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CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sunner
Yahooo! Or not...
I still don't think the EU will work, and annexing every country in Europe won't change that, if anything, it will have the opposite effect IMO.

CanOWorms, don't know if you mean to or not, but to me, you sure keep sounding like you have a rather strong dislike for pretty much all Europeans.

No, I'm not. If I did, why am I trying to reveal the poor treatment of certain groups of Europeans? Just because I'm very critical of their behavior regarding this issue doesn't mean you can just use that excuse. Like I posted previously, if I'm anti-European, then anyone criticizing Bush is anti-American. Obviously it's not that simple. This is a poor way to try to silence someone from revealing the truth.

How anyone can pretend this is not a serious human rights issue and claim that I'm anti-European is amazing. You should focus on the issue instead of the poster, unless you're trying to ignore the issue.

more and more people seem to think that you have some strange dislike for Europeans

interesting...

Not really, he's said it to me before. I can see how people think it though since I'm very critical over their 17th century-like treatment of people.

It's interesting how people are avoiding the subject and attacking the poster... very interesting how they're avoiding it... especially a serious humans rights issue such as this...

I feel your pain

I just saw some pics about the treatment of these Iraqi prisoners. Looks like a 13th century treatment

oh - and we also eat babies

Stop being so sarcastic. You don't care what happens to these people as long as you're OK.

Yes, it's horrible. The American and British soldiers who committed those acts are pigs. I've already stated this before in another thread, too. I'm not a super-patriot such as yourself where I don't think my country or others can do no wrong. I agree with you on this issue, unlike you and others who attack me and ignore the issue.

At least it wasn't a government-sponsored activity and the fact that they'll most likely be punished is reassuring. Unlike the behavior of the Slovenians and other European governments. Absolutely sickening.
 

freegeeks

Diamond Member
May 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sunner
Yahooo! Or not...
I still don't think the EU will work, and annexing every country in Europe won't change that, if anything, it will have the opposite effect IMO.

CanOWorms, don't know if you mean to or not, but to me, you sure keep sounding like you have a rather strong dislike for pretty much all Europeans.

No, I'm not. If I did, why am I trying to reveal the poor treatment of certain groups of Europeans? Just because I'm very critical of their behavior regarding this issue doesn't mean you can just use that excuse. Like I posted previously, if I'm anti-European, then anyone criticizing Bush is anti-American. Obviously it's not that simple. This is a poor way to try to silence someone from revealing the truth.

How anyone can pretend this is not a serious human rights issue and claim that I'm anti-European is amazing. You should focus on the issue instead of the poster, unless you're trying to ignore the issue.

more and more people seem to think that you have some strange dislike for Europeans

interesting...

Not really, he's said it to me before. I can see how people think it though since I'm very critical over their 17th century-like treatment of people.

It's interesting how people are avoiding the subject and attacking the poster... very interesting how they're avoiding it... especially a serious humans rights issue such as this...

I feel your pain

I just saw some pics about the treatment of these Iraqi prisoners. Looks like a 13th century treatment

oh - and we also eat babies

Stop being so sarcastic. You don't care what happens to these people as long as you're OK.

Yes, it's horrible. The American and British soldiers who committed those acts are pigs. I've already stated this before in another thread, too. I'm not a super-patriot such as yourself where I don't think my country or others can do no wrong. I agree with you on this issue, unlike you and others who attack me and ignore the issue.

At least it wasn't a government-sponsored activity and the fact that they'll most likely be punished is reassuring. Unlike the behavior of the Slovenians and other European governments. Absolutely sickening.


sorry that I didn't answered that fast

I was just looking at the monthly beating of a poor black man by 10 white US police officers on the 10 pm news

I also found this

Report on U.S. Muslims shows jump in harassment complaints compared to year before

Overall, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said it received 1,019 claims of physical and verbal attacks on Muslims; on-the-job discrimination; and racial profiling by law enforcement...

LOL - and you try to lecture Europeans

you are a tool

bye bye
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sunner
Yahooo! Or not...
I still don't think the EU will work, and annexing every country in Europe won't change that, if anything, it will have the opposite effect IMO.

