Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!

[PJABBER]

I am not 100% sure this has anything to do with it, this was from a point in time preceding the era when Muhammad lived... But perhaps the methods of craft where used also... And somebody interpreted it wrong... No the real reason is that when something has no face you cannot really relate too it. It is psychological.

Well, the article is pretty clear that has nothing to do with it.

I see the Islamic faith as being an intolerant one. It is not the only one, just the one that has grown to be significant to a huge population and thus to even those who are not adherents.

When there is a certainty that your way is the only way and that by extension all others are blasphemers in the eyes of your God and you have been counseled to kill unbelievers should they not see the light, well you have what the world is facing right now.

The Taliban destroyed some magnificent Buddhist edifices in Afghanistan because they represented a false God to their eyes. Others prefer to kill cartoonists and caricaturists...

Vandalized Afghanistan

Why the Taliban Destroyed the Buddhist Statues

 

[William Gaatjes]

Pictured: The dramatic moment a 15-year-old Iraqi suicide bomber gave herself up

One more (I've seen the video and couldn't go past where the kid puts the knife to the man's throat, so it's definitely not for the squeamish):

Afghanistan: Boy-Executioner Video Outrages Afghans, World

Some female bombers may have been motivated by revenge, and U.S. commanders believe al Qaeda in Iraq is increasingly seeking to exploit women unable to deal with the grief of losing husbands, parents, children and others to the violence.

It sounds inhuman, but it is not. These fundamental "nutcases" of religious groups are very aware of the grief of people. And they are very good at exploiting it like in this article. If the west wants to fight these groups, the west is better of doing research on the psychological level. Another such an example is to use children or pregnant women as shields. These fundamental nutcases are Psychopaths.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

 

[William Gaatjes]

Well, the article is pretty clear that has nothing to do with it.

I see the Islamic faith as being an intolerant one. It is not the only one, just the one that has grown to be significant to a huge population and thus to even those who are not adherents.

When there is a certainty that your way is the only way and that by extension all others are blasphemers in the eyes of your God and you have been counseled to kill unbelievers should they not see the light, well you have what the world is facing right now.

The Taliban destroyed some magnificent Buddhist edifices in Afghanistan because they represented a false God to their eyes. Others prefer to kill cartoonists and caricaturists...

Vandalized Afghanistan

Why the Taliban Destroyed the Buddhist Statues

I am sure the taliban destroyed many Buddhist edifices which did not fit with their version of religion. But in many countries this has happened by different groups, some religious, some not.

 

[Linflas]

This is an opportunity for all those "mainstream muslims" to show the tolerance we keep hearing about but see precious little of. They are free to be offended and voice their offense. What they are not free to do is butcher people to silence speech and concepts they object to. If they want to continue to be silent while what we are told is a fringe element is allowed to define their faith then they should not be surprised that people assume they support the extemists.

 

[bfdd]

Do all Muslims strap bombs on children? Should we show respect to a country that fire bombed civilian areas?

This argument would be great if the majority of Muslims actually came out against what the "minority" groups say and/or do. The problem is they don't come out and condemn them, they stay silent in what we can only assume is support. So yes, if no one says they have a problem with it, they must be ok with it.

 

[Kappo]

This argument would be great if the majority of Muslims actually came out against what the "minority" groups say and/or do. The problem is they don't come out and condemn them, they stay silent in what we can only assume is support. So yes, if no one says they have a problem with it, they must be ok with it.

Has there ever been a time of peace in Muslimville? If it was a very small minority (like with Christians) and the overall feeling was "good", it would be a different story. But they have been killing people REGULARLY since forever. Excluding very few fringe groups, you rarely hear other religions talking about killing other people because they don't believe what they do.

Hell, we have tons of lunatic christians that manage to not kill people.

 

[bfdd]

Has there ever been a time of peace in Muslimville? If it was a very small minority (like with Christians) and the overall feeling was "good", it would be a different story. But they have been killing people REGULARLY since forever. Excluding very few fringe groups, you rarely hear other religions talking about killing other people because they don't believe what they do.

Hell, we have tons of lunatic christians that manage to not kill people.

Uh.. you do know that during the dark ages the Muslim world was having the opposite right? There was a point in time when they were some of the most enlightened people in the world, why and how that changed I don't understand.

 

[Kappo]

Uh.. you do know that during the dark ages the Muslim world was having the opposite right? There was a point in time when they were some of the most enlightened people in the world, why and how that changed I don't understand.

