said:
Ever try comedy? You are a natural.
Did you do what you asked? Do things for yourself and stop relying on others to do them for you.
Learn to computer more best.
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Look man, if you don't want my help... I'll just put you in my next stand-up performance. It'll be scathing.

Note to self: Begin doing stand-up!
 
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ivwshane

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Younigue said:
Look man, if you don't want my help... I'll just put you in my next stand-up performance. It'll be scathing.

Note to self: Begin doing stand-up!
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Shit, just start regurgitating his posts and people will think you are the next Colbert mocking the right because no one believes people are that stupid.

You guys can be a team even! He writes down his thoughts and you simply repeat them. I'm sure comedy central would pick that up in a heart beat (although there is a new show that already does this).
 
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Younigue

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ivwshane said:
Shit, just start regurgitating his posts and people will think you are the next Colbert mocking the right because no one believes people are that stupid.

You guys can be a team even! He writes down his thoughts and you simply repeat them. I'm sure comedy central would pick that up in a heart beat (although there is a new show that already does this).
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Have I missed the boat to Fame? Thanks @Alpha One Seven!

... I feel an itch to blame Obama or Hillary possibly even The NFL kneelers! Ah man, does that mean the Trumpublicans are getting to me? Dammit! Nobody told me they were contagious! How irresponsible... Of just somebody, ya know?
 
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sactoking said:
I was under the impression that 5 did not absolve you of your duty to produce.
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No, it often does absolve you. The theory is that the request to produce is utilizing the subpoenaed person's knowledge to identify sources of incriminating information and hence, the act of production, separate and apart from the contents of the documents, is an act of self-incrimination.

In order for 5A not to be available, the requests have to be very specific, like "produce your tax returns from 2015" would be OK, but "produce any and all documents constituting, referring to or related to your business dealings in Russia" would not. In the second example, the act of production implies an admission that the person has business dealings in Russia, which in a given case, could be incriminating, while in the first example, nothing is implied by the act of production other than the fact that a tax return for the specified year exists.

If that all seems convoluted, the short answer is this: sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.
 
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woolfe9998 said:
No, it often does absolve you. The theory is that the request to produce is utilizing the subpoenaed person's knowledge to identify sources of incriminating information and hence, the act of production, separate and apart from the contents of the documents, is an act of self-incrimination.

In order for 5A not to be available, the requests have to be very specific, like "produce your tax returns from 2015" would be OK, but "produce any and all documents constituting, referring to or related to your business dealings in Russia" would not. In the second example, the act of production implies an admission that the person has business dealings in Russia, which in a given case, could be incriminating, while in the first example, nothing is implied by the act of production other than the fact that a tax return for the specified year exists.

If that all seems convoluted, the short answer is this: sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.
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So basically, the prosecution needs to know what documents to request, since the evidence is known to exist at that point, and you're requesting the specific item, rather than requesting the defendant persecute themselves? Makes sense. Prosecution should be able to subpoena whomever holds the mailbox for the defendant, request mail flow records, at which point you know the specific message you need to request from the defendant. Repeat for every message in the user's mailbox.
 
Doc Savage Fan

Doc Savage Fan

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Younigue said:
When the tool you use to judge my intelligence is you... I live comfortably in my own skin with your assessment of the depth of my intelligence. Do I need to explain myself further or can I leave it at this? Ya know what, I'm going to assume you've missed my meaning and give you the only answer I would even consider giving you that feels right and fun. Ready for it?

Deduce. <--- fun to say when said with the proper tone AND gives you the opportunity to think. Feeling like expressing your gratitude? Then I request that it be in the form of a formal (looking) thank you note. Get'Er done mister.
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I must say that I do like your sense of humor. Here you go... :)
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