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zinfamous

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Also, I think a major issue here is that you're taking a narrow understanding of "persuasion." It's not simply "changing someone's mind;" it's about convincing them to try or think about something never considered before, introducing the reader to new items, concepts, whatever.

Oftentimes, Persuasive arguments focus on introducing the reader to a topic, or to specific issues regarding a topic that the reader has likely not been exposed to. At least, they should be written under that assumption.
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: spacejamz
what is the point of writing an essay? everyone has made up their mind and won't be persuaded no matter how well you write...if you don't believe, click on the p&n link on the left...

Most people formed their Opinions based upon Essay material, in one form or another.

my point is that these 'persuasive' essays are persuading no one...most people have already made up their mind...so what is the point?

Uhh, my point is that they do. Everyone was persuaded to their opinion. No exceptions.

let me help you clarify: people were originally persuaded in their opinions, at some time or another, due to essay writing. This is how their opinions originate.

when is the last time you visited p&n?? ;)

has anyone there been persuaded to the other side? I don't think so...
 

SagaLore

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I like how this non-serious thread has spawned off actual debate about essays. :laugh:

You guys should each write an essay about your particular opinion on essays, and post it here. ;)
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: SagaLore
I like how this non-serious thread has spawned off actual debate about essays. :laugh:

You guys should each write an essay about your particular opinion on essays, and post it here. ;)

No, do the your Homework.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: spacejamz
what is the point of writing an essay? everyone has made up their mind and won't be persuaded no matter how well you write...if you don't believe, click on the p&n link on the left...

Most people formed their Opinions based upon Essay material, in one form or another.

my point is that these 'persuasive' essays are persuading no one...most people have already made up their mind...so what is the point?

Uhh, my point is that they do. Everyone was persuaded to their opinion. No exceptions.

let me help you clarify: people were originally persuaded in their opinions, at some time or another, due to essay writing. This is how their opinions originate.

when is the last time you visited p&n?? ;)

has anyone there been persuaded to the other side? I don't think so...

Completely moot.
 

nerp

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This thread is a web-based cooperative spotaneous stream essay about the state of writing education in America.
 

mikeymikec

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Essay writing teaches you to collect and organize your thoughts, present an argument and support that argument with facts. In a day and age where grown adults can barely formulate a coherent email message, I'd say teaching essay writing is more important than ever.

Furthermore, dissertations/theses have been the inspiration for other people to innovate and invent.
 
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