"Every kiss begins with Kay's"

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.
There's already a problem if you have to give your husband a Christmas list (can we stop calling it xmas? It's Christmas, not crossmas).

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Read carefully: All commercials are based on some form of extortion.

There are people who are paid big money to exploit everything. To find what appeals to your deepest desires. Hasn't failed yet, and people are already in the mindset expecting things that they shouldn't expect.

The most obvious and fucked up one is the engagement ring. What's the point of an engagement ring? If you can answer that question I'll leave you alone.
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Good lord, I don't think less of people who like fine jewelery, I find Kay's commericals noxious because they depict men as simpering pansies and their target auidence is probably the group of people who can least afford to be be buying overpriced crap jewelery on payments.

Whatever they're doing, it's working. In the 21st century, women expect jewelery. Now, don't get me wrong, I know not all women are the same, but deep down there's that desire for something flashy and expensive and I don't think you could honestly tell me you're any different. Men have little to do with the equation, because if they don't buy something big and nice, they have to face the look of disappointment.

Women have put men in an ugly spot, one where it's too dangerous to mess around with mixed signals.

Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.

I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Well I'm glad that you're immune to the propaganda, but you're few and far between.

I'm sure that many men would love to have a wife like you who doesn't like high-priced jewelry and has such simple demands as far as gifts go. It would make our lives much easier.

That being said, on a slightly different note, how old is the newest car in your driveway and was it bought new?
 

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.
There's already a problem if you have to give your husband a Christmas list (can we stop calling it xmas? It's Christmas, not crossmas).

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Read carefully: All commercials are based on some form of extortion.


A lot of times thruput the year both of us see things that we think might be really cool to own..however over time our desire for said item may have faded and we wouldn't consider buying it as a gift as money well spent. Asking each other for lists is direct communication that saves us a lot of time and spares us a lot of bullshit.


 
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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
A lot of times thruput the year both of us see things that we thinkl might be really cool to own..however over time our desire for said item may have faded and we woulsdn't consider buying it as a gift as money well spent. Asking each other for lists is direct communication that saves us a lot of time and spares us a lot of bullshit.

Defeats the purpose of Christmas if you have to ask for something. Maybe it's just me, but I'd much rather get something I didn't know about/ask for/expect. It adds appeal to the holiday. Sure, getting things you need/want is nice, but why do you have to get it on an occasion? Why not just pick it up, I mean, a $25 fleece doesn't require an occasion.

How about Valentines day? Women expect a romantic day, a bouquet of flowers, chocolate, whatever. Something. But why? Why not give flowers on any other day of the week? Why not a romantic occasion just for the hell of it?

People are being told to do things on certain days, because someone a long time ago said it should be that way. That's not fair, and it's certainly not right.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Good lord, I don't think less of people who like fine jewelery, I find Kay's commericals noxious because they depict men as simpering pansies and their target auidence is probably the group of people who can least afford to be be buying overpriced crap jewelery on payments.

Whatever they're doing, it's working. In the 21st century, women expect jewelery. Now, don't get me wrong, I know not all women are the same, but deep down there's that desire for something flashy and expensive and I don't think you could honestly tell me you're any different. Men have little to do with the equation, because if they don't buy something big and nice, they have to face the look of disappointment.

Women have put men in an ugly spot, one where it's too dangerous to mess around with mixed signals.

You got that right. Buddy of mine in our close circle of friends bought his wife a $12,000 engagement ring.

And what's the first thing that all the women in our group did when they saw her ring? Oh how many carats? Can I see it?

Then they all start putting their rings up beside to see how theirs measured up -- pretty poorly I must say. You could just see the look of greed and jealousy in their eyes.

12K that could have been invested to help buy a home wasted on a ring? some women are amazingly stupid.
I'm sure he's had a huge chunk to throw down on a house as well. He was renting a house with me and four other guys for the past 4 years and was paying at most around $450 a month in rent/utilities plus probably another $400 a month for his truck.

He's pulling down about $70k a year and his wife makes probably around $40k. They just bought a new townhouse here in town for $210k and I'm quite sure they put down quite a bit.

That being said, I nearly shit a brick when I scanned the insurance paperwork in for him and saw the price after he bought it. $12,000 is a lot of effing money for a ring.
 