The point is that if you remove everyone except Muslims from Earth. Do they stop fighting?

No. Think Highlander.

 

[bfdd]

The point is that if you remove everyone except Muslims from Earth. Do they stop fighting?

No. Think Highlander.

Obviously, they fight amongst themselves as well. I'm just saying it wasn't ALWAYS like this.

 

[Perknose]

This juvenile reaction is a perfect example of your cartoon ideology, PJ.

 

[bfdd]

This juvenile reaction is a perfect example of your cartoon ideology, PJ.

wah

 

[peonyu]

I prefer the one where Muhammed is just chilling in NYC. Looking over his homies as they go about thier day.

 

[nick1985]

This juvenile reaction is a perfect example of your cartoon ideology, PJ.

wah

 

[Perknose]

wah

wah

Look at the stupid sheep bleat.

Bleat, sheep, bleat.

 

[Fear No Evil]

This juvenile reaction is a perfect example of your cartoon ideology, PJ.

I'm guessing you aren't going to call your own moderator who has an animated picture of Muhamed as his avatar juvenile? Of course not.. because that wouldn't fit your agenda.

 

[Perknose]

I'm guessing you aren't going to call your own moderator who has an animated picture of Muhamed as his avatar juvenile? Of course not.. because that wouldn't fit your agenda.

Of course his avatar is juvenile. Grow up, punk.

 

[Slick5150]

I hope muslims in this country take part in this country to show just how stupid the actions of the batshit crazy clerics are in the middle east nowadays. THere isn't anything in the Koran that says you can't have a picture of Mohamad. There isn't anything ANYwhere that says that. THey just made it up a few years ago and acted like everyone should have always known better.

Screw that. Most muslims are good people. It's time they show the nutjobs for what they are.

 

[Noobtastic]

 

[PJABBER]

Molly Norris, the artist that drew the poster in the OP, wants you to know that while she is irate about the threats against on Trey Parker and Matt Stone, she is "a private person who draws stuff."

So, do not send your stuff to her. Please. She suggests emailing your most worthy drawings "to a guy at: drawmohammedday@gmail.com"

"As a cartoonist, I felt so much passion about what's happened and I wanted to kind of counter Comedy Central's message that they sent about being afraid," Norris continued. "That's a cartoonist's job, is to be non-PC."

On her blog, Midnight Corndog, she further explains her motivations:

I really hope this sort of creative expression brings ALL people of our country together in dialogue. I am personally afraid of Muslims because the peaceful folks of that religion do not often come forward to differentiate themselves from any radical elements! I mean, if I do not hear from moderate Muslims then how am I supposed to KNOW that they, too, are not harboring ill intent toward non-Muslims?!

Please if you are a non-radical Muslim tell people about yourselves. Write to newspapers. Have community round tables. When Americans don’t know what you really think or feel, we might stay mired in stereotypes. Offer us knowledge!

Cartoonist overwhelmed by response to "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day"

By JAMIE GRISWOLD
MyNorthwest.com

After a Seattle artist's cartoon went viral, she says she's not going with it.

Molly Norris drew up a sketch declaring May 20th "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" after Comedy Central cut a portion of a South Park episode following a death threat from a radical Muslim group.

Norris explained her motivation on an appearance on KIRO Radio's Dave Ross show. "As a cartoonist I just felt so much passion about what had happened I wanted to kind of counter Comedy Central's message they sent about feeling afraid."

Listen to Molly Norris on Dave Ross

Producers of South Park had announced Thursday that Comedy Central removed a speech about intimidation and fear from their show after a radical Muslim group warned that they could be killed for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

The group said it wasn't threatening South Park producers Trey Parker and Matt Stone, but it included a gruesome picture of Theo Van Gogh, a Dutch filmmaker killed by a Muslim extremist in 2004, and said the producers could meet the same fate. The website posted the addresses of Comedy Central's New York office and the California production studio where South Park is made.

The momentum drawn from Norris' cartoon was more than the artist had anticipated and by Sunday Norris had posted the following message on her website:

"I am NOT involved in "Everybody Draw Mohammd Day!" I made a cartoon that went viral and I am not going with it. Many other folks have used my cartoon to start sites, etc. Please go to them as I am a private person who draws stuff"

On her website Norris originally explained the campaign was not meant to disrespect any religion, but rather meant to protect people's right to express themselves.

In her present post Norris directs those interested in submitting drawings to the other sites who've taken up the campaign.

