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Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: keird
Originally posted by: Aimster
The Arab nations have stopped fighting Israel years ago.
You must be old.

meh. The nations of Hezbolla and Hamas get their money from taxing something.

Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.
& Hamas is poorly trained,equipped and funded. They make their rockets in some shop. & they don't even have an objective. If they stopped fighting with Israel they would have no reason to exist. They just want everyone to feel sorry for them.

Govts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia with their chain nations Kuwait, UAE, QATAR, and Jordan are strong. They are run by "families". The families are enjoying their unlimited credit card limit.

If you don't know anything about this issue, then just shut up.

Hisb'Allah is an outspoken enemy of Israel just like Hamas, both funded by Iran.
 

SamurAchzar

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Feb 15, 2006
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Why are the pictures of innocents killed by suicide bombers more deserving of our sympathy than the innocent Palestinians killed by unprovoked Israeli aggression?
Suicide bombings occur as direct retaliation from specific Israel attacks. You still remain blind to the news, don't you?

In what kind of world exactly does firing 60 rockets a day on cities does not constitute "provocation"?

rockets in retaliation of continued Israeli violation of international law and aggression?

wow, it really is easy for you guys to ignore what is going on when you turn a blind eye to unfiltered sources.

But yeah, the recent events are a gigantic clusterfuck. I haven't personally invested my attention into to the background involving these current events in so much as the ceasefire was simply left to expire without any negotiation. It seems nothing more than an excuse for each side to get back to killing.

Make no mistake, however, that the overriding issue behind Palestinian aggression is that the settlers remain ILLEGALLY on Palestinian land, granted them not merely by the centuries-long residency, but also by international law. Israel has continued their illegal invasion into this territory and the US Zionists continue to support them.

you would be tossing rocks and firing rockets too if it was your only recourse to reclaim what is rightfully and legally yours.

Hamas Agenda:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."

"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "

"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."

"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."

Text

Negotiation, you say?
 

Aimster

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Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: keird
Originally posted by: Aimster
The Arab nations have stopped fighting Israel years ago.
You must be old.

meh. The nations of Hezbolla and Hamas get their money from taxing something.

Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.
& Hamas is poorly trained,equipped and funded. They make their rockets in some shop. & they don't even have an objective. If they stopped fighting with Israel they would have no reason to exist. They just want everyone to feel sorry for them.

Govts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia with their chain nations Kuwait, UAE, QATAR, and Jordan are strong. They are run by "families". The families are enjoying their unlimited credit card limit.

If you don't know anything about this issue, then just shut up.

Hisb'Allah is an outspoken enemy of Israel just like Hamas, both funded by Iran.

You're not very bright.
Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.

Iran doesn't even want to destroy Israel.

You can believe all that little media propaganda as you wish. It just shows you don't know wtf you are talking about.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: keird
Originally posted by: Aimster
The Arab nations have stopped fighting Israel years ago.
You must be old.

meh. The nations of Hezbolla and Hamas get their money from taxing something.

Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.
& Hamas is poorly trained,equipped and funded. They make their rockets in some shop. & they don't even have an objective. If they stopped fighting with Israel they would have no reason to exist. They just want everyone to feel sorry for them.

Govts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia with their chain nations Kuwait, UAE, QATAR, and Jordan are strong. They are run by "families". The families are enjoying their unlimited credit card limit.

If you don't know anything about this issue, then just shut up.

Hisb'Allah is an outspoken enemy of Israel just like Hamas, both funded by Iran.

You're not very bright.
Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.

Iran doesn't even want to destroy Israel.

You can believe all that little media propaganda as you wish. It just shows you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Hisb'Allah has been very outspoken, if you had listened to what they said the last time around then maybe even you could have understood what they said.

Iran supports Hamas and Hisb'Allah financially, that should tell even a stupid fuck like you something.

It's not about media, it's about the flow of money, weapons, actions and outspoken words, if you want to close your eyes and hold your ears go right ahead, but then don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about.

 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Why are the pictures of innocents killed by suicide bombers more deserving of our sympathy than the innocent Palestinians killed by unprovoked Israeli aggression?
Suicide bombings occur as direct retaliation from specific Israel attacks. You still remain blind to the news, don't you?

In what kind of world exactly does firing 60 rockets a day on cities does not constitute "provocation"?

rockets in retaliation of continued Israeli violation of international law and aggression?

wow, it really is easy for you guys to ignore what is going on when you turn a blind eye to unfiltered sources.