CanOWorms, don't know if you mean to or not, but to me, you sure keep sounding like you have a rather strong dislike for pretty much all Europeans.

No, I'm not. If I did, why am I trying to reveal the poor treatment of certain groups of Europeans? Just because I'm very critical of their behavior regarding this issue doesn't mean you can just use that excuse. Like I posted previously, if I'm anti-European, then anyone criticizing Bush is anti-American. Obviously it's not that simple. This is a poor way to try to silence someone from revealing the truth.

How anyone can pretend this is not a serious human rights issue and claim that I'm anti-European is amazing. You should focus on the issue instead of the poster, unless you're trying to ignore the issue.

more and more people seem to think that you have some strange dislike for Europeans

interesting...

Not really, he's said it to me before. I can see how people think it though since I'm very critical over their 17th century-like treatment of people.

It's interesting how people are avoiding the subject and attacking the poster... very interesting how they're avoiding it... especially a serious humans rights issue such as this...

I feel your pain

I just saw some pics about the treatment of these Iraqi prisoners. Looks like a 13th century treatment

oh - and we also eat babies

Stop being so sarcastic. You don't care what happens to these people as long as you're OK.

Yes, it's horrible. The American and British soldiers who committed those acts are pigs. I've already stated this before in another thread, too. I'm not a super-patriot such as yourself where I don't think my country or others can do no wrong. I agree with you on this issue, unlike you and others who attack me and ignore the issue.

At least it wasn't a government-sponsored activity and the fact that they'll most likely be punished is reassuring. Unlike the behavior of the Slovenians and other European governments. Absolutely sickening.


sorry that I didn't answered that fast

I was just looking at the monthly beating of a poor black man by 10 white US police officers on the 10 pm news

Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.
 

freegeeks

Diamond Member
May 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sunner
Yahooo! Or not...
I still don't think the EU will work, and annexing every country in Europe won't change that, if anything, it will have the opposite effect IMO.

CanOWorms, don't know if you mean to or not, but to me, you sure keep sounding like you have a rather strong dislike for pretty much all Europeans.

No, I'm not. If I did, why am I trying to reveal the poor treatment of certain groups of Europeans? Just because I'm very critical of their behavior regarding this issue doesn't mean you can just use that excuse. Like I posted previously, if I'm anti-European, then anyone criticizing Bush is anti-American. Obviously it's not that simple. This is a poor way to try to silence someone from revealing the truth.

How anyone can pretend this is not a serious human rights issue and claim that I'm anti-European is amazing. You should focus on the issue instead of the poster, unless you're trying to ignore the issue.

more and more people seem to think that you have some strange dislike for Europeans

interesting...

Not really, he's said it to me before. I can see how people think it though since I'm very critical over their 17th century-like treatment of people.

It's interesting how people are avoiding the subject and attacking the poster... very interesting how they're avoiding it... especially a serious humans rights issue such as this...

I feel your pain

I just saw some pics about the treatment of these Iraqi prisoners. Looks like a 13th century treatment

oh - and we also eat babies

Stop being so sarcastic. You don't care what happens to these people as long as you're OK.

Yes, it's horrible. The American and British soldiers who committed those acts are pigs. I've already stated this before in another thread, too. I'm not a super-patriot such as yourself where I don't think my country or others can do no wrong. I agree with you on this issue, unlike you and others who attack me and ignore the issue.

At least it wasn't a government-sponsored activity and the fact that they'll most likely be punished is reassuring. Unlike the behavior of the Slovenians and other European governments. Absolutely sickening.


sorry that I didn't answered that fast

I was just looking at the monthly beating of a poor black man by 10 white US police officers on the 10 pm news

Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.


look to the other link I provided in my previous post - hate crimes against Muslims seems to be a general trend
 

freegeeks

Diamond Member
May 7, 2001
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Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sunner
Yahooo! Or not...
I still don't think the EU will work, and annexing every country in Europe won't change that, if anything, it will have the opposite effect IMO.

CanOWorms, don't know if you mean to or not, but to me, you sure keep sounding like you have a rather strong dislike for pretty much all Europeans.

