Evolution a hoax? Ask a Republican Presidential Candidate...

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

Paul and Giuliani are the only two moderate libertarians running. Of the two, only Giuliani has a realistic shot at the nomination and has promising numbers when pitted against Hillary or Obama.

If Giuliani gets the nomination, he gets my vote.

I would hardly call Paul a 'moderate libertarian', he's very strong in his views. He's also the most principled politician in washington today. And Giuliani is your typical panderer, you'll see.

When taken as a whole on ALL issues, he is a moderate. Look at the link above. That's not a bad thing. A fanatical libertarian would never have a shot.

But one has to face reality. Paul doesn't stand a chance in hell at the nomination, much less against Hillary/Obama. Giuliani does. Do I like Paul? Sure! But me liking him doesn't make his poll numbers perform miracles. Nothing is going to do that.

Giuliani is the most libertarian candidate with a shot. A smart person would throw their weight behind the best guy who actually has a shot. Giuliani' nomination poll numbers are high enough, AND his numbers when pitted against Hillary/Obama are high enough as well.

Pragmatism wins over idealism any day in the real world.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

Paul and Giuliani are the only two moderate libertarians running. Of the two, only Giuliani has a realistic shot at the nomination and has promising numbers when pitted against Hillary or Obama.

If Giuliani gets the nomination, he gets my vote.

I would hardly call Paul a 'moderate libertarian', he's very strong in his views. He's also the most principled politician in washington today. And Giuliani is your typical panderer, you'll see.

When taken as a whole on ALL issues, he is a moderate. Look at the link above. That's not a bad thing. A fanatical libertarian would never have a shot.

But one has to face reality. Paul doesn't stand a chance in hell at the nomination, much less against Hillary/Obama. Giuliani does. Do I like Paul? Sure! But me liking him doesn't make his poll numbers perform miracles. Nothing is going to do that.

Giuliani is the most libertarian candidate with a shot. A smart person would throw their weight behind the best guy who actually has a shot. Giuliani' nomination poll numbers are high enough, AND his numbers when pitted against Hillary/Obama are high enough as well.

Pragmatism wins over idealism any day in the real world.

I generally don't trust those 'political compass' ratings. If you look at his voting record, you'll see he's a very strong libertarian. He backs up his talk, ALWAYS.

I guarantee you, Giuliani is another Bush. He'll say anything to get elected.

 

[DougK62]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

Paul and Giuliani are the only two moderate libertarians running. Of the two, only Giuliani has a realistic shot at the nomination and has promising numbers when pitted against Hillary or Obama.

If Giuliani gets the nomination, he gets my vote.

I would hardly call Paul a 'moderate libertarian', he's very strong in his views. He's also the most principled politician in washington today. And Giuliani is your typical panderer, you'll see.

When taken as a whole on ALL issues, he is a moderate. Look at the link above. That's not a bad thing. A fanatical libertarian would never have a shot.

But one has to face reality. Paul doesn't stand a chance in hell at the nomination, much less against Hillary/Obama. Giuliani does. Do I like Paul? Sure! But me liking him doesn't make his poll numbers perform miracles. Nothing is going to do that.

Giuliani is the most libertarian candidate with a shot. A smart person would throw their weight behind the best guy who actually has a shot. Giuliani' nomination poll numbers are high enough, AND his numbers when pitted against Hillary/Obama are high enough as well.

Pragmatism wins over idealism any day in the real world.

I generally don't trust those 'political compass' ratings. If you look at his voting record, you'll see he's a very strong libertarian. He backs up his talk, ALWAYS.

I guarantee you, Giuliani is another Bush. He'll say anything to get elected.

All of the front-runners on both sides will say anything to get elected. That's why they're leading.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Aikouka
Do you honestly think that just because someone doesn't believe in evolution that it will curb their ability to lead politically?

Yes.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: DougK62

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

Paul and Giuliani are the only two moderate libertarians running. Of the two, only Giuliani has a realistic shot at the nomination and has promising numbers when pitted against Hillary or Obama.

If Giuliani gets the nomination, he gets my vote.

I would hardly call Paul a 'moderate libertarian', he's very strong in his views. He's also the most principled politician in washington today. And Giuliani is your typical panderer, you'll see.

When taken as a whole on ALL issues, he is a moderate. Look at the link above. That's not a bad thing. A fanatical libertarian would never have a shot.

But one has to face reality. Paul doesn't stand a chance in hell at the nomination, much less against Hillary/Obama. Giuliani does. Do I like Paul? Sure! But me liking him doesn't make his poll numbers perform miracles. Nothing is going to do that.

Giuliani is the most libertarian candidate with a shot. A smart person would throw their weight behind the best guy who actually has a shot. Giuliani' nomination poll numbers are high enough, AND his numbers when pitted against Hillary/Obama are high enough as well.