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Good lord, I don't think less of people who like fine jewelery, I find Kay's commericals noxious because they depict men as simpering pansies and their target auidence is probably the group of people who can least afford to be be buying overpriced crap jewelery on payments.

Whatever they're doing, it's working. In the 21st century, women expect jewelery. Now, don't get me wrong, I know not all women are the same, but deep down there's that desire for something flashy and expensive and I don't think you could honestly tell me you're any different. Men have little to do with the equation, because if they don't buy something big and nice, they have to face the look of disappointment.

Women have put men in an ugly spot, one where it's too dangerous to mess around with mixed signals.

Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.

I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Well I'm glad that you're immune to the propaganda, but you're few and far between.

I'm sure that many men would love to have a wife like you who doesn't like high-priced jewelry and has such simple demands as far as gifts go. It would make our lives much easier.

That being said, on a slightly different note, how old is the newest car in your driveway and was it bought new?


lol, a 1991 that was purchased used with only 72k miles on it,it runs like a charm and was well worth the $200 it cost to buy:)
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.
There's already a problem if you have to give your husband a Christmas list (can we stop calling it xmas? It's Christmas, not crossmas).

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Read carefully: All commercials are based on some form of extortion.


A lot of times thruput the year both of us see things that we think might be really cool to own..however over time our desire for said item may have faded and we wouldn't consider buying it as a gift as money well spent. Asking each other for lists is direct communication that saves us a lot of time and spares us a lot of bullshit.

Not to be ugly, but you and your hubby are a bit "older" than the crowd that these jewelry commercials aim at.

They seem to aim at people in their mid to late 20s into their 30s. Once people hit your age, the just don't give a shit anymore about frilly stuff.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.
There's already a problem if you have to give your husband a Christmas list (can we stop calling it xmas? It's Christmas, not crossmas).

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Read carefully: All commercials are based on some form of extortion.

There are people who are paid big money to exploit everything. To find what appeals to your deepest desires. Hasn't failed yet, and people are already in the mindset expecting things that they shouldn't expect.

The most obvious and fucked up one is the engagement ring. What's the point of an engagement ring? If you can answer that question I'll leave you alone.

The engagement ring is a holdover from olden times that has become the female version of a penis "Mine's bigger than yours" mentality...lol.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
A lot of times thruput the year both of us see things that we thinkl might be really cool to own..however over time our desire for said item may have faded and we woulsdn't consider buying it as a gift as money well spent. Asking each other for lists is direct communication that saves us a lot of time and spares us a lot of bullshit.

Defeats the purpose of Christmas if you have to ask for something. Maybe it's just me, but I'd much rather get something I didn't know about/ask for/expect. It adds appeal to the holiday. Sure, getting things you need/want is nice, but why do you have to get it on an occasion? Why not just pick it up, I mean, a $25 fleece doesn't require an occasion.

How about Valentines day? Women expect a romantic day, a bouquet of flowers, chocolate, whatever. Something. But why? Why not give flowers on any other day of the week? Why not a romantic occasion just for the hell of it?

People are being told to do things on certain days, because someone a long time ago said it should be that way. That's not fair, and it's certainly not right.

Here's the deal with that pink hoodie, I want a certain weight and style,the ones I've seen are cheaply made,crappy looking.My husband knows my taste and if he finds what I want it will be truly appreciated.
 

Geekbabe

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Lol, I gave my husband my Xmas list a few days ago... there is one item on that list
I want a pink fleece hoodie type jacket with a hood,probably cost no more than $25.
There's already a problem if you have to give your husband a Christmas list (can we stop calling it xmas? It's Christmas, not crossmas).

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value a lot of things but over priced babbles aren't on the list and I think such commericals border on emotional extortion.

Read carefully: All commercials are based on some form of extortion.


A lot of times thruput the year both of us see things that we think might be really cool to own..however over time our desire for said item may have faded and we wouldn't consider buying it as a gift as money well spent. Asking each other for lists is direct communication that saves us a lot of time and spares us a lot of bullshit.

Not to be ugly, but you and your hubby are a bit "older" than the crowd that these jewelry commercials aim at.

