K1052
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The UN is pushing for (and getting) countries to destroy all surplus small arms. The only real market for most of these small arms is for collectors in the US
Australia recently agreed to destroy thousands of L1A1s at UN request rather than sell them for kits to US collectors. Eastern European countries are coming under increased pressure to destroy their stocks of surplus arms (mostly Russian and captured German WWII era firearms) that are waiting out the 5 year delay for the import of Russian owned surplus.
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In that regard it is similiar, but also very different. Yes we're trying to forced our views on them, but the issue isnt protected by their Founding Fathers either!! So in the abortion case we want to enforce our views on them, and thats that. In thegun issue, they want to enforce their views on us AND undermine our most basic of rights afforded to us by our very own Constitution. If that were to happen we might as well just scrap the whole damned Constitution and adopt whatever the UN thinks we should.
Most countries don't have "founding fathers".
And I fail to see how it's different, if some Muslim country wanted to ban alcohol across the globe, would that be fine because the specific right to drink alcohol isn't covered by your(or anyone else's) constitution?
Feel free to replace alcohol with just about anything as I just grabbed whatever subject I could think of, and I don't know what the US constitution does and does not specifically protect.
To me it's the same, the UN has no business telling the US how to handle domestic gun laws, and the US has no business telling anyone else how to handle domestic abortion laws.
Now why would we want to invade Europe? THere was a reason why the majority of our ancestors left in the first place. We wouldnt want to insult their intelligence by going back.
Just think though. We would rather go into that dump of Iraq before going back to old Europe.
As for the OP. Birth rates will be the decline of the white, christian Europe. In 60 years when white Christians are the minority they will finally figure it out. But the problem is it will be too late. Will America take the last remaining Europeans?
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Neither case is really "right", but on one hand its forcing your views and on the other its rewriting the very fabric of the government. Banning alcohol across the globe does not undermine ANY government. Trying to ban guns in America is in direct contrast to the very document which lays out our Rights and government.
It would be like it America told France it had to adopt a new form of government rather then just pass a law prohibiting some action.
Oh let's see..I was born in Germany and I spend the first 26 years of my life in Germany. Thru my business I spend each year at least 3 months in Europe. So what about you?
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Dont feel threaened by my intelligence. I understand you do by the fact you just make snide passing comments and cant really address the issue at hand but really, I'm not a threat to you.
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Skoorb
SensationalismEurope has been around long before the US and it will be quite fine in the coming years.
The United States of America is the oldest democracy (or is it republic?) in the world.
The USA is a (de facto) Republic, rather than a democracy (though the meanings of both words have changed somewhat since they were coined), and is one of, but certainly not the, oldest or the longest lasting examples of either.
However, to forestall any (predictable) responses to this; the US is certainly the oldest, still extant, continuous*, based on an unchanging constitution (1), sovereign, representative democratic (2) country (3) in the world (4)
* not counting secessionist periods and / or changes in territorial makeup
(1) not counting amendments
(2) although not necessarily offering universal suffrage
(3) a country of, by and for a significant proportion, though not necessarily a majority of, the people.
(4) Void where prohibited by law.
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If I was a betting man I'd say that Europe could quite handidly defend itself from the US. Remember it was only 50 years ago that Germany brought Europe to its knees. Put all those countries together and it's a great power. Only war could truly unite them though, so as it stands they are just a bunch of individuals. In fact the more friction between the US and European countries, the stronger they will become (my enemy's enemy is my friend). It was only 60 years ago Germany was marching through Paris and now look at those two countries snuggling under the covers!
That's great, but the US is a speck on the ass of time compared to other countrys' long reigns of power, from a historical perspective. The US has only been the most powerful country for a number of decades.
Reality is that no country can remain the strongest forever. There is constant change. Power comes and goes. I've actually read statements from Americans who think that the US will be the world's super power indefinitely. Such sillyness.
Specop 007 Europe can stay out of the US' business no more than the US can stay out of Europe's. We live in a connected world with economic and political implications that can't simply be pushed aside. As with any relationship, all sides want something out of it. Europe wants their part and the US wants its. Of course I have some bad things to say about Europe, but it's not like the same things you're saying about them nosing around can't be said exactly about the US as well.
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Look guys, I dunerstand we nose in their business as much as they nose in ours.
The BASIC difference is they do it in complete disregard to our very founding documents and laws!!
As an aside, if we rbought our full military weight to bear we'd stop Euopres ass up one side and right down the other.
The ENTIRETY of Europe. But thats another topic for another thread.
The BASIC difference is they do it in complete disregard to our very founding documents and laws!!
As an aside, if we rbought our full military weight to bear we'd stop Euopres ass up one side and right down the other.
The ENTIRETY of Europe. But thats another topic for another thread.
The UN "global ban on guns", which doesn't even seem to be anywhere near what you claim it to be, isn't targeting your constitution.
And to me, drinking alcohol, along with many other things that may or may not be controversial in other parts of the world, premarital sex, listening to heavy metal all night, etc etc, are basic freedoms, and just because we don't have constitutional laws that specify that citizens have the right to all of those things doesn't mean they're somehow lesser than your right to bear arms.
Does something have to written in the constitution to be a basic liberty to you?
How about eating junk food(or whatever you prefer)? I'm guessing your constitution doesn't specifically mention it, but would you consider it a lesser issue?
And anyone thinking an all out war between Europe and the US wouldn't be utterly devastating for everyone involved, and probably anyone in the vicinity, is a moron.
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Your intelligence is comprised of weak parroting of extremist commentators.
You admitted this above.
Also, you fail to recognize the word "you're".
Your intelligence seems to be swamped with ignorance and stubbornness.
I am not even going to attempt to reason with your type, as you simply don't.
I can talk to my brick wall anytime i want, i don't need you to fill the void.
True, if someone tells me I'd look great in a pink dress I'd think he was a moron or just plain weird, or both, but still, he can think that all he wants, so long as he doesn't try to pull anything fishy.
Oh NOOO white Christians will be the minority in Europe!! And who cares? I don't.
Why are you so obsesed with skin color and religion? Are you afraid some Muslim or Frenchman will steal your candy?
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
I see that inbreeding also has an effect on your English skills
Holy Jeebus.... :Q
LOL!! Yeah, I hate this early morning stuff......
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