Evil gun saves Bar owner

[Ulfwald]

We take you now to Goose Creek, South Carolina, where another evil gun has done the unthinkable--it's saved the life of a business owner!

It happened early Sunday morning. 38-year-old Michael Colbourne was repairing a freezer at the Good Time Bar and Grill. He surprised a man trying to pry open a video game machine. Armed with a crowbar, the intruder advanced on Colbourne.

Colbourne was prepared. He shot the burglar in the head and chest. His attacker is in serious condition at a local hospital and will be charged with burglary. Police do not intend to file charges against Colbourne. It's a clear-cut case of self-defense.

These are the stories the media doesn't want you to hear, my friends. These are the stories that give the gun grabbers fits. These are the stories that punch big, gaping holes in the idea that guns are bad for Americans.

Just ask yourself: What if Michael Colbourne didn't own that gun? What if he'd been required to store the ammunition separately? What if he'd been forced to remove a trigger lock before being able to use it? My guess is the burglar wouldn't have responded if Colbourne had said, "Hang on a second while I remove this trigger lock from my gun and load it." He'd have beaten Colbourne to within an inch of his life...or killed him.

Guns save lives. Gun control does not. Just ask Michael Colbourne.


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[tontod]

Ulfwald, what do you expect to gain out of these posts??

 

[PCResources]

I don't think that evil guns should be allowed anywhere, good guns is another matter though...

Patrick

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

<< Ulfwald, what do you expect to gain out of these posts?? >>



He is obviously trying to irritate us all with his glib pomposity to the point that one of us tries to break into his home and give him the talking-to he so richly deserves, at which time he and his hallowed sidearm will ventilate the intruder until he looks like Swiss cheese. Hell, the horrid MIDI music on his Web page alone is enough to make me want to take up arms against him.

That or he is just a rabidly dogmatic creep.

 

[PCResources]

<< Guns save lives. Gun control does not. Just ask Michael Colbourne. >>



Hmmm, guns are used for what, to aid poor women who have difficult labors?

Get real man, guns like a snubnose can only be used for one thing (no, not hunting, not target practice), to kill people and that is what they are used for, when you shoot someone dead, are you really saving a life?

Patrick

 

[Tominator]

YES! They are saving lives....open you eyes and read...as hard as that might be...

 

[classy]

Family learns lessson
Pellet gun wound hospitalizes boy
BY VANESSA ADELMAN
DAILY NEWS STAFF

Nine-year-old Joseph Beall Jr. sat in his hospital bed, connected to tubes and drifting in and out of sleep after the nurse gave him something for his pain.
Joseph's friend, Braxton Jackson, sat on the empty bed next to him, a look of sadness in his eyes, worried about Joseph's condition.
Lisa Beall, Joseph's mother, sat next to her son, relieved he was out of danger. He spent two days in Onslow Memorial Hospital's intensive care unit after being shot with a pellet gun June 2. He has been moved to the pediatric unit, where he will remain for the next week.
For Lisa Beall of Hubert the danger time has passed. The caution when it comes to pellet guns -- or all guns -- however, will never go away.
&quot;The advice I'd give to children is to immediately tell a parent if they've been hurt, even if they think (the pellet) bounced off of them,&quot; Beall said. &quot;And to parents, I'd tell them to make sure they don't leave guns -- any gun --lying around, but to lock them up, make sure they're not loaded and treat them like any other gun.&quot;
Joseph Beall was wounded the night of June 2 while playing at Braxton's house. The boys came across a pellet gun belonging to Braxton's father. Braxton and his dad spent the earlier part of the day target shooting.
The boys, who grew up around guns, said they did not know the pellet gun was loaded. As they played with it, Joseph was shot with a pellet that penetrated his side and lodged only inches from his aorta.
But he didn't know it at the time and the boys decided not to tell anyone what happened.
&quot;I saw him put his hands to his side,&quot; Braxton said. &quot;We thought it just grazed him, and we didn't want to get into trouble.&quot;
During the night Joseph began to get sick and claimed his stomach was upset. Finally, at about 5 a.m. June 3, Joseph told his mother what happened and she rushed him to the emergency room. Doctors could not operate so close to the major artery, so had to leave the pellet in Joseph's body.
It wasn't until three days later that the boys recounted the entire story to their parents in Joseph's hospital room.
&quot;I'm still scared, worried and a bit sad,&quot; Braxton said. &quot;I would tell people not to play with (pellet guns) because someone could get really hurt.&quot;
Braxton hand-delivered a get-well card to his friend. &quot;You are still my friend,&quot; Braxton wrote. &quot;I'm sorry.&quot;
Both boys said they have learned a great lesson, not just about playing with guns, but also about immediately telling the truth.
&quot;He has said he doesn't want to play with any more guns,&quot; Beall said, speaking for her son who could only nod and whisper &quot;yes&quot; to his mother's statement. &quot;And he said if he had only told us earlier, maybe it would have helped the situation.&quot;
Joseph Beall Sr. and Lisa advise other parents to treat pellet guns and BB guns just like any other firearm. The Bealls keep their guns unloaded with trigger locks in place. The firearms are locked in a gun cabinet.
Jacksonville Deputy Police Chief Sammy Phillips said this is a good way to store guns, including pellet and BB guns.
&quot;Parents need to be real careful when they give their kids a pellet gun,&quot; he said. &quot;A pellet gun can be made to shoot with the same power as a .22-caliber gun.&quot;
Pellet guns look like a rifle and shoot small, bullet-like, pointed projectiles. BB guns are different in that the ammunition is small and round.
A Jacksonville city ordinance bans discharging either in the city limits.
&quot;If you do buy one of these for your child, a safety trigger lock is a very good idea,&quot; Phillips said. &quot;Keep it locked in a gun cabinet or up in a high place, out of children's reach.&quot;
Phillips said either of these guns are just as dangerous as other guns.
&quot;A BB gun can shoot someone's eye out and pellet guns can have even more dangerous results,&quot; he said. &quot;They can hurt you very badly.&quot;