But yeah, the recent events are a gigantic clusterfuck. I haven't personally invested my attention into to the background involving these current events in so much as the ceasefire was simply left to expire without any negotiation. It seems nothing more than an excuse for each side to get back to killing.

Make no mistake, however, that the overriding issue behind Palestinian aggression is that the settlers remain ILLEGALLY on Palestinian land, granted them not merely by the centuries-long residency, but also by international law. Israel has continued their illegal invasion into this territory and the US Zionists continue to support them.

you would be tossing rocks and firing rockets too if it was your only recourse to reclaim what is rightfully and legally yours.

Isn't "tossing rockets" during an internationally recognised cease fire an illegal act?

I suppose that Israel should just sit back and follow the agreement while the terrorists continously keep their war against Israel going? No retaliation what so ever, just accept it?

I wonder how you would feel if Mexico started shooting rockets against the "annexed" lands in the south?

Now Hamas has gone completely insane and told the different groups (primarily Al-Aqsa) to fire at Israel and when Israel fights back you think that is wrong?

Isreael even sent diesel, food and medical supplies into the area to minimise the suffering among the civilian population.

I never said Israel isn't right to retaliate. I'm simply saying that maybe 2% of Palestinian aggression ever occurs unprovoked, unlike what is being reported in the west. Again, it's completely duplicitous to interpret every Israeli action as retaliation for Palestinian aggression when it is actually the case far more often that Palestinians are retaliating for Israeli aggression that goes unreported in the west.

It also isn't simply that only Palestine broke the ceasefire. Both sides allowed it to expire. Israel had no desire to keep it going.



http://www.newyorker.com/repor.../070730fa_fact_remnick

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/...70903taco_talk_remnick
 

Aimster

Lifer
Jan 5, 2003
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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: keird
Originally posted by: Aimster
The Arab nations have stopped fighting Israel years ago.
You must be old.

meh. The nations of Hezbolla and Hamas get their money from taxing something.

Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.
& Hamas is poorly trained,equipped and funded. They make their rockets in some shop. & they don't even have an objective. If they stopped fighting with Israel they would have no reason to exist. They just want everyone to feel sorry for them.

Govts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia with their chain nations Kuwait, UAE, QATAR, and Jordan are strong. They are run by "families". The families are enjoying their unlimited credit card limit.

If you don't know anything about this issue, then just shut up.

Hisb'Allah is an outspoken enemy of Israel just like Hamas, both funded by Iran.

You're not very bright.
Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.

Iran doesn't even want to destroy Israel.

You can believe all that little media propaganda as you wish. It just shows you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Hisb'Allah has been very outspoken, if you had listened to what they said the last time around then maybe even you could have understood what they said.

Iran supports Hamas and Hisb'Allah financially, that should tell even a stupid fuck like you something.

It's not about media, it's about the flow of money, weapons, actions and outspoken words, if you want to close your eyes and hold your ears go right ahead, but then don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about.

weapons?
You said the destruction of Israel.

Iran doesn't give Hamas weapons. Nobody gives Hamas weapons. They are smuggled in from Egypt. Weapons like handguns and rpgs that are ineffective against Israeli tanks and aircraft. Weapons that are only good at controlling Palestine.

You claim Hezbollah and Iran want to destroy Israel.
Where are all the chemical weapons in Lebanon? Iran has enough chemical weapons in their inventory to destroy Israel. Why doesn't Hezbollah have these weapons? Surely they want to destroy Israel and so those their main supplier of weapons. Why are they leaving out chemical weapons?

Why Is Iran going to build the technology to create a nuclear bomb without anyone doing a single thing to stop them? Do they not know Iran is out to destroy Israel?
Nobody is going to attack Iran. I guess Israel is going to DIE. Iran already has all the material needed to build a bomb. The next step is for them to figure out how to build a bomb. It's too late. The world is over.

Let's Pray.
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: SamurAchzar
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Why are the pictures of innocents killed by suicide bombers more deserving of our sympathy than the innocent Palestinians killed by unprovoked Israeli aggression?
Suicide bombings occur as direct retaliation from specific Israel attacks. You still remain blind to the news, don't you?

In what kind of world exactly does firing 60 rockets a day on cities does not constitute "provocation"?

rockets in retaliation of continued Israeli violation of international law and aggression?

wow, it really is easy for you guys to ignore what is going on when you turn a blind eye to unfiltered sources.