No, I'm not. If I did, why am I trying to reveal the poor treatment of certain groups of Europeans? Just because I'm very critical of their behavior regarding this issue doesn't mean you can just use that excuse. Like I posted previously, if I'm anti-European, then anyone criticizing Bush is anti-American. Obviously it's not that simple. This is a poor way to try to silence someone from revealing the truth.

How anyone can pretend this is not a serious human rights issue and claim that I'm anti-European is amazing. You should focus on the issue instead of the poster, unless you're trying to ignore the issue.

more and more people seem to think that you have some strange dislike for Europeans

interesting...

Not really, he's said it to me before. I can see how people think it though since I'm very critical over their 17th century-like treatment of people.

It's interesting how people are avoiding the subject and attacking the poster... very interesting how they're avoiding it... especially a serious humans rights issue such as this...

I feel your pain

I just saw some pics about the treatment of these Iraqi prisoners. Looks like a 13th century treatment

oh - and we also eat babies

Stop being so sarcastic. You don't care what happens to these people as long as you're OK.

Yes, it's horrible. The American and British soldiers who committed those acts are pigs. I've already stated this before in another thread, too. I'm not a super-patriot such as yourself where I don't think my country or others can do no wrong. I agree with you on this issue, unlike you and others who attack me and ignore the issue.

At least it wasn't a government-sponsored activity and the fact that they'll most likely be punished is reassuring. Unlike the behavior of the Slovenians and other European governments. Absolutely sickening.


sorry that I didn't answered that fast

I was just looking at the monthly beating of a poor black man by 10 white US police officers on the 10 pm news

Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.


look to the other link I provided in my previous post - hate crimes against Muslims seems to be a general trend

Of course. Like I said, I'm not a super-patriot like you. I don't pretend that the US is not capable of horrible actions. I agree that bad things happen. Too bad you can't do it for yourself.

Anyways, government-sanctioned actions against and targetting Muslims and other groups in Europe are becoming the norm and should be the focus of concern. Especially when you consider European history. Rising European racist political parties are spreading everywhere.

That's mainly what I post about. It's not like we can ignore European countries trying to base citizenship on ethnicity, targeting minorities, punishing minorities for being successful, etc.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.
 
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.
 

freegeeks

Diamond Member
May 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.


dude I'm Belgian - learn something and you would know that "Belgian" and "patriot" doesn't fit in the same sentence

you accused me of being a racist and I will continue to laugh with your stupid posts because of your stereotype drivel
 

Sunner

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Sunner
Yahooo! Or not...
I still don't think the EU will work, and annexing every country in Europe won't change that, if anything, it will have the opposite effect IMO.

CanOWorms, don't know if you mean to or not, but to me, you sure keep sounding like you have a rather strong dislike for pretty much all Europeans.

No, I'm not. If I did, why am I trying to reveal the poor treatment of certain groups of Europeans? Just because I'm very critical of their behavior regarding this issue doesn't mean you can just use that excuse. Like I posted previously, if I'm anti-European, then anyone criticizing Bush is anti-American. Obviously it's not that simple. This is a poor way to try to silence someone from revealing the truth.

How anyone can pretend this is not a serious human rights issue and claim that I'm anti-European is amazing. You should focus on the issue instead of the poster, unless you're trying to ignore the issue.

Since I don't spend too much time here in P&N(unfortunately, could be interesting if there was an 18 year age limit perhaps) I don't get to read too many of your posts, so Im not accusing you of anything really, but you do come off that way from what little I do read.
I dont know what kind of love story is going on between you and freegeeks but it seems like Im not the only one getting this impression.

As for the situation in Slovenia, yes that's a problem for the EU, and as you might have noted if you read my entire post, Im not a fan of the EU, so I don't understand why you think Im trying to avoid the issue(and of course, this thread wasn't even originally about that, but nevermind that).

Or, as I usually say, the EU is a nice idea, but a really bad implementation, trying to pretend the countries in Europe are like the states in the US like some people seem to do is just silly, they never will be.