 

[PCResources]

<< &quot;Hang on a second while I remove this trigger lock from my gun and load it.&quot; >>



If you are going to make these kinds of statements you should at leas know what a trigger lock really is, it can be removed by flicking your finger... it is that easy...

And if you don't have the time to do it while the criminal is watching, then do it before you take out your gun, you should be able to, otherwise maybe a gun is too complicated for you...

Patrick

 

[Azraele]

Ulf: This has been debated ad nauseum. Please don't take this the wrong way, but...while I do not contest your right to your opinion, if you're gonna post news, you might push your position further by simply posting the facts, and let the reader decide, rather than cramming your stance down our throats.

 

[Ulfwald]

Don_Vitto. Actually, I hope that people will realize a few things:

1 Guns are not the problem, people are.
2 Stories about children being shot are often sensationalized by the media, but when something like this happens, it is given a few lines on the back pages of a newspaper, or it is the last story on the 6 o'clock news. I have done nothing more than bring a factual news article to the forums.

And by the way,

<< That or he is just a rabidly dogmatic creep. >>

, be a little more polite when refering to me. I do not attack you, so i would appreciate it if you would not attack me.

 

[Killbat]

Damnit people. No Ulfwald is not just being a pain the ass, he's creating much needed exposure for the normally hidden viewpoint on this issue.

 

[yllus]

<< Colbourne was prepared. He shot the burglar in the head and chest. His attacker is in serious condition at a local hospital and will be charged with burglary. Police do not intend to file charges against Colbourne. It's a clear-cut case of self-defense. >>


SCORE!!!! And he got away with it too, cool!

Seriously, about the trigger lock issue. Isn't the point to have the lock on when at home, and not when carrying it on your person or at your business? This isn't really a very strong anti-trigger lock argument.

 

[PCResources]

<< YES! They are saving lives....open you eyes and read...as hard as that might be... >>



Yeah, like one incident is going to change the way the population looks at guns...

Guns are used for one thing, you know what? it is not to save lifes...

Patrick

 

[EvanFerguson]

i don't mind if the gun laws are strict......i'm never gonna own one

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

<< Don_Vitto. Actually, I hope that people will realize a few things:

1 Guns are not the problem, people are.
2 Stories about children being shot are often sensationalized by the media, but when something like this happens, it is given a few lines on the back pages of a newspaper, or it is the last story on the 6 o'clock news. I have done nothing more than bring a factual news article to the forums.

And by the way,

<< That or he is just a rabidly dogmatic creep. >>

, be a little more polite when refering to me. I do not attack you, so i would appreciate it if you would not attack me. >>



OK, then I would appreciate it if you would put a muzzle on your overbearingly smug attitude, and listen to the other side of the argument you JUST WON'T STOP MAKING. You come off like a broken record and a dull one at that.

