Even Biden knows gun control won't do much.

[monovillage]

If you got that out of this:



then I guess my benefit of the doubt was misplaced and you are every bit the illiterate dumbfuck you play on the internet. Moving on (to a different illiterate dumbfuck).

If you had attacked my argument (that some firearms are designed from the ground up to be target firearms) instead of attacking me personally because you don't like the arguments i'm making it would have been fine. Instead you dropped to personal attacks and you got a personal attack in response. Go figure.

 

[Bowfinger]

Yea, but they wouldn't be half as bad if it weren't for the anti-gun nut jobs that tell lie after lie, and saying shit like "AR-15's can shoot down planes", or the "I'm pro 2A, I think everyone should have a right to a hunting rifle, or a 10 shot handgun".

I agree there are a lot of dishonest and often stupid arguments coming from the gun control crowd, but responding with equally dishonest and stupid counterarguments doesn't win any converts. At best it convinces the moderates that both sides are idiots; at worst it drives them away from the side with shrill thugs who yap about taking out feds who come for their guns. In order to be persuasive, we need to counter the stupid and dishonest with reason and intelligent discussion.

Honestly, imo, if the gun control crowd actually made an educated argument once in a while it would help a lot, but 99% of the time, it's either ignorance, or emotion

Exactly this, but it cuts both ways.

 

[Bowfinger]

If you had attacked my argument (that some firearms are designed from the ground up to be target firearms) instead of attacking me personally because you don't like the arguments i'm making it would have been fine. Instead you dropped to personal attacks and you got a personal attack in response. Go figure.

You're lying again. He had at least two paragraphs directly addressing your argument. Indeed, I suspect that's why you're so butt-hurt, because he quite convincingly showed it was a retarded diversion from meaningful discussion. It only serves to undermine other Second Amendment supporters who try to use intelligent, relevant arguments. Do the Second Amendment a favor by sitting down and shutting up. Either that or take a Xanax and count to a thousand before you post. Right now you're a liability to the 2nd.

(FYI, your "personal attack in response" was especially stupid, given that it was exactly backwards. It only showed you didn't really bother to read what he said before you leaped to the wrong conclusion and started shooting off your mouth in ignorance. Again.)

 

[sourceninja]

Then the people who intervened in the Arizona shooting were truly heroes.

All the same I'd rather that a person not be able to fire off 30 rounds without reloading.

You can't really blame the people in the school however, when there were two perpetrators though.

As far as firing semi-auto weapons it's easy to lose track of how many rounds you've fired when you're focusing on aiming. Especially when you're not the only person on the range.

It always amazes me that people can't keep count. I've never had a problem knowing exactly how many rounds I have in my weapon be it at the range or in competitions. Yet everyone I take to the range continues to try to shoot after the slide locks back.

 

[Tom]

It always amazes me that people can't keep count. I've never had a problem knowing exactly how many rounds I have in my weapon be it at the range or in competitions. Yet everyone I take to the range continues to try to shoot after the slide locks back.

riddle me this, if the people you take to the range are stupid, are you stupid for taking them there ?

 

[ElFenix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TTyoppK_aDM

So then why push for more gun control?

same reason republicans push for abortion controls. gotta inflate that balloon with hot air.

 

[Lithium381]

I'd like to see a debate style between the anti's and some educated pro-2a people and the anti's would get torn to shreds. Not like on Piers Morgan where he just talks over them and uses straw-men arguments and ignores facts they put forward. He's anti-gun and there isn't enough logic there to accept that there is a legitimate reason gun owners are worried and DO have a right to own these weapons.

Their twisted sense of reality because they want guns GONE, not because they want to stop the violence.

 

[jpeyton]

riddle me this, if the people you take to the range are stupid, are you stupid for taking them there ?

You're too concerned about the activities of stupid people. Perhaps a byproduct of surrounding yourself with gun control advocates.

 

[disappoint]

Gun bans will just put more guns on the street. The law will have the opposite effect it is intended to have. You know how many people went out and bought assault rifles because a ban on assault rifles was eminent? They FLEW off the shelves. Now people that wouldn't have ordinarily even gone out to buy one bought one just in case they get banned.

 

[Jaepheth]

So then why push for more gun control?

Never let a tragedy go to waste.

 

[Munky]

He shot about 30 rounds with the extended magazine and people were close enough to interrupt him when he tried to reload.

There doesn't seems to be any definitive account of what exactly happened. But being able to shoot that many rounds without reloading is not anything anyone really needs.

Unless you go around fantasizing about shooting dozens of home invaders armed to the teeth.


Sure criminals will circumvent the law but the fact that they can buy firearms at gun shows in some states without getting a background check or that some states have ridiculously lax laws about straw dog buyers there is room to tighten up reasonable laws.

Funnily enough the NRA leader ship is at odds with a majority of the U.S. populace when it comes to making sure as many firearms buyers are subject to background checks as possible.

Funny how your absurd ideology isn't applied anywhere else. For example:

If that woman didn't drive during the blizzard, she wouldn't have hit a pedestrian. Do we ban women from driving in bad weather?

If that cop didn't have a gun, he wouldn't have shot innocent people. Do we ban cops from carrying guns?

But in the psypopath mind of a delusional leftist, if you could just restrict people from carrying anything more dangerous than a butter knife, then we'd all be blissfully coexisting like sheep.

And in case you haven't heard from people in other parts of the world, thugs do invade homes, they work in groups, they are armed, and they are not limited to 10-round magazines. Even in the leftist utopia known as Kalifornia.