Ex-CIA agent: US invents its own enemies

[jackstar7]

The dup account was created to PM a mod to find out why I received a short vacation, which is why they did not perma ban for it.

Wow, you really are reaching when you need to go back almost a decade to grab things. Do you even have a life?

Sure. I also have google.

I understand if you haven't heard of it. It's pretty new.

 

[cybrsage]

Sure. I also have google.

I understand if you haven't heard of it. It's pretty new.

Says the man who digs back a decade to find nothing of import...then pretends it is of major importance.

Going back a decade...you have fallen into the realm of creepy stalker. Do I need a restraining order to keep your creepiness away?

 

[airdata]

Everybody stop what you're doing... look up the last 5 "terror" incidents in the US and tell us how many were FBI operations... and... GO.

 

[cybrsage]

None of them. I even actually looked it up so that I was not just saying the obvious without any support.

 

[airdata]

cybr : You obviously looked nothing up. All recent terror threats in the states have had one thing in common. They were all scenarios planned out by the FBI and other government agencies where they basically go find some lonely guy online and pretend they're al qeada and get the guy to plant a fake bomb.

If you read into this, there's also evidence suggesting a similar scheme w\ the 93 wtc bombing in which real materials were used instead of fake materials.

The guy in Dallas for example who they claimed was trying to blow up the fountains building... turned out there was no threat because it was a fake FBI provided bomb. They get to pretend they're stopping terror even when they're the ones doing all of the planning and simply finding some lonely patsy online to spend the next 20-30 years in prison.

 

[bfdd]

cybr : You obviously looked nothing up. All recent terror threats in the states have had one thing in common. They were all scenarios planned out by the FBI and other government agencies where they basically go find some lonely guy online and pretend they're al qeada and get the guy to plant a fake bomb.

If you read into this, there's also evidence suggesting a similar scheme w\ the 93 wtc bombing in which real materials were used instead of fake materials.

The guy in Dallas for example who they claimed was trying to blow up the fountains building... turned out there was no threat because it was a fake FBI provided bomb. They get to pretend they're stopping terror even when they're the ones doing all of the planning and simply finding some lonely patsy online to spend the next 20-30 years in prison.

The only one that wasn't, was the LA Arsonist and they're not calling that guy a Terrorist cause he's a white German. Funny shit.

 

[Ausm]

LOL I thought this was a thread about Bush and Cheney...

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Banned from where? You are not one of those idiots who are pretending I am banned from Rage3D, are you? Pretty dumb to claim such, when I can easily post there again (like I just did earlier today) and show you to be wrong. If you are talking about Guru3d, then yes, but that was funny. Already posted that one. Time to fess up and say what you are talking about, or are you too cowardly to do that? Being a coward is something you do well, but it is a bit annoying to the rest of us.

You sure like to throw out "coward" a lot. I don't think you know what that word really means. Perhaps goggle could help you? LOL

You didn't answer before, is it really fun for you to be a troll and get banned? Intentionally lying and insulting people is somehow fun for you? Pathetic. You really need to grow up or seek professional help.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-09-26-insurgents_N.htm

And before you go all stupid, you need to use your long term memory and recall that the media stopped calling those we were fighting "terrorists" because it made the bad guys feel bad...or something like that.

Insurgents doesn't equal terrorists. And somehow I don't think a US military body count isn't very accurate for counting actual terrorists, since they routinely killed innocent civilians as collateral damage and denied it.

Everyone being you and Jhhnn...that is not a big crowd. I think you are also like him and think WMD is only CBR, right?

No, I mean people like everyone in the US except you and Rick Santorum. You know, like George W Bush, Condi Rice, Rumsfield, Colin Powell and many others. You might have heard of these people, the were the ones in charge when we were lied to? You are somehow claiming that Bush was wrong when he admitted Iraq didn't have WMD? Really? You know more then the entire Bush admin... LOL, totally clueless.

Again, trolls like you are so pathetic, it's like arguing that the world is flat or something. No matter what, you cling to your delusions. It's a free country, so go for it. But expect to be treated like a clueless ignorant person since you have proved you are ignorant when you continue to believe things that are 100% factually wrong.

Of course, googling your posting history in other forums reinforces the fact that you are a clueless ignorant troll, so you really have no credibility left. Sorry for the harsh truth, but there you go.

Did not work. You still refuse to write Hans Blix and demand he explain why he lied to the UN about his WMD finds. Until you do, you are simply a little coward.