 

[LordMaul]

<< Get real man, guns like a snubnose can only be used for one thing (no, not hunting, not target practice), to kill people and that is what they are used for, when you shoot someone dead, are you really saving a life?

Patrick >>



You are so right!

I agree completely! Some dude kills another with a gun, and one person STILL dies! NO MATTER WHAT! I mean, you know, even though the person who was killed died because he was trying to kill someone while commiting a crime, someone still got killed, right? If the burgler killed the other guy, a person would have died anyway, so why not ban guns, because no matter WHAT, someone is going to die, even if they ARE just trying to defend themselves! YA GOT THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, ULFWAD???????


</end blatant sarcasm>

 

[PCResources]

<< 1 Guns are not the problem, people are. >>



I fully agree, most people would have shot other people anyway...

The gun is an easy way out, too easy in my opinion... I have gone through dire military training in special forces divisions but most people have not...

You think that a gun will help but for most people it will only aid them in their quest for getting arrested or shot to death...

Patrick

 

[Ulfwald]

Once again, I only intend to bring forth information to show that guns are not the problem, Criminals are.

Don_Vitto, you are3 acting like a typical liberal, accusing me of being hardheaded and resorting to name calling and personal attacks. What's next? You going to accuse me of being a hate monger? Just because I firmly believe in my constitutional right to keep and bear arms does not mean that I am going to kill someone. the reason i keep one is to protect my life and that of my family. so deal with it.

Also, I do have the freedom of speech, and so do you. I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.

 

[Tominator]

PCResources

I could post HUNDREDS of instances wher a gun in a law abiding citizen's hand saved a life....special ed training huh?

 

[PCResources]

<< I could post HUNDREDS of instances wher a gun in a law abiding citizen's hand saved a life....special ed training huh? >>



And while you are at it, pick up a few news where people have been shot to death accidentally...

It should not be an easy task to get a gun, more people will hurt themselves with their gun than any one else...

I used to be a green beret, i know how to use a gun, i have a gun, actually, i have several, i keep them in a gun locker and the ammo in another locker, and even if you could get hold of both you would have to assemble the rifles and guns before you can use them...

Patrick

 

[Tominator]

PCResources

Open your eyes. Accidental deaths are at a historical low according to government records.



<< more people will hurt themselves with their gun than any one else... >>



Cops have the largest number of accidental misfires of any group....let's ban their guns as well.

You ain't got a gun I couldn't assemble.

 

[Yeeny]

<< Ulf: This has been debated ad nauseum. Please don't take this the wrong way, but...while I do not contest your right to your opinion, if you're gonna post news, you might push your position further by simply posting the facts, and let the reader decide, rather than cramming your stance down our throats. >>



Amen Azraele, I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

<< Once again, I only intend to bring forth information to show that guns are not the problem, Criminals are.

Don_Vitto, you are3 acting like a typical liberal, accusing me of being hardheaded and resorting to name calling and personal attacks. What's next? You going to accuse me of being a hate monger? Just because I firmly believe in my constitutional right to keep and bear arms does not mean that I am going to kill someone. the reason i keep one is to protect my life and that of my family. so deal with it.

Also, I do have the freedom of speech, and so do you. I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend your right to say it. >>




I'm not as liberal as you think. I have never insinuated anything about you killing anyone or being a hatemonger (except to the extent you are not, at least apparently, a very likeable guy, thus inspiring a very specific sort of hatred!). At all. As far as I can see the only thing you are guilty of is flame-baiting and record-setting levels of smugness. You have never (at least from what I have seen) advanced your cause one iota, because your tone defeats whatever persuasiveness your carefully-chosen anecdotes might otherwise have.

 

[Siva]

Guns are meant to kill, not save lives. Guns don't fix the problem, not when they are as easily available to the criminals as the law abiding citizen. For every single one of ulfwald's single-sided repetative stories there are hundreds of gun murders in the US alone. Now if some gun nuts would address the issue of gun murders out there, and how its possible to see guns as helpful to society when you look at all the deaths, I might be convinced. Posts such as this further solidify my position, if you can't address every side of the issue you are just beating yourself into a hole.

 

[Aihyah]

hehe whats your point? the guy was obviously mentally ill or something, crow bar on an arcade machine? Thats pathetic. His only mistake was not carrying a gun.. criminals bound to have the gun drawn b4 u. kinda hard to draw your gun to ugh defend yourself in such a position.