They seem to aim at people in their mid to late 20s into their 30s. Once people hit your age, the just don't give a shit anymore about frilly stuff.


oh they aim for us boomers too,they've got plenty of noxious "show her you'd marry her all over again" ads for anniversary rings airing too, to say nothing of the mercedes benz ads,lol.
 
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I'm sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you or anything, I'm merely trying to understand the mindset and explain the point of view from a guy. You just happen to be the only woman posting. ;)

I just want you to understand how much men feel obligated to do something just because someone said it should be that way. Like I said earlier, we're in a tight spot and certain things are expected from us.
 

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Originally posted by: LoKe
I'm sorry if it seems like I'm attacking you or anything, I'm merely trying to understand the mindset and explain the point of view from a guy. You just happen to be the only woman posting. ;)

I just want you to understand how much men feel obligated to do something just because someone said it should be that way. Like I said earlier, we're in a tight spot and certain things are expected from us.

That "tight spot"though is one you can easily get out of simply by talking with the women you're involved with,sharing your values and such and looking for women who value similar things.
 

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Not that I am a a jewelry buyer, and the wife doesn't like it anyway, but I think their slogan is pretty clever.

"Every kiss begins with Kay" (the word kiss begins with the letter k)
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I find it slightly less annoying than the Jared / Weisfields / etc. ads where everyone is gasping in shock that the boyfriend / husband shopped at the one proper source of the shiny stuff.

(women)
He shopped at Blah?
How'd he know about Blah!?!?

(men)
How'd you know to shop at Blah?
My dad told me . . . not really, he's stupid like me, my mom told him to tell me.

[whisper] "He went to Jared." [/whisper]

what's with the crazy guy at the last minute with the fire and waving his hands?
 

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Originally posted by: kranky
Not that I am a a jewelry buyer, and the wife doesn't like it anyway, but I think their slogan is pretty clever.

"Every kiss begins with Kay" (the word kiss begins with the letter k)

My favorite ad... and I see a lot of them as I belong to a program that rewards me for watching them.. is the ad for GM.. the one where the guy gets into the SUV and is confronted with a squirrel who bursts into song and as he drives along birds fly in thru the sunroof and begin singing...lol, the bit where the wolf falls in and swallows the bird is pretty funny.
 

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Bless you, Geekbabe. The world could use more like you.

There are very few things I personally find more unattractive than greed. Especially when it's over ridiculous things like jewelry.
 

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Originally posted by: Balt
Bless you, Geekbabe. The world could use more like you.

There are very few things I personally find more unattractive than greed. Especially when it's over ridiculous things like jewelry.

I value having a modest but comfortable home,the ability to set my table with high quality foods, the freedom of knowing that our bills are all paid when they arrive,not having CC debt. There is security in those things and from security comes freedom.
 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value having a modest but comfortable home,the ability to set my table with high quality foods, the freedom of knowing that our bills are all paid when they arrive,not having CC debt. There is security in those things and from security comes freedom.

You are so right. Taking on avoidable debt is self-imposed slavery.
 

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Originally posted by: kranky
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I value having a modest but comfortable home,the ability to set my table with high quality foods, the freedom of knowing that our bills are all paid when they arrive,not having CC debt. There is security in those things and from security comes freedom.

You are so right. Taking on avoidable debt is self-imposed slavery.



And you just know that a lot of those poor chumps buying that over priced jewelery from Kay's will still be making payments on it come next Xmas.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: Balt
Bless you, Geekbabe. The world could use more like you.

There are very few things I personally find more unattractive than greed. Especially when it's over ridiculous things like jewelry.

I value having a modest but comfortable home,the ability to set my table with high quality foods, the freedom of knowing that our bills are all paid when they arrive,not having CC debt. There is security in those things and from security comes freedom.

I don't know why that isn't enough for most people. They'd rather spend thousands on something that most people couldn't even distinguish from glass. :confused:
 

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
I find it slightly less annoying than the Jared / Weisfields / etc. ads where everyone is gasping in shock that the boyfriend / husband shopped at the one proper source of the shiny stuff.

(women)
He shopped at Blah?
How'd he know about Blah!?!?

(men)
How'd you know to shop at Blah?
My dad told me . . . not really, he's stupid like me, my mom told him to tell me.

[whisper] "He went to Jared. Got a sub." [/whisper]
fixed.