But yeah, the recent events are a gigantic clusterfuck. I haven't personally invested my attention into to the background involving these current events in so much as the ceasefire was simply left to expire without any negotiation. It seems nothing more than an excuse for each side to get back to killing.

Make no mistake, however, that the overriding issue behind Palestinian aggression is that the settlers remain ILLEGALLY on Palestinian land, granted them not merely by the centuries-long residency, but also by international law. Israel has continued their illegal invasion into this territory and the US Zionists continue to support them.

you would be tossing rocks and firing rockets too if it was your only recourse to reclaim what is rightfully and legally yours.

Isn't "tossing rockets" during an internationally recognised cease fire an illegal act?

I suppose that Israel should just sit back and follow the agreement while the terrorists continously keep their war against Israel going? No retaliation what so ever, just accept it?

I wonder how you would feel if Mexico started shooting rockets against the "annexed" lands in the south?

Now Hamas has gone completely insane and told the different groups (primarily Al-Aqsa) to fire at Israel and when Israel fights back you think that is wrong?

Isreael even sent diesel, food and medical supplies into the area to minimise the suffering among the civilian population.

I never said Israel isn't right to retaliate. I'm simply saying that maybe 2% of Palestinian aggression ever occurs unprovoked, unlike what is being reported in the west. Again, it's completely duplicitous to interpret every Israeli action as retaliation for Palestinian aggression when it is actually the case far more often that Palestinians are retaliating for Israeli aggression that goes unreported in the west.

It also isn't simply that only Palestine broke the ceasefire. Both sides allowed it to expire. Israel had no desire to keep it going.



http://www.newyorker.com/repor.../070730fa_fact_remnick

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/...70903taco_talk_remnick

Oh, so the stopping of deliveries was unprovoked? THEY FIRED HUNDREDS OF ROCKETS INTO ISRAEL EVERY WEEK DURING THE CEASEFIRE! THAT is why Israel tried to take out bomb sites and restricted transports. There wasn't any ceasefire, Palestinians fired upon Israel almost daily during the whole time.

I'd say that about 100% of the aggression started with Hamas not controlling Al-Aqsa who fired rockets all the time during the ceasefire.

I don't think that Israeli actions are "retaliation" but WHAT country wouldn't use it's military to protect it's civilians when they are under attack?
 
Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: keird
Originally posted by: Aimster
The Arab nations have stopped fighting Israel years ago.
You must be old.

meh. The nations of Hezbolla and Hamas get their money from taxing something.

Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.
& Hamas is poorly trained,equipped and funded. They make their rockets in some shop. & they don't even have an objective. If they stopped fighting with Israel they would have no reason to exist. They just want everyone to feel sorry for them.

Govts of Egypt and Saudi Arabia with their chain nations Kuwait, UAE, QATAR, and Jordan are strong. They are run by "families". The families are enjoying their unlimited credit card limit.

If you don't know anything about this issue, then just shut up.

Hisb'Allah is an outspoken enemy of Israel just like Hamas, both funded by Iran.

You're not very bright.
Hezbollah doesn't want to destroy Israel.

Iran doesn't even want to destroy Israel.

You can believe all that little media propaganda as you wish. It just shows you don't know wtf you are talking about.

Hisb'Allah has been very outspoken, if you had listened to what they said the last time around then maybe even you could have understood what they said.

Iran supports Hamas and Hisb'Allah financially, that should tell even a stupid fuck like you something.

It's not about media, it's about the flow of money, weapons, actions and outspoken words, if you want to close your eyes and hold your ears go right ahead, but then don't comment on things you obviously know nothing about.

weapons?
You said the destruction of Israel.

Iran doesn't give Hamas weapons. Nobody gives Hamas weapons. They are smuggled in from Egypt. Weapons like handguns and rpgs that are ineffective against Israeli tanks and aircraft. Weapons that are only good at controlling Palestine.

You claim Hezbollah and Iran want to destroy Israel.
Where are all the chemical weapons in Lebanon? Iran has enough chemical weapons in their inventory to destroy Israel. Why doesn't Hezbollah have these weapons? Surely they want to destroy Israel and so those their main supplier of weapons. Why are they leaving out chemical weapons?

Why Is Iran going to build the technology to create a nuclear bomb without anyone doing a single thing to stop them? Do they not know Iran is out to destroy Israel?
Nobody is going to attack Iran. I guess Israel is going to DIE. Iran already has all the material needed to build a bomb. The next step is for them to figure out how to build a bomb. It's too late. The world is over.

Let's Pray.

I give up.