You guys don't get it do you, you're turning this into a gay lifestyle debate which is exactly what AidanJM wants but he doesn't actually have to say anything anymore.
Cut it out.
Cut it out.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
If that disturbed you, I have many darker places, right here on these forums, I could take you.
And....I didn't use the "S" word. Since he so forthwrightly thread crapped, with his shockingly obvious post, I made a statement to him, to deter him from making such again. Hence, my statement, "Aidan, if you'll stay out of the hetero threads, I promise I'll stay out of the gay ones. Deal?"
Did you think any of us think, none of us will ever cross post again? LOL
Why was his post a thread crap? He was describing his own romantic experience in relation to the thread topic. Is it a crap simply because he's gay?
Again, are gays not allowed to relate their romantic experiences while heteros do so constantly? If not, why?
And yes, it is segregation. You wish to keep "gays" out of "hetero" posts. What next? Put them in the back of the bus? Separate drinking fountains?
He had every right to post his experience in this thread. It's on topic.
You're getting a little wrapped around the axle with you antics here, judge.
Here is what is at issue here:
Subject asked, "Ever kissed a girl in the rain?"
Do you see the OP asking "Ever kissed a MAN in the rain?"
Nobody here gives one flying crap if aidanjm is gay, or whether he has a right to express himself. He went "off topic", by posting what he did, in this thread. Get it?
The problem is when he says
'I kissed a guy in the shower, does that count?' essentially means... 'I know this doesn't count but I'm gonna throw this out there to annoy people, I kissed a guy in the shower.'
Kissing a person in the rain is kissing a person in the rain, plain and simple, and he sought to incorporate his gay agenda into this however he can.
End of story.
I like you have lots of gay people, but gays are like any other group, eventually the majority gets sick of them throwing it in their faces, and that lattitude of understanding that they once had is gone because of it.
I've had it up to my neck with some of this sh!t.
Meh, I know a few people who were attracted to men and chose to get married and have children and live happy lives anyways, but yes, I am not ignorant enough to say that there aren't major genetic and environmental factors that contribute to sexual orientation -- but everything that you do is a matter of choice. Some people would say that this is denying who you really are (I am guessing that is what you believe), but I disagree because I know these people and they are happy. Sex isn't the end all thing to a meaningful life BTW.
Again, I don't have to agree with everything my friends do to still accept them as human beings that are worthy of my respect and friendship. There are plenty of things that I disagree with, with my hetero friends too. It doesn't mean it hurts our friendship. They understand this, and I don't judge them (that is not my place <if they ask what I believe I will tell them, but otherwise who cares> ). Even if my viewpoints are different from theirs, it is a matter of seeing past our differences. I mean, come on, there are plenty of things that I am sure they disagree with how I do things, but they put up with me just as much.
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BTW, for you Christian fundies, do you think Jesus didn't hang out with gay people or treat them with just as much love (or even more love) as someone who was straight? :roll:
You can not be conformed to the world's ideals while still treating everyone with compassion.
How many gay people do you know? Most of the ones I know (or at least respect and talk to) don't flaunt their sexuality everywhere they go.
I think it is a matter of maturity really. Straight peopel who flaunt their sexual exploits are just as annoying IMO.
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Oh bullsh!t. Had it been someone saying "I kissed a girl in the shower" NO ONE would be up in arms over it like they are over this. Would it have been a case of a heterosexual throwing his sexuality in people's face? Of fscking course not.
He IN NO WAY threw anything in anyone's face. My example proves that, and destroys your absurd argument.
The only throwing of anything here are the petty fits of people who for some reason cannot stand a gay person talking about their love lives LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD.
Tons, I went to an all guys highschool, my hairdresser, most of the guys I met in the movie industry (make up artists, wardrobe people etc), I lived on Davie St. in Vancouver, where 95% of the people on the street at any given time are gay.
I've even been asked before if I'm gay, and I don't have an issue with it.
I agree with you 100%, it's a sign of maturity and accepting the fact that most people will accept you for who you are and that you don't have to let everyone know anymore.