Wow, still can't give up the crazy can you? Are you related to Michelle Bachmann perhaps? And you REALLY don't know what coward means, given that you are throwing it out several times as an insult.

In Hans Blix own words: (my bold)

The memoirs published by George W. Bush, Tony Blair and John Howard in 2010 are a reminder that in the lead-up to the 2003 Iraq war all three pointed to the threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction as the major reason for the invasion. We now know that there were no WMDs, but in an interview in December 2009 former Prime Minister Blair said he would have thought it right to remove Saddam Hussein even if he had known that this was the case. He would have had to “deploy different arguments,” he said.

Hmm, no WMD there.

But the evidence behind these conclusions was nowhere to be found

And again, no evidence found of WMD.....shocking. I guess you can add Blix himself to the long list of everyone else in the world that knows you are lying and wrong. Anything else you want to troll and lie about?

Maybe want to start defending Obama being born in Kenya? Bush was behind 9/11? You are on a roll, might as well defend all the other crazy stuff while you are at it.

 

[cybrsage]

cybr : You obviously looked nothing up. All recent terror threats in the states have had one thing in common. They were all scenarios planned out by the FBI and other government agencies where they basically go find some lonely guy online and pretend they're al qeada and get the guy to plant a fake bomb.

If you read into this, there's also evidence suggesting a similar scheme w\ the 93 wtc bombing in which real materials were used instead of fake materials.

The guy in Dallas for example who they claimed was trying to blow up the fountains building... turned out there was no threat because it was a fake FBI provided bomb. They get to pretend they're stopping terror even when they're the ones doing all of the planning and simply finding some lonely patsy online to spend the next 20-30 years in prison.

0_o

 

[cybrsage]

You sure like to throw out "coward" a lot. I don't think you know what that word really means. Perhaps goggle could help you? LOL

Don't be mad at me that you are a coward. I know it is MUCH easier to pretend you are brave when you use the anonymous world wide web...but that does not remove that knowledge that you are a coward.

No, I mean people like everyone in the US except you and Rick Santorum.

Now you think you are everyone in the US. Wow, a coward with a touch of hubris...interesting mix.

In Hans Blix own words: (my bold)



Hmm, no WMD there.

If you want to take up his flip flopping, take it up with him. We already discussed your cowardice in this issue...I am not sure why you want it brought up again and again...

Hans Blix sent a report to the UN showing he found WMDs. If he later says he did not, then there is an issue with one of the two statements by Hans being a lie. If you want to know which is the truth, write Hans. I cannot tell you which time he lied, I am not him.

I know it is far safer and far less scary to write on an anonymous forum than to write a real letter to someone, but if you want the info you seek you will have to put on a stiff upper lip and conquer your fear.


Again, I cannot tell you which time Hans was lying. Write him, if you can conquer your fear and become brave enough to do it.

 

[airdata]

Cybr : are we doing the WMD thing again? Are you going to post that article where they found warheads filled with water and called them wmd?

 

[airdata]

Federal agents built a device that was designed not to explode and put it in a 2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac.

Undercover Agent Was With Smadi When He Tried to Blow Up Building
On Thursday, Smadi allegedly drove to Dallas to meet the undercover agent and got into the Ford Explorer that contained what he believed was a weapon of mass destruction, according to the arrest affidavit. He is accused of then driving through downtown Dallas, entering the parking garage under Fountain Place building and then parking the vehicle.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/FBI-Arrests-Man-Accused-in-Skyscraper-Bomb-Plot--61272512.html

I believe the same was true w\ that one bomb scare a couple years ago in time square.

 

[cybrsage]

Cybr : are we doing the WMD thing again? Are you going to post that article where they found warheads filled with water and called them wmd?

Are you still pretending that WMDs can only be CBRs? Tsk Tsk, I thought you learned from that.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

...lots of pointless namecalling snipped, along with absolutely nothing factual posted anyway

You really don't have a clue do you troll? We post facts, all you do is call me a coward. Really? You have delusional thoughts that we prove wrong, and somehow we are cowards? You are really clueless.

As I showed, Hans Blix HIMSELF said there were/are no WMD.

Can't get more clear then that.

The entire former Bush admin all say there were no WMD.

Yet here comes cybrtroll, magically claiming WMD found despite everyone saying otherwise.

Would you like to explain how Blix said there were no WMD?I qutoed him, can you refute that? Those are his words, not mine.

Would you also care to explain why Bush, Powell, Rummy, etc.....all stated they were wrong, and there were no WMD?

