CaptnKirk
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IMHO and sadly, we should note that William Jefferson used endless legal dodges to keep from going to trial for about four long years.
And now that Jefferson stands convicted on 11 of 16 counts, how many more damn years before that rascal sees the inside of a jail cell where he belongs? I would not be surprised to see him stall it out another four years or so.
There is something clearly wrong with our criminal justice system, maybe we should not rush to judgment, but crawling to judgment at less than the speed of a snail is also wrong.
And now that Jefferson stands convicted on 11 of 16 counts, how many more damn years before that rascal sees the inside of a jail cell where he belongs? I would not be surprised to see him stall it out another four years or so.
There is something clearly wrong with our criminal justice system, maybe we should not rush to judgment, but crawling to judgment at less than the speed of a snail is also wrong.
Originally posted by: Harvey
The only ones who would say that are Republirats. Democrats (and Demorats) know better.
Oh that's a load of crap. Every left leaning poster on this forum thinks their shit doesn't stink and that only Republicans do shiesty deals and are corrupt.
As someone who has occassionally been considered a 'liberal' here, you are a liar.Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Oh that's a load of crap. Every left leaning poster on this forum thinks their shit doesn't stink and that only Republicans do shiesty deals and are corrupt.Originally posted by: Harvey
The only ones who would say that are Republirats. Democrats (and Demorats) know better.
I understand that to the irrational partisan, making crap up like you do is essential to your continuing your ideological delusions - the Democrats must act like you say they do.
I've never defended Jefferson, other than to say that the situation was limited to the evidence making it look extremely likely he was guilty but we should wait for trial.
And now, I'm saying this is outstanding that a man who did such wrong was held accountable - the same point whether it's Democrat Jeffferson or a Republican.
Corrupt Democrats - and I say they exist - do stink, in contrast to your lie about 'every left-leaning member'. I say not only Republicans are corrupt, in contrast to your lie.
It's ironic that these ideologues are the ones actually being partisan when it comes to holding people accountable, but are the same people who accuse others of that falsely.
In fact, not only are you lying, Lebowski, when you say every left-leaning member deny any Democrat does wrong - it's the opposite so far in this thread.
Every 'left-leaning member' who has posted has praised the conviction of this criminal.
Originally posted by: Harvey
The only ones who would say that are Republirats. Democrats (and Demorats) know better.
Please... this kind of thing is implied here all of the time, regardless of the convicted's party affiliation :roll: . One partisan tries to exploit the circumstances (in this case, MikeMike), then another partisan rolls in to say their party would never sink to such lows (in this case, you). Wash, rinse, repeat.
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Everyone's shit stinks, and everyone thinks theirs doesn't.
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It will be intersting in where he gets sent to serve his sentence.
Club Fed or Rock Breaker hotel?
Club Fed or Rock Breaker hotel?
Good riddance. I'm just happy another corrupt politician is going to jail. Hopefully we'll see more convictions in New Jersey, which is probably tied with Louisiana in amount of corruption.
The extreme right wing here at P&N is full of trolls and dummies.
he has been sentenced to 13 years in prison
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iXK-8LSR0NFCKOLqi8l-UU14rr3wD9BUU8PO0
werepossum
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Wow! Not that I don't think he deserved it, but . . . I keep thinking about the guys in Vermont who have raped children hundreds of times and get three years, or six months, or even probation . . . Or that crazy astronaut chick in the diaper that attacked and tried to kidnap a woman dating her love interest, who got house arrest . . . Or the stripper in Carolina that cried gang rape and almost ruined three young men's lives and didn't even get prosecuted . . .
Justice ain't blind, it's bat shit crazy.
GroundedSailor
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Yes he has, but the appeals process will now start and who knows he may get a reprieve on a technicality. Always seem to happen to scumbags like him.
Butner Federal Correctional Complex is a likely destination.
They seem to get the non-violent money-grubbing scum types and general dumb-asses to society like Jonathan Pollard.
I believe Bernie Madoff is also a guest for the next 150 years.
I'm thinking Jefferson will be serving 6-7 of those years with Bernie
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Well Jefferson led us on a merry chase for too damn many years, now how much longer before that cell door slams shut? I for one hope its zero days, but have to question those sadists who advocate letting Bubba have his ass.
Should we empower sexual sadists in our prison system as a measure of our justice system?
Should we empower sexual sadists in our prison system as a measure of our justice system?
Bitek
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Depends on the news station. If Jefferson was a Republican, and it was on Fox news, the headline would read:
Either way, fuck that guy and let him rot. Any corrupt pol needs to be tossed, R or D.
UberNeuman
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High-ranking politicians wouldn't get sent to a prison where they'd meet Bubba in the first place. Not because politicians are too good to go to such a place, but because of security concerns. If Bubba harbors a deep hatred and resentment towards authority figures and assaults, or even murders this Jefferson fella... Well, it wouldn't look good, to say the least.
One can only wonder what drives a person to take bribes and break the law when he's already one of the top-ranking people in the pecking order, with a correspondingly huge paycheck no doubt. Why isn't enough enough for these guys?
I can only conclude Jefferson must be some kind of sociopath, who for psychological reasons simply can't be satisfied with a normal lot in life, and also probably lacks any form of moral compass that would inhibit criminal tendencies while he's supposedly working for the public good.
You'd think if he wasn't fucked up in his mind, he'd be able to realize that he stands a lot more to lose than he might gain by becoming a criminal...
Atreus21
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C'mon, that ain't necessary.
The dude was a complete turd. If the democrats admit it, there's no reason to be nasty.
On a side note, my wife's family was represented in court by Jefferson's replacement!
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I really don't like the word 'technicality'. Frequently 'getting off on a technicality' is actually legal shorthand for 'had your Constitutional rights violated'.
I also liked the usual poorly informed conservative shrieking by other posters about the media that turns out to be wrong (yet again).
That all being said, fuck this guy. Not only is he a criminal, he's a shitty criminal. Who puts their bribe money in the freezer? Even if he is able to appeal his sentence down if nothing else we've at least kicked his stupid ass out of Congress.
Another interesting note on the whole thing is that even though his district was won by a Republican for the first time in I-don't-even-know how long, that replacement was the lone Republican 'yes' vote on the health care bill.
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