Oh and just to make sure given the rather "tense" nature of P&N, that "lovestory" comment wasn't a gay remark, it was a joke ;)
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.


dude I'm Belgian - learn something and you would know that "Belgian" and "patriot" doesn't fit in the same sentence

you accused me of being a racist and I will continue to laugh with your stupid posts because of that

You ARE a super-patriot and your actions on this board reflect that.

I never called you a racist, you called yourself one and I just played along with you to try to get your passport, birth certificate, etc.

If you're going to lie, then I'll lie against you. You called me a donkey in a racist manner!

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.
 

freegeeks

Diamond Member
May 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.


dude I'm Belgian - learn something and you would know that "Belgian" and "patriot" doesn't fit in the same sentence

you accused me of being a racist and I will continue to laugh with your stupid posts because of that

You ARE a super-patriot and your actions on this board reflect that.

I never called you a racist, you called yourself one and I just played along with you to try to get your passport, birth certificate, etc.

If you're going to lie, then I'll lie against you. You called me a donkey in a racist manner!

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.

don't have the time anymore to laugh with you tonight - I have a lynchin party to attend with the old boys

bye bye dude
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.


dude I'm Belgian - learn something and you would know that "Belgian" and "patriot" doesn't fit in the same sentence

you accused me of being a racist and I will continue to laugh with your stupid posts because of that

You ARE a super-patriot and your actions on this board reflect that.

I never called you a racist, you called yourself one and I just played along with you to try to get your passport, birth certificate, etc.

If you're going to lie, then I'll lie against you. You called me a donkey in a racist manner!

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.

don't have the time anymore to laugh with you tonight - I have a lynchin party to attend with the old boys

bye bye dude

I guess you find serious human rights issues funny...

bye bye frank
 

freegeeks

Diamond Member
May 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.


dude I'm Belgian - learn something and you would know that "Belgian" and "patriot" doesn't fit in the same sentence

you accused me of being a racist and I will continue to laugh with your stupid posts because of that

You ARE a super-patriot and your actions on this board reflect that.

I never called you a racist, you called yourself one and I just played along with you to try to get your passport, birth certificate, etc.

If you're going to lie, then I'll lie against you. You called me a donkey in a racist manner!

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.

don't have the time anymore to laugh with you tonight - I have a lynchin party to attend with the old boys

bye bye dude

I guess you find serious human rights issues funny...

bye bye frank

nah, you are funny in a strange way
 

Klixxer

Diamond Member
Apr 7, 2004
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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

Europe has a bloody history of wars, no doubt about that, but to state that in this day and age, a majority of Europeans, or even Slovenians are rasists is just taking the issue way beyond what you can get through history.

CanOworms or whatever the little Euro hater calls himself is nothing but a punk trying to distort the truth, he has already shown his true colors by bolding out a statement, excluding the word "never" and then claim in another thread that the bolded quote was actually true.

Regarding the Slovenians, the biggest problem for most people who are not citizens is that they have to speak the language, it isn't exclusive to Slovenia to have that rule. Many students get citizenship because they can pass the tests, automatic citizenship for a recently created country isn't common no matter which country you look at.

But of course, Can o sh!t reads EU and minorities in the same sentence, and that is enough for him.
 
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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

What genocide are you talking about and what celebration are you talking about?

If you're talking about the natives in the Americas, then you should try to remember that European powers absolutey devastated and destoryed those cultures for a damn long time....lots of Europeans like to forget about that, too.

Bottom line is that European history is horrendous, filled with mass killings and the rape and pillage of the entire world 100x over. They showed absolutely no regard to any other type of human life that was the slighest different than themselves.

And then of course there's the wonderful example of Germany...

It's hilarious that a European would try to say that the US"s history is so horrible, when the Europeans brought death and destruction to every corner of the globe.
 

CanOWorms

Lifer
Jul 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

Europe has a bloody history of wars, no doubt about that, but to state that in this day and age, a majority of Europeans, or even Slovenians are rasists is just taking the issue way beyond what you can get through history.

CanOworms or whatever the little Euro hater calls himself is nothing but a punk trying to distort the truth, he has already shown his true colors by bolding out a statement, excluding the word "never" and then claim in another thread that the bolded quote was actually true.

