Even Biden knows gun control won't do much.

[Matt1970]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TTyoppK_aDM

So then why push for more gun control?

 

[HomerJS]

In the Giffords shooting smaller magazine would have meant less people would have died.

 

[Mr.Mischief]

In the Giffords shooting smaller magazine would have meant less people would have died.

Sure, if he only carried one magazine.

 

[Doppel]

Oh Biden, you crazy old bastard.

But it's true, I realized this a little while ago. Those pushing for gun control are not actually stupid. They know it doesn't work. They are just looking for political points at the expense of those they will punish by making criminals.

 

[NoStateofMind]

lol the left lies exposed

 

[blankslate]

In the Giffords shooting smaller magazine would have meant less people would have died.

Sure, if he only carried one magazine.

He shot about 30 rounds with the extended magazine and people were close enough to interrupt him when he tried to reload.

There doesn't seems to be any definitive account of what exactly happened. But being able to shoot that many rounds without reloading is not anything anyone really needs.

Unless you go around fantasizing about shooting dozens of home invaders armed to the teeth.


Sure criminals will circumvent the law but the fact that they can buy firearms at gun shows in some states without getting a background check or that some states have ridiculously lax laws about straw dog buyers there is room to tighten up reasonable laws.

Funnily enough the NRA leader ship is at odds with a majority of the U.S. populace when it comes to making sure as many firearms buyers are subject to background checks as possible.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Oh Biden, you crazy old bastard.

But it's true, I realized this a little while ago. Those pushing for gun control are not actually stupid. They know it doesn't work. They are just looking for political points at the expense of those they will punish by making criminals.

Exactly. More control! More power! More government! Integrity be damned!

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Sure, if he only carried one magazine.

Exactly. The fact that he was tackled as he struggled to reload is irrelevant.

 

[Zebo]

I hope they dont ban guns. People haven't started copying the deadliest school killing ever and use simpleton guns instead. There are way more DPS way to cause mayhem people just copy what they see on news and tv tho. At least guns lets you stand a chance against these psychos.

 

[monovillage]

I hope they dont ban guns. People haven't started copying the deadliest school killing ever and use simpleton guns instead. There are way more DPS way to cause mayhem people just copy what they see on news and tv tho. At least guns lets you stand a chance against these psychos.

I was surprised we didn't have more school shootings after the media made such heroes out of Harris and Klebold for the Columbine shooting. The media was practically begging for copycats to boost ratings.

 

[jpeyton]

In the Giffords shooting smaller magazine would have meant less people would have died.

So future mass shootings are cool as long as the criminals follow new laws and stick with 10-round magazines. Got it.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Exactly. The fact that he was tackled as he struggled to reload is irrelevant.

I don't struggle to reload. It takes me a second if I count rounds and don't have to hit the bolt release. Slightly longer if I don't count rounds and have to release the bolt. Either way, if he struggled he was just some idiot with a gun. Which he was.

 

[Incorruptible]

The one smart thing that joe biden has said, Gun control doesn't work


And lol at this guy making up his BS and getting owned.

In the Giffords shooting smaller magazine would have meant less people would have died.

 

[fskimospy]

Exactly. The fact that he was tackled as he struggled to reload is irrelevant.

You don't understand. Real life is like Doom. You can shoot as much as you want so long as you have the ammo on you.

Government restricting the BFG 9000 is communism.

 

[jpeyton]

Exactly. The fact that he was tackled as he struggled to reload is irrelevant.

And what if the next guy doesn't struggle?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And what if the next guy doesn't struggle?

I'm sorry was the statement made not explicitly about Jared Loughner?

 

[blankslate]

And what if the next guy doesn't struggle?

The next guy didn't struggle... he was proficient at reloading and used a weapon for which a 30 round magazine is pretty standard.

 

[Matt1970]

In the Giffords shooting smaller magazine would have meant less people would have died.

Columbine proved that theory wrong. More that 75% of the rounds fired were from 10 round magazines that were reloaded atleast 8 times.

 

[blankslate]

Columbine proved that theory wrong. More that 75% of the rounds fired were from 10 round magazines that were reloaded atleast 8 times.

There were two shooters in Columbine. did they split up or stay together? That would make a lot of difference in any bystanders ability to try to stop a shooter who is reloading.

It's the only mass shooting that comes to mind immediately in which there was more than one shooter. Perhaps there were others but as far as the most infamous ones, I don't remember another with more than one shooter.

Perhaps this is wrong but it seems that the Columbine shooters actually planned their crime much more thoroughly than the Arizona mall shooter.

 

[xj0hnx]

Columbine proved that theory wrong. More that 75% of the rounds fired were from 10 round magazines that were reloaded atleast 8 times.

Shhhhhh, stop with the facts, they're trying to have an emotionally charged, and feelings driven circle jerk here.

 

[Matt1970]

Exactly. The fact that he was tackled as he struggled to reload is irrelevant.

He dropped the magazine. If he didn't drop the magazine there would have been a lot more dead.

 

[Matt1970]

There were two shooters in Columbine. did they split up or stay together? That would make a lot of difference in any bystanders ability to try to stop a shooter who is reloading.

It's the only mass shooting that comes to mind immediately in which there was more than one shooter. Perhaps there were others but as far as the most infamous ones, I don't remember another with more than one shooter.

Perhaps this is wrong but it seems that the Columbine shooters actually planned their crime much more thoroughly than the Arizona mall shooter.

Read the wiki page in it. There was atleast 1 time where they both went to the same table to reload. They were even talking with people while they were reloading. That was the big oppertunity and nobody did anything.

I don't know if you have been around many semi-automatic weapons when they fire but you aren't going to hear the slide lock kick in when the last round in a gun is fired. The ONLY way you are going to know someone ran out of amo is to see it. Most will be hiding and how many seconds do you wait after a round to stick your head up and see what is happening?

 

[jpeyton]

The next guy didn't struggle... he was proficient at reloading and used a weapon for which a 30 round magazine is pretty standard.

That scenario seems likely whether we pass a ban or not.

So why bother with legislation that only makes criminals out of law-abiding citizens?

 

[blankslate]

Read the wiki page in it. There was atleast 1 time where they both went to the same table to reload. They were even talking with people while they were reloading. That was the big oppertunity and nobody did anything.

Then the people who intervened in the Arizona shooting were truly heroes.

All the same I'd rather that a person not be able to fire off 30 rounds without reloading.

You can't really blame the people in the school however, when there were two perpetrators though.

As far as firing semi-auto weapons it's easy to lose track of how many rounds you've fired when you're focusing on aiming. Especially when you're not the only person on the range.

 

[Lithium381]

I'm against all of this agenda based gun-grabbing.. like anyone who can think rationally realizes it does NOT affect the criminals. They don't give two shits about magazine capcacity laws. Mr. Joe Gun Owner listens and is handicapped.

I would support a proposal that says in public, when carrying, a maximum of 10 rounds is permited in a magazine. . when you're at home, you can have whatever you want. Why should MY ability to protect my OWN HOME be comprimised by these politicians who have armed guards?

Another thing that irks me, and I may bring it up in another thread . . . .retired police and sometimes military are allowed to bypass these restrictions. Why? I doubt they're better shots.... under pressure, maybe? But what that is saying is the well-being of these individuals and their families are somehow more important than mine if i choose to follow these asinine laws?