LOL, lemme guess....I predict another rant-filled post with me getting called a coward at least 4 times, and you will continue to present NO FACTUAL evidence to back up your BS.

It's funny that your call me coward, yet you hide behind the anonymous internet refusing to post any facts at all. You still haven't learned what coward means, it seems.

So despite Blix himself, Bush, Powell, Rummy, Rice, all saying you are 100% wrong, you claim you are right, without any proof. Yup, troll on little kiddie, one day you might grow up and move on to being a birther and truther.

So any time you actually want to post facts, and not lies and insults, go for it, we'll be waiting. But I think everyone on this board now truly knows how dishonest you are and how you have trolled other boards (without success, it seems). Anyone thinking we have WMD ranks up there with the birthers and truthers, so you wil rightly be pointed out as a lying troll. But that is what you want, so enjoy, you got what you wanted!

 

[cybrsage]

As I showed, Hans Blix HIMSELF said there were/are no WMD.

Can't get more clear then that.

I also showed where Hans Blix HIMSELF said there were WMDs found...and his team found them.

On one hand, you have the official report to the UN, whose entire purpose is to record WMD searches, findings, and destruction. That is what I used. On the other hand, you have a book whose entire purpose is to make money for the author by saying things gullible people want to hear. That is what you used.

Seems to me your hand is actually full of poop. You certainly are gullible.

However, if you want it clarified, you can stop being a coward and do the amazingly brave thing and write Hans Blix himself and ask him which one he lied in. I realize you are too cowardly to actually do this when it is far safer to instead troll an Internet Forum. It makes you feel more manly too, but it does not actually reduce your cowardace.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

trolling snipped for brevity

I was close, I was only off by one "coward" insult. You still don't know what the words means, obviously, but then again, trolls never are intellectually honest or accurate.

Look, you are a total ignorant troll. We get it. You refuse to present any evidence, and I've showed that the ENTIRE BUSH ADMIN all admit there are no WMD. I've shown Blix himself say there are no WMD.

So until you can present physical proof, we all know you are once again continuing your constant lying and trolling.

So enjoy your partnership with Rick Santorum, because he is probably literally the only other person in the US that agrees with you. And that is truly pathetic.

 

[cybrsage]

I was close, I was only off by one "coward" insult. You still don't know what the words means, obviously, but then again, trolls never are intellectually honest or accurate.

I notice you are still too scared to actually write the man whose book you say has "the real info" in it and ask him why he lied to the UN in his report.

Coward.

 

[Jhhnn]

I notice you are still too scared to actually write the man whose book you say has "the real info" in it and ask him why he lied to the UN in his report.

Coward.

Such a nasty troll. Here's your hero, GWB, obfuscating in circles as he admits there were no WMD's in Iraq-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs

So, uhh, he's lying too?

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

I notice you are still too scared to actually write the man whose book you say has "the real info" in it and ask him why he lied to the UN in his report.

Coward.

Why on earth should I write him? I have quoted him saying their are no WMD. I have showed that the entire Bush admin all have publicly, "on the record" admitted there are/were no WMD. The only one that believes this is you and Rick Santorum.

The burden on proof is on you. I have already PROVED my case, but you won't admit it.

LOL, now I am scared....really? Of a mental midget troll like yourself? ROFL.

Maybe you should write him, but I doubt you would believe anything he said anyway.

Again, how do you explain EVERYONE saying "on the record" that there were no WMD? Once again, you are just like the flat-earthers or truthers in your absurdity and ignorance.

Oh, BTW the definition of coward, to help you understand that you have no clue how to use it.

a person who lacks courage in facing danger, difficulty, opposition, pain, etc.; a timid or easily intimidated person.

Sorry, you really think you are going to intimidate me to get me to stop pointing out your lies? Don't think so! nice try, please try again later.

 

[cybrsage]

Such a nasty troll. Here's your hero, GWB, obfuscating in circles as he admits there were no WMD's in Iraq-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs

So, uhh, he's lying too?

Yawn. If you want to boor people, write a letter to Hans Blix and boor him with your inane attempts to say he was lying to the UN.

 

[cybrsage]

Why on earth should I write him? I have quoted him saying their are no WMD.

You quote him in a book, whose purpose is to suck money from fools like you. I quote him in an official report to the UN.

Now, one of these must be a lie. If you want to know which, you will have to gain the courage to write him and ask him which one he lied in.

I know you will not, because you are a coward. It is far safer to rant on an anonymous Internet message board.

