Even Reagan Wasn’t a Reagan Republican

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From the "no duh" section of the world - Newsweek proffers this little ditty of how St. Reagan wouldn't be considered a republican as the "republican" of today would see it...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/237737

Share! and Enjoy!
 
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bamacre

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Reagan said a lot of good things, did a lot of bad things. Unfortunately, most Republicans only remember things he said.

Edit: Kinda like Obama. :D
 

Hacp

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From the "no duh" section of the world - Newsweek proffers this little ditty of how St. Reagan wouldn't be considered a republican as the "republican" of today would see it...

http://www.newsweek.com/id/237737

Share! and Enjoy!

Of course regan wasn't a regan republican. Regan republicans were democrats that were tired of Democrats catering to blacks and poor people.
 

ElFenix

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This type of litmusless approach would enrage conservatives today.
fairly certain it would enrage the nutters on both ends of the political spectrum.



anyway, the nutter right seems to have woken up to the fact that it has been duped by politicians talking up the nutter right but actually doing little for them.
 
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CallMeJoe

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Reagan said a lot of good things, did a lot of bad things. Unfortunately, most Republicans only remember things he said.
Edit: Kinda like Obama. :D
He played a Great President on TV. More like Martin Sheen.
 

UberNeuman

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Of course regan wasn't a regan republican. Regan republicans were democrats that were tired of Democrats catering to blacks and poor people.

Could you please make the attempt to spell former President Reagan's name correctly before your rant?
 

RedChief

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Is this the same Newsweek that said were all socialist now???

Newsweek commenting on Reagan is like Fox commenting on Clinton.
 

werepossum

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Is this the same Newsweek that said were all socialist now???

Newsweek commenting on Reagan is like Fox commenting on Clinton.

This. Newsweek is no different from the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos except for removing the profanity, misspellings, and references to Hitler.
 

ShawnD1

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Interesting article. I always thought Nixon was some kind of hardcore conservative weirdo, but in this article he sounds like a pretty reasonable guy when it comes to politics.
 

UberNeuman

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This. Newsweek is no different from the Huffington Post or the Daily Kos except for removing the profanity, misspellings, and references to Hitler.


again - what did you find disagreeable in the article - I'm sure there's enough red meat to rip into....
 

werepossum

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again - what did you find disagreeable in the article - I'm sure there's enough red meat to rip into....
I didn't read the article. Asking me to comment on yet another Newsweek article bashing Republicans is like asking "But other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the show?" I simply note that Newsweek (We're all socialists now, just some of us need some time in the camps) is continuing its long existence of promoting the progressive viewpoint and bashing conservatives whilst pretending to be somehow a non-partisan news organization, and I move on. In other news, water is still wet.

It's not read meat, just another smelly fish Newsweek is trying to pass off as steak.
 

GodisanAtheist

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Interesting article. I always thought Nixon was some kind of hardcore conservative weirdo, but in this article he sounds like a pretty reasonable guy when it comes to politics.

-Nixon was a pretty smart guy and generally on the level when it came to his policies. He had the good and the bad, but will always be remembered for being awkward and weird and a crook.
 

Jhhnn

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I didn't read the article. Newsweek didn't tell me what I wanted to hear the last time I read it, so I won't read it ever again! So there! Neener-neener!

But he still has a strong opinion about the article itself, kinda like having an opinion about the taste of bananas when you've never tried one...
 

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anyway, the nutter right seems to have woken up to the fact that it has been duped by politicians talking up the nutter right but actually doing little for them.

it seems like we have the political memory of children though. or probly more likely, most people are too lazy to bother reading up on the history... justifiably so, it's either fact check the politicians or live your life :-/
 

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Interesting article. I always thought Nixon was some kind of hardcore conservative weirdo, but in this article he sounds like a pretty reasonable guy when it comes to politics.

the article paints him strangely. in terms of international politics, he was a realist for sure. that's more "conservative" than someone like bush, who ascribed to the liberal ideal of democratic peace theory.

that article is wierd overall. it mentions how we supported iran against the soviets (mentioning how cheney would be appalled), but fails to mention that that was prior to the iranian revolution. IE, shah of iran time.

also talks about how reagan raised taxes in 1986, but doesnt state it right. he raised tax revenues by passing the 1986 tax reform act. it lowered taxes and broadened the tax base... that's not the same as "raising taxes". in fact, it's very far from it.

there's alot of other half-truths throughout the article. when i see shit like that, i tend to ignore the rest of the contents.
 
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Fayd

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-Nixon was a pretty smart guy and generally on the level when it came to his policies. He had the good and the bad, but will always be remembered for being awkward and weird and a crook.

HE IS NOT A CROOK!

:D



btw, i bought this and am hanging it on my wall.

Robot_nixon_poster.jpg
 

Mani

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Interesting article. I always thought Nixon was some kind of hardcore conservative weirdo, but in this article he sounds like a pretty reasonable guy when it comes to politics.

Nixon was a pretty hardcore conservative - it's just that the current brand of conservatism has just gone apeshit.
 

Linflas

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Well, what parts on this article do you find erroneous?

Well the whole bit about immigration is disingenuous at best. The opposition to amnesty today is mostly due to the failure of the 1986 reform where amnesty was granted in exchange for illusory curbs on illegal immigration. Of course being Newsweek the article takes as a matter of faith that opposition to illegal immigration automatically means opposition to legal immigration which is not the case at all. In any case Reagan was never a litmus test Republican and would have been the first to reject the idea of some list of ideological purity used to determine who is and is not a Republican.
 

Linflas

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Nixon was a pretty hardcore conservative - it's just that the current brand of conservatism has just gone apeshit.

This would be the hardcore conservative Richard M Nixon that did more to implement Johnson's Great Society programs than Lyndon Johnson himself? The Nixon that started the EPA, started OSHA, and implemented wage and price controls phases 1 through whatever?
 

Mani

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This would be the hardcore conservative Richard M Nixon that did more to implement Johnson's Great Society programs than Lyndon Johnson himself? The Nixon that started the EPA, started OSHA, and implemented wage and price controls phases 1 through whatever?

And the one who favored Universal Health care, yes. He'd be considered a liberal by today's standards. Hell, even Barry Goldwater would be, and like the OP indicates, Reagan would probably be considered a RINO by today's standards. Conservatism has moved pretty far to the right over the years, hasn't it?
 
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