 

[Brainonska511]

I hope muslims in this country take part in this country to show just how stupid the actions of the batshit crazy clerics are in the middle east nowadays. THere isn't anything in the Koran that says you can't have a picture of Mohamad. There isn't anything ANYwhere that says that. THey just made it up a few years ago and acted like everyone should have always known better.

Screw that. Most muslims are good people. It's time they show the nutjobs for what they are.

Why? Depicting Mohammad can still be offensive to moderate Muslims. They just won't threaten violence when someone does it.

To do something like this is to just add fuel to the fire and just pushes peoples buttons for no real reason other than to be a dick.

http://okieonthelam.com/images/CF01.jpg

Funny how you'd post something like that when you're quick to call anyone that disagrees with the actions of Israel an anti-Semite to try and quash their speech.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm guessing you aren't going to call your own moderator who has an animated picture of Muhamed as his avatar juvenile? Of course not.. because that wouldn't fit your agenda.

Where can I find this animated avatar you speak of?

 

[Linflas]

Why? Depicting Mohammad can still be offensive to moderate Muslims. They just won't threaten violence when someone does it.

To do something like this is to just add fuel to the fire and just pushes peoples buttons for no real reason other than to be a dick.



Funny how you'd post something like that when you're quick to call anyone that disagrees with the actions of Israel an anti-Semite to try and quash their speech.

The South Park guys have gone after Christians and Jews and they respond by writing letters to Comedy Central and sponsors. What they don't do is issue threats on websites calling for the death of the creators of South Park.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why? Depicting Mohammad can still be offensive to moderate Muslims. They just won't threaten violence when someone does it.

To do something like this is to just add fuel to the fire and just pushes peoples buttons for no real reason other than to be a dick.



Funny how you'd post something like that when you're quick to call anyone that disagrees with the actions of Israel an anti-Semite to try and quash their speech.

Not very long ago we had a thread about the abuse that some priests committed. It is a very serious thing and not to be dismissed. Some here are concerned about offending Muslims, but were quite ready to destroy the Catholic Church utterly. Jesus can be depicted any way at all, and the Christians can go screw themselves. BOO YAH!

Well, that's how it is in a free society. People are going to be offended and purposefully at times.

Well I haven't called for the destruction of Islam, however some have used it as a means to effectively censor others.

My suggestion is that if moderates are offended, then two things. First, in our society it's worse to gag someone's freedom of expression than it is to post a cartoon of a religious leader. There was a Muslim on The Daily Show and he had it right. It may make him uncomfortable to see an image of Mohamed, but it is far worse to him that someone use his religion as an excuse to kill another who does it.

Give that man an A+ for understanding what's important.

I don't buy that Muslims (or any other religious group you care to name) are so special that they can't be mocked. It happens here all the time, and it's protected speech.

I and everyone else has to deal. If people like this terrorist wannabe get sat on hard, then there will be less provocation. Until then those who are against our basic liberties are going to be mocked by the means which bugs them the most. I suggest the blame goes to whom it belongs.

 

[2Xtreme21]

Do I win?

Fuck religion.

 

[Brainonska511]

Not very long ago we had a thread about the abuse that some priests committed. It is a very serious thing and not to be dismissed. Some here are concerned about offending Muslims, but were quite ready to destroy the Catholic Church utterly. Jesus can be depicted any way at all, and the Christians can go screw themselves. BOO YAH!

Well, that's how it is in a free society. People are going to be offended and purposefully at times.

Well I haven't called for the destruction of Islam, however some have used it as a means to effectively censor others.

My suggestion is that if moderates are offended, then two things. First, in our society it's worse to gag someone's freedom of expression than it is to post a cartoon of a religious leader. There was a Muslim on The Daily Show and he had it right. It may make him uncomfortable to see an image of Mohamed, but it is far worse to him that someone use his religion as an excuse to kill another who does it.

Give that man an A+ for understanding what's important.

I don't buy that Muslims (or any other religious group you care to name) are so special that they can't be mocked. It happens here all the time, and it's protected speech.

I and everyone else has to deal. If people like this terrorist wannabe get sat on hard, then there will be less provocation. Until then those who are against our basic liberties are going to be mocked by the means which bugs them the most. I suggest the blame goes to whom it belongs.

I don't have a problem with mocking Islam like the Church and others have been mocked. I just think though that the "draw Mohammed day" isn't so much as mocking as just a childish way of pushing people's buttons.

And as much as I dislike IHV's posts, the cartoon he posted was very accurate in regards to the political cartoons from a few years back. People do need to just deal with the offensiveness without sending out death threats.