Regarding the Slovenians, the biggest problem for most people who are not citizens is that they have to speak the language, it isn't exclusive to Slovenia to have that rule. Many students get citizenship because they can pass the tests, automatic citizenship for a recently created country isn't common no matter which country you look at.

But of course, Can o sh!t reads EU and minorities in the same sentence, and that is enough for him.

If you're talking about the US, then I think you need to read some history because European people were running around then. And if you want to talk about history, let's do so, because nobody has a more gross, disgusting, and horrendous history than Europe, which still occurs in modern times. It's a tangent that I'll go on if you wish.

I said in this very thread that I think the majority of Slovenians don't actually believe in sub-humans. Of course you choose to ignore it and just insult me. 95% of the population did vote against restoring these people their rights. How is that distorting the truth? Is it a lie when you don't agree with it?

This coming from the guy that said Europeans hug each other and everyone else in the world because they're lovers, not haters :) You live in some strange idealized world, and when I show the truth and shatter your faulty vision, you go ballistic and violent. This is also the guy that called me a bigot because I said people are equal in humanity, that there should be no sub-humans.

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

What genocide are you talking about and what celebration are you talking about?

If you're talking about the natives in the Americas, then you should try to remember that European powers absolutey devastated and destoryed those cultures for a damn long time....lots of Europeans like to forget about that, too.

Bottom line is that European history is horrendous, filled with mass killings and the rape and pillage of the entire world 100x over. They showed absolutely no regard to any other type of human life that was the slighest different than themselves.

And then of course there's the wonderful example of Germany...

It's hilarious that a European would try to say that the US"s history is so horrible, when the Europeans brought death and destruction to every corner of the globe.

So the US is basically european? It wasn't Americans that built the land of the US, it was Europeans, man, i always love to see a chick chick paint himself into a corner.

I already said that about the European history, thank you for repeating my words and adding illustrations to my words, wow, it sure is amazing.

The example of Germany, Nazism, divided by CCCP and US, has actually become a whole nation, i know this bugs you and i know that Germany not agreeing with everything any American says anymore and bows down in shame bothers you, but please.

As far as i know, only one nation was created through perfect genocide, the US, and to compare thousands of years of history to hundreds isn't really fair.

Nowdays, some americans are so blind, so just when they can't get the Europeans to jump when they say jump, they think they are the enemy, i am sorry, but i won't jump for you or anyone else.
 
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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

What genocide are you talking about and what celebration are you talking about?

If you're talking about the natives in the Americas, then you should try to remember that European powers absolutey devastated and destoryed those cultures for a damn long time....lots of Europeans like to forget about that, too.

Bottom line is that European history is horrendous, filled with mass killings and the rape and pillage of the entire world 100x over. They showed absolutely no regard to any other type of human life that was the slighest different than themselves.

And then of course there's the wonderful example of Germany...

It's hilarious that a European would try to say that the US"s history is so horrible, when the Europeans brought death and destruction to every corner of the globe.

So the US is basically european? It wasn't Americans that built the land of the US, it was Europeans, man, i always love to see a chick chick paint himself into a corner.

I already said that about the European history, thank you for repeating my words and adding illustrations to my words, wow, it sure is amazing.

The example of Germany, Nazism, divided by CCCP and US, has actually become a whole nation, i know this bugs you and i know that Germany not agreeing with everything any American says anymore and bows down in shame bothers you, but please.

As far as i know, only one nation was created through perfect genocide, the US, and to compare thousands of years of history to hundreds isn't really fair.

Nowdays, some americans are so blind, so just when they can't get the Europeans to jump when they say jump, they think they are the enemy, i am sorry, but i won't jump for you or anyone else.

American didn't even exist for a damn long time. Its foundation was created by the Europeans, after they also slaughtered and destroyed entire civilizations as well. Europeans came to the Americas and slaughtered entire populations of native Indians. Are you denying this? Are you denying that the French, Spanish, English, etc. slaughtered entire peoples? Funny how you like to blame other countries on 'genocide', but want to conveniently forget that European powers raped and pillaged the ENTIRE world.