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

You quote him in a book, whose purpose is to suck money from fools like you. I quote him in an official report to the UN.

Now, one of these must be a lie. If you want to know which, you will have to gain the courage to write him and ask him which one he lied in.

I know you will not, because you are a coward. It is far safer to rant on an anonymous Internet message board.

LOL at the clueless troll. Given I didn't buy his book, he didn't "suck" any money from me, sorry.

You AGAIN fail to explain how the ENTIRE BUSH ADMIN all publicly, on-the-record state there were no WMD.

So instead of being only capable of typing coward over and over, why don't you answer that question?

Then answer why Blix would state there are no WMD. He has, many times.

Then answer why your are a troll and cannot accept basic facts. Let's see how many other crazy unsupported positions you hold.

Was Obama born in the US? yes/no only (you bailed on this several times)

Was there a conspiracy behind 9/11?

DO you think the world is flat?

Do you think the moon landings were faked?

BTW, given that we have to ask those questions should be a total mark of shame, since it shows we all know you are so totally ignorant, we have to see if you actually believe these fantasies.

 

[cirrrocco]

Why on earth should I write him? I have quoted him saying their are no WMD. I have showed that the entire Bush admin all have publicly, "on the record" admitted there are/were no WMD. The only one that believes this is you and Rick Santorum.

The burden on proof is on you. I have already PROVED my case, but you won't admit it.

Beautifully owned. Good Job GTC

I think maybe if you highlight the quotes by each bush admin with who said what, that could help Cybernotsosage

 

[GarfieldtheCat]

Beautifully owned. Good Job GTC

I think maybe if you highlight the quotes by each bush admin with who said what, that could help Cybernotsosage

cybrtroll is one of the GOP faithful....they don't use or want facts, they have their "faith" that they know they are always right, and everyone else is wrong.

He probably is a birther too, he refused to comment on it, then did the "it doesn't matter if he was born in the US or not". classic sign of a birther not wanting to admit it.

But other people have show links to google searches about his blatant trolling in other forums, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Hopefully he will be banned, and can move on to the next forum to troll away.

 

[cybrsage]

LOL at the clueless troll. Given I didn't buy his book, he didn't "suck" any money from me, sorry.

You AGAIN fail to explain how the ENTIRE BUSH ADMIN all publicly, on-the-record state there were no WMD.

So instead of being only capable of typing coward over and over, why don't you answer that question?

Then answer why Blix would state there are no WMD. He has, many times.

Then answer why your are a troll and cannot accept basic facts. Let's see how many other crazy unsupported positions you hold.

Was Obama born in the US? yes/no only (you bailed on this several times)

Was there a conspiracy behind 9/11?

DO you think the world is flat?

Do you think the moon landings were faked?

BTW, given that we have to ask those questions should be a total mark of shame, since it shows we all know you are so totally ignorant, we have to see if you actually believe these fantasies.

Beautifully owned. Good Job GTC

I think maybe if you highlight the quotes by each bush admin with who said what, that could help Cybernotsosage

cybrtroll is one of the GOP faithful....they don't use or want facts, they have their "faith" that they know they are always right, and everyone else is wrong.

He probably is a birther too, he refused to comment on it, then did the "it doesn't matter if he was born in the US or not". classic sign of a birther not wanting to admit it.

But other people have show links to google searches about his blatant trolling in other forums, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Hopefully he will be banned, and can move on to the next forum to troll away.

Who cares what the GOP, Bush, Madonna, Cher, Boris Yeltsin, or Gandhi said about WMDs in Iraq? The issue is what Hans Blix (the guy being paid to look for, find, and destroy them) said about WMDs in his official report to the UN.

I know you guys like to toss about other names and pretend they are important, but they are not.

So, using HANS BLIX'S UN REPORT, we see he was finding, and destroying, WMDs in Iraq shortly before the invasion.

CowardTheCat then appears and says he read a book written by Hans Blix that says something other than what the UN Report says. He is, of course, too scared to ask the guy who wrote both which account is true...the official report to the UN or the book where he intended to use to make himself rich after his job at the UN ended.

Bush has nothing to do with the UN report Hans Blix wrote and nothing to do with the book Hans Blix wrote, bringing him (or anyone else) up is just a way of trying to deflect from cowardace.

We are back to there being an official UN report detailing the finding of WMDs in Iraq shortly before the invasion and CowardTheCat pretending the UN Report does not exist in order to hide his fear.