Hah I have a reputation here on ATOT for being a sarcastic prick, and everyone knows it.
I woulda been the first one to quote and say, dude thats not in the rain. You know it, and so does half of ATOT that someone else woulda said that too.
Cut the crap.
Ryan, you're gay, right? If so, your post is dead on, if I'm wrong, please forgive me. Either way, Good job!
No, I'm not, but the question has been asked many times before. But as a visible minority and someone that can identify with both sides of the equation I usually figure this out kinda quick.
There's a fine balance in a symbiotic relationship between the different groups in every nation, when one pushes to hard, the others push back.
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Nice try, but an utter failure. Reread the thread. Hell, reread your own first post and your description of the poster. You called his post his "gay agenda." Had he said he kissed a girl in the shower would you accuse him of a "hetero agenda"??? Of fscking course not.
Cut the crap indeed.
I haven't pretended to be tactful at all because I'm sick of being polite to AidanJM and his posts, the first 200-300 fine yeah whatever, then game the Oscars are biased against gays thread (or was it the emmy's)..
Then I just got annoyed.
Again, Amused, I am not saying that aidanjm was flaunting his sexuality at all. I am writing in response to RyanSengara's post. If you took a little time to calm down a little and read my posts, you will see that I don't have a problem at all with aidanjm at all.
Stop reading into my posts and pulling out a few words and getting pissy about it. I am not the one making a big deal out of the sexual orientation "issue" (if there is a real issue). It is you, as well as all of the homophobes here.
Yeah I don't think amused gets the point that this isn't about sexual orientation, if some idiot posted as much bullshit about him and his girlfriends (not to mention how much I hate stupid YAGT threads), I would treat them the same.
Bias exists in this world, but people (not gays in particular, but minorities, activist groups, whatever), excaservate the issue for themselves by putting themselves out there and painting a giant target on them.
BINGO. It is a double standard. And again, I have no issue with what aidanjm said. It was meant to be funny. Who cares? You guys need to quit flaming each other seriously. Tolerance works both ways BTW.
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I totally agree, but I usually choose to not add flame to the fire. I have come to realize that most people who are ignorant (choose to be ignorant). They don't want to view things from a different perspective. And BTW, most people are ignorant in one form or another (myself included).
If you realize this, just as Socrates was always trying to point out, you have reached a level of wisdom that will only allow you to grow more. Faith and reason fill in the gaps.
Anyways, I digress. Sometimes you can address it but once it devolves into a whose $@#$@# is bigger, it become pointless to try to convince a person. Sometimes people have to learn on there own time, and it is best just to be there when they are willing to listen.
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He posted ONE sentence relating a romantic experience in a thread ASKING FOR THAT VERY THING.
In this case, you have no point.
You can live in denial for the rest of your life, but the fact remains that gays are socially persecuted for relating romantic stories no more, or less than heteros do. This thread proves that.
No he hasn't.
He's posted many sentences in MANY threads.
And his romantic experience didn't pertain to what was being asked for.
Cut the crap mang.
Well despite 2 pages now of a internet civil rights movement, I'd like to stay on topic:
I made out with the younger sister of my first room mate (the room mate was a girl) in the rain. We were all drinking, I stepped outside to load some climbing gear into my car so I wouldn't have to do it in the morning, the sister followed me. On the way back she pushed me up against the soaking wet wall of the apartment building and we made out for awhile. She ended up in my bed that night.
Of course, this was all 2 weeks into the lease, and made for a somewhat awkward first few months living with the room mate (I was 19, the room mate was 21, the sister was 17).
I made out with the younger sister of my first room mate (the room mate was a girl) in the rain. We were all drinking, I stepped outside to load some climbing gear into my car so I wouldn't have to do it in the morning, the sister followed me. On the way back she pushed me up against the soaking wet wall of the apartment building and we made out for awhile. She ended up in my bed that night.
Of course, this was all 2 weeks into the lease, and made for a somewhat awkward first few months living with the room mate (I was 19, the room mate was 21, the sister was 17).
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