We don't even have to look that far back. We could compare 200 years of history or even 120 years of history. They completely destroyed and raped entire countries, with problems today having their roots because of these European devastations.

Where's the perfect genocide that you speak of? I was under the assumption that the only perfect genocide was in some Australian islands.

Nowadays, Europeans are so blind and brainwashed. They want to blame the US and talk about its history, but they want to act as if they themselves didn't destory and rape the world as if it was nothing. Typical...

I bet you also don't believe that the Holocaust existed...I mean those Europeans never killed or tried to destory entire peoples ever! They've been perfect examples of peace and tolerance all throughout history. Pathetic & brainwashed.
 

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

Europe has a bloody history of wars, no doubt about that, but to state that in this day and age, a majority of Europeans, or even Slovenians are rasists is just taking the issue way beyond what you can get through history.

CanOworms or whatever the little Euro hater calls himself is nothing but a punk trying to distort the truth, he has already shown his true colors by bolding out a statement, excluding the word "never" and then claim in another thread that the bolded quote was actually true.

Regarding the Slovenians, the biggest problem for most people who are not citizens is that they have to speak the language, it isn't exclusive to Slovenia to have that rule. Many students get citizenship because they can pass the tests, automatic citizenship for a recently created country isn't common no matter which country you look at.

But of course, Can o sh!t reads EU and minorities in the same sentence, and that is enough for him.

If you're talking about the US, then I think you need to read some history because European people were running around then. And if you want to talk about history, let's do so, because nobody has a more gross, disgusting, and horrendous history than Europe, which still occurs in modern times. It's a tangent that I'll go on if you wish.

I said in this very thread that I think the majority of Slovenians don't actually believe in sub-humans. Of course you choose to ignore it and just insult me. 95% of the population did vote against restoring these people their rights. How is that distorting the truth? Is it a lie when you don't agree with it?

This coming from the guy that said Europeans hug each other and everyone else in the world because they're lovers, not haters :) You live in some strange idealized world, and when I show the truth and shatter your faulty vision, you go ballistic and violent. This is also the guy that called me a bigot because I said people are equal in humanity, that there should be no sub-humans.

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.

I don't even know where to start with this bs, most of the bs you claim i have said i haven't said.

You really should stop with the crack smoking, it is seriously rotting your eh... forget i said that.

You don't seem to get it, Slovenia is newly created, with a part of their population which do not speak their language at ALL, don't follow their culture and have no ideas of their law, how could they? If they are driving and being stopped, the police cannot communicate with them in any way, what the people voted against was automatic citizenship for those in the country at the time of creation, what you DON'T understand is that you would probably get the same response from US citizens if you voted that TODAY, everyone in the US would get automatic citizenship.

You try to make things into something they are not, then claim you are right, time and time again.

Maybe you should grow up before trying to discuss politics?
 

CanOWorms

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Klixxer said:

The example of Germany, Nazism, divided by CCCP and US, has actually become a whole nation, i know this bugs you and i know that Germany not agreeing with everything any American says anymore and bows down in shame bothers you, but please.

Nowdays, some americans are so blind, so just when they can't get the Europeans to jump when they say jump, they think they are the enemy, i am sorry, but i won't jump for you or anyone else.

Considering that some of the countries that I'm most critical of, especially the Netherlands, are following US actions, pretty much dispells your statement.

I don't expect much from someone from a country that had ethnic-based citizenship rules until recently. I think the belief that you are superior and others are beneath you is just too deep in your mind. Hopefully future generations will change. You're blind to the articles I post, the worries of human rights groups, the UN, etc.
 

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

Europe has a bloody history of wars, no doubt about that, but to state that in this day and age, a majority of Europeans, or even Slovenians are rasists is just taking the issue way beyond what you can get through history.

CanOworms or whatever the little Euro hater calls himself is nothing but a punk trying to distort the truth, he has already shown his true colors by bolding out a statement, excluding the word "never" and then claim in another thread that the bolded quote was actually true.

Regarding the Slovenians, the biggest problem for most people who are not citizens is that they have to speak the language, it isn't exclusive to Slovenia to have that rule. Many students get citizenship because they can pass the tests, automatic citizenship for a recently created country isn't common no matter which country you look at.