Pragmatism wins over idealism any day in the real world.

I generally don't trust those 'political compass' ratings. If you look at his voting record, you'll see he's a very strong libertarian. He backs up his talk, ALWAYS.

I guarantee you, Giuliani is another Bush. He'll say anything to get elected.

All of the front-runners on both sides will say anything to get elected. That's why they're leading.

In other words, there's no reason to vote for any of those lying scumbags. That's why i'm voting for ron paul.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

Paul and Giuliani are the only two moderate libertarians running. Of the two, only Giuliani has a realistic shot at the nomination and has promising numbers when pitted against Hillary or Obama.

If Giuliani gets the nomination, he gets my vote.

I would hardly call Paul a 'moderate libertarian', he's very strong in his views. He's also the most principled politician in washington today. And Giuliani is your typical panderer, you'll see.

When taken as a whole on ALL issues, he is a moderate. Look at the link above. That's not a bad thing. A fanatical libertarian would never have a shot.

But one has to face reality. Paul doesn't stand a chance in hell at the nomination, much less against Hillary/Obama. Giuliani does. Do I like Paul? Sure! But me liking him doesn't make his poll numbers perform miracles. Nothing is going to do that.

Giuliani is the most libertarian candidate with a shot. A smart person would throw their weight behind the best guy who actually has a shot. Giuliani' nomination poll numbers are high enough, AND his numbers when pitted against Hillary/Obama are high enough as well.

Pragmatism wins over idealism any day in the real world.

I generally don't trust those 'political compass' ratings. If you look at his voting record, you'll see he's a very strong libertarian. He backs up his talk, ALWAYS.

I guarantee you, Giuliani is another Bush. He'll say anything to get elected.

OK, and when Giuliani gets the nomination, who will you vote for? Hillary/Obama?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Amused
http://www.ontheissues.org/Ron_Paul.htm

http://www.ontheissues.org/Rudy_Giuliani.htm

Paul and Giuliani are the only two moderate libertarians running. Of the two, only Giuliani has a realistic shot at the nomination and has promising numbers when pitted against Hillary or Obama.

If Giuliani gets the nomination, he gets my vote.

I would hardly call Paul a 'moderate libertarian', he's very strong in his views. He's also the most principled politician in washington today. And Giuliani is your typical panderer, you'll see.

When taken as a whole on ALL issues, he is a moderate. Look at the link above. That's not a bad thing. A fanatical libertarian would never have a shot.

But one has to face reality. Paul doesn't stand a chance in hell at the nomination, much less against Hillary/Obama. Giuliani does. Do I like Paul? Sure! But me liking him doesn't make his poll numbers perform miracles. Nothing is going to do that.

Giuliani is the most libertarian candidate with a shot. A smart person would throw their weight behind the best guy who actually has a shot. Giuliani' nomination poll numbers are high enough, AND his numbers when pitted against Hillary/Obama are high enough as well.

Pragmatism wins over idealism any day in the real world.

I generally don't trust those 'political compass' ratings. If you look at his voting record, you'll see he's a very strong libertarian. He backs up his talk, ALWAYS.

I guarantee you, Giuliani is another Bush. He'll say anything to get elected.

OK, and when Giuliani gets the nomination, who will you vote for? Hillary/Obama?

Write-in for Ron Paul if he's not on my ballot. Don't kid yourself, Giuliani is just another opportunist like Bush was.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Oh how I wish the Republican party would get back to plain old conservative ideals rather than continuing to court the right-wing religous zealots.

<-- former registered Republican, now registered independent

 

[jonks]

I caught Paul on Bill Maher a couple weeks ago. The big disappointment was his statement that there is still a real debate about global warming with reputable scientists on both sides. That's the argument the tobacco companies used to make about cigarettes. If 99% of scientists say something, and you can find 1% who say something else, does that constitute a "real" debate? If your answer is yes, I think we have a fundamentally different definition of debate. I would call this a "mock" debate. To push the point to extremes, just because I claim gravity doesn't exist, doesn't mean there is a real debate as to it's existence, even if I were a physicist. Ask the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Phokus


Write-in for Ron Paul if he's not on my ballot. Don't kid yourself, Giuliani is just another opportunist like Bush was.

And your write in will be wasted, and be a defacto vote for Hillary/Obama.

And then we'll be headed into the greatest growth of authoritarian socialism in 40 years.

Congrats!

 

[ch33zw1z]

that's funny, politicians enforce my belief we came from monkeys..

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Feldenak
Oh how I wish the Republican party would get back to plain old conservative ideals rather than continuing to court the right-wing religous zealots.

<-- former registered Republican, now registered independent

Well, there was ONE republican in that debate that wasn't completely worthless:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCqyxhMy1R8&mode=related&search=

:thumbsup: Ron Paul! :thumbsup:

I agree with him on some pretty good points.