But of course, Can o sh!t reads EU and minorities in the same sentence, and that is enough for him.

If you're talking about the US, then I think you need to read some history because European people were running around then. And if you want to talk about history, let's do so, because nobody has a more gross, disgusting, and horrendous history than Europe, which still occurs in modern times. It's a tangent that I'll go on if you wish.

I said in this very thread that I think the majority of Slovenians don't actually believe in sub-humans. Of course you choose to ignore it and just insult me. 95% of the population did vote against restoring these people their rights. How is that distorting the truth? Is it a lie when you don't agree with it?

This coming from the guy that said Europeans hug each other and everyone else in the world because they're lovers, not haters :) You live in some strange idealized world, and when I show the truth and shatter your faulty vision, you go ballistic and violent. This is also the guy that called me a bigot because I said people are equal in humanity, that there should be no sub-humans.

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.

I don't even know where to start with this bs, most of the bs you claim i have said i haven't said.

You really should stop with the crack smoking, it is seriously rotting your eh... forget i said that.

You don't seem to get it, Slovenia is newly created, with a part of their population which do not speak their language at ALL, don't follow their culture and have no ideas of their law, how could they? If they are driving and being stopped, the police cannot communicate with them in any way, what the people voted against was automatic citizenship for those in the country at the time of creation, what you DON'T understand is that you would probably get the same response from US citizens if you voted that TODAY, everyone in the US would get automatic citizenship.

You try to make things into something they are not, then claim you are right, time and time again.

Maybe you should grow up before trying to discuss politics?

Thanks for proving my point.

'THEY'RE NOT HUMAN BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN ME" - Klixxer?
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Klixxer said:

The example of Germany, Nazism, divided by CCCP and US, has actually become a whole nation, i know this bugs you and i know that Germany not agreeing with everything any American says anymore and bows down in shame bothers you, but please.

Nowdays, some americans are so blind, so just when they can't get the Europeans to jump when they say jump, they think they are the enemy, i am sorry, but i won't jump for you or anyone else.

Considering that some of the countries that I'm most critical of, especially the Netherlands, are following US actions, pretty much dispells your statement.

I don't expect much from someone from a country that had ethnic-based citizenship rules until recently. I think the belief that you are superior and others are beneath you is just too deep in your mind. Hopefully future generations will change. You're blind to the articles I post, the worries of human rights groups, the UN, etc.

You still don't get it, and you never will, because what you are looking for is one side only, refusing to see that there is another side that is a LOT bigger, we're not racists, Nazis or anything else you accuse us of.

The sad part of it all is that you are as reluctant to accept that your own country has faults, i am not, it makes me a patriot and you a nationalist.

Hitler would have loved you.
 

CanOWorms

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Klixxer said:

The example of Germany, Nazism, divided by CCCP and US, has actually become a whole nation, i know this bugs you and i know that Germany not agreeing with everything any American says anymore and bows down in shame bothers you, but please.

Nowdays, some americans are so blind, so just when they can't get the Europeans to jump when they say jump, they think they are the enemy, i am sorry, but i won't jump for you or anyone else.

Considering that some of the countries that I'm most critical of, especially the Netherlands, are following US actions, pretty much dispells your statement.

I don't expect much from someone from a country that had ethnic-based citizenship rules until recently. I think the belief that you are superior and others are beneath you is just too deep in your mind. Hopefully future generations will change. You're blind to the articles I post, the worries of human rights groups, the UN, etc.

You still don't get it, and you never will, because what you are looking for is one side only, refusing to see that there is another side that is a LOT bigger, we're not racists, Nazis or anything else you accuse us of.

The sad part of it all is that you are as reluctant to accept that your own country has faults, i am not, it makes me a patriot and you a nationalist.

Hitler would have loved you.

Yes, Hitler would have loved me since I am so white. I am the typical white, blonde hair, blue eyed superior person. Yes, Hitler would have so loved me talking about equality regardless of skin color, religion, culture, etc.

You don't get it. You criticize me and call me a bigot because I want people to be equal. You say that I can't see anything wrong with my country when I criticize it all the time. You're just blind and brainwashed.

Bottom line is, you just want to ignore the situation. You know it's wrong. But you won't admit that it's wrong. You just try to make up some excuses, or try to redirect the conversation on a tangent. You've even gone so far as to call me a bigot when I was talking about anti-apartheid activists and other human rights issues. Honestly, I don't even think you know what the word 'bigot' means because it's so ridiculous for you to use it in that sense.

Your previous reply shows just how different you are. You think it's ok to discriminate against certain groups of people if they're different. I'm guessing that just because it doesn't affect you, you just don't care about it. And that's a dangerous way to live.
 

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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: freegeeks
Ummm.. ok, thanks for letting me know. I personally don't look into individual beatings by individual people in Europe, I tend to focus more on government-sanctioned actions & society's overall sentiment. I don't need to look at things on such a small-scale when so many large-scale things are happening at a horrendous rate that humans rights groups and even the head of the UN are getting concerned.

I think I'm now going to start reading about those Belgium soldiers who wasted their bullets shooting monkeys and so they had to chop off the limbs of natives as an alibi. I've heard that it's become a legendary, heroic story.

you are so right

I want to remind you of the peaceful history of the USA

I love it when a European likes to talk about history and the USA! So ironic when Europe raped and pillaged the world 100x over, without any regard for human life. Of course they probably didn't consider those people that they loved to slaughter humans at all.

Anyways, the US had plenty of resources and legislation working against the KKK and bringing them down.


Which countries history started with a genocide? Which country celebrates that?

Europe has a bloody history of wars, no doubt about that, but to state that in this day and age, a majority of Europeans, or even Slovenians are rasists is just taking the issue way beyond what you can get through history.

CanOworms or whatever the little Euro hater calls himself is nothing but a punk trying to distort the truth, he has already shown his true colors by bolding out a statement, excluding the word "never" and then claim in another thread that the bolded quote was actually true.

Regarding the Slovenians, the biggest problem for most people who are not citizens is that they have to speak the language, it isn't exclusive to Slovenia to have that rule. Many students get citizenship because they can pass the tests, automatic citizenship for a recently created country isn't common no matter which country you look at.

But of course, Can o sh!t reads EU and minorities in the same sentence, and that is enough for him.

If you're talking about the US, then I think you need to read some history because European people were running around then. And if you want to talk about history, let's do so, because nobody has a more gross, disgusting, and horrendous history than Europe, which still occurs in modern times. It's a tangent that I'll go on if you wish.

I said in this very thread that I think the majority of Slovenians don't actually believe in sub-humans. Of course you choose to ignore it and just insult me. 95% of the population did vote against restoring these people their rights. How is that distorting the truth? Is it a lie when you don't agree with it?

This coming from the guy that said Europeans hug each other and everyone else in the world because they're lovers, not haters :) You live in some strange idealized world, and when I show the truth and shatter your faulty vision, you go ballistic and violent. This is also the guy that called me a bigot because I said people are equal in humanity, that there should be no sub-humans.

Again, I sometimes wonder what people said to anti-apartheid activists, civil rights activists, slavery abolitionists, etc. I wonder if they followed your path.

I don't even know where to start with this bs, most of the bs you claim i have said i haven't said.

You really should stop with the crack smoking, it is seriously rotting your eh... forget i said that.

You don't seem to get it, Slovenia is newly created, with a part of their population which do not speak their language at ALL, don't follow their culture and have no ideas of their law, how could they? If they are driving and being stopped, the police cannot communicate with them in any way, what the people voted against was automatic citizenship for those in the country at the time of creation, what you DON'T understand is that you would probably get the same response from US citizens if you voted that TODAY, everyone in the US would get automatic citizenship.

You try to make things into something they are not, then claim you are right, time and time again.

Maybe you should grow up before trying to discuss politics?

Thanks for proving my point.

'THEY'RE NOT HUMAN BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN ME" - Klixxer?

Another quote that you just pulled out of your ass? Of course, the truth has nothing on you, does it?

*sigh* I shouldn't have expected anything else from you.