Eric Trump: Dems ‘not even people’

[Moonbeam]

Maybe if they were people, they wouldn't continue acting in the exact way that caused them to lose the White House.

You conservatives with your absolute but bigoted notions of truth and the terrible danger that certainty creates for the survival of humanity, have caused liberals to become frantic with fear, real, not irrational, fear, with all the hatred that fear generates. You caused those monsters, live with the results. Stop shifting the blame to the fear you caused to manifest. The problem of course is that you have neither the emotional maturity nor self reflection required to see that. You fucked yourself with your own self ignorance.

 

[1prophet]

All this crying and sobbing because you've yet to come to terms with the fact that other people's money doesn't belong to you. Sad!

The closet socialists on Wall Street believe other peoples money belongs to them, who are we to disagree?

 

[ivwshane]

I am telling you that calling people spitballs for calling people spitballs is actually doing what you're condemning about them doing. I'm not telling you anything but that. How you react to that fact, a fact that is in my opinion, is how you feel, not what I am telling you. You seem to react badly to facts. So do conser

You do know that I couldn't care less what people call me, right? Nor do I condemn them for when they do it. I do however point out their hypocrisy and I would hope they would call me out on mine.

But carry on with your victim blaming. Now you'll have to excuse me, I have some flowers to give to some wanna be nazis.

 

[Victorian Gray]

You do know that I couldn't care less what people call me, right? Nor do I condemn them for when they do it. I do however point out their hypocrisy and I would hope they would call me out on mine.

But carry on with your victim blaming. Now you'll have to excuse me, I have some flowers to give to some wanna be nazis.

Don't forget the hug to go with the flowers.

 

[ivwshane]

Don't forget the hug to go with the flowers.

Oh yeah totally! Its the hug that makes them feel again.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Oh yeah totally! Its the hug that makes them feel again.

A hug, a flower and a smile.

 

[Moonbeam]

You do know that I couldn't care less what people call me, right? Nor do I condemn them for when they do it. I do however point out their hypocrisy and I would hope they would call me out on mine.

But carry on with your victim blaming. Now you'll have to excuse me, I have some flowers to give to some wanna be nazis.

Hypocrisy? What would you call stating you couldn't care less about something and then identifying as a victim?

That's the whole point. I have no need to return the hatred conservatives feel for me because I don't take their madness seriously. You respond with the same contempt for them as they feel for you. You and they are nuts because you respond to meaningless lies. They are asleep and so are you. No blame can actually apply to seleeping mechanicals. You and they are equally blameless because you are equally asleep. You and they are infected with unconsciously assumed feelings of worthlessness. If you and they weren't you wouldn't feel rage.

 

[ivwshane]

Hypocrisy? What would you call stating you couldn't care less about something and then identifying as a victim?

That's the whole point. I have no need to return the hatred conservatives feel for me because I don't take their madness seriously. You respond with the same contempt for them as they feel for you. You and they are nuts because you respond to meaningless lies. They are asleep and so are you. No blame can actually apply to seleeping mechanicals. You and they are equally blameless because you are equally asleep. You and they are infected with unconsciously assumed feelings of worthlessness. If you and they weren't you wouldn't feel rage.

You seem to be having trouble following along. I don't identify as a victim nor do I identify as a lefty, liberal, or Democrat. But I am capable of seeing what the reality is and its not the Democrats that are what Eric trump claims (generally speaking) they are.

Me pointing out peoples hypocrisy isn't a form of rage and I'm not sure why you think I'm feeling rage.

So once again, you don't know me.

 

[Younigue]

Hypocrisy? What would you call stating you couldn't care less about something and then identifying as a victim?

That's the whole point. I have no need to return the hatred conservatives feel for me because I don't take their madness seriously. You respond with the same contempt for them as they feel for you. You and they are nuts because you respond to meaningless lies. They are asleep and so are you. No blame can actually apply to seleeping mechanicals. You and they are equally blameless because you are equally asleep. You and they are infected with unconsciously assumed feelings of worthlessness. If you and they weren't you wouldn't feel rage.

Oh good grief Moonbeam don't you ever get tired of hearing your endless mind ramblings? So you suggest regularly you are set apart from the rest of us. You comprehend everything and everyone on a level we mere sleepers will never comprehend. You enlighten no one but then you don't mean to because... Insert blathering here. None of us has died for our beliefs, we live for them which makes us great failures but that's our lot as long as we're asleep, correct? You blather and say nothing.

The place where you reside is exhausting but in your bliss and misery you're too awe stuck to notice and more power to ya man but what exactly are you trying to succeed at by your mundane posts? You achieve nothing, say nothing but judge all.

It is my opinion that you have misinterpreted your discovery/journey profoundly. I know, I know, I get it, you're not trying to be liked or even well received but what is your purpose? Until we all convert to your superior understanding we are simply ignorant mortals and there's nothing for it. This system of being is a personal journey is it not? If you are looking for like-minded people stop alienating and introduce reading materials and audio/visual stimulates to the masses (on this forum).

Of course you don't have to choose a side but you repeatedly post in a way that is particularly unproductive wrought with disdain for all.

I've mentioned it before... You live among humans having a human experience. Dying in the name of giving up and realization isn't a selling point for anyone but you. You bought it... understood. If you're not a teacher, stop not-teaching. If your not a preacher, stop not-preaching. I'm fairly certain we're all useless to you.

 

[Jhhnn]

You conservatives with your absolute but bigoted notions of truth and the terrible danger that certainty creates for the survival of humanity, have caused liberals to become frantic with fear, real, not irrational, fear, with all the hatred that fear generates. You caused those monsters, live with the results. Stop shifting the blame to the fear you caused to manifest. The problem of course is that you have neither the emotional maturity nor self reflection required to see that. You fucked yourself with your own self ignorance.

It's the sheer mindlessness of conservative ravers that's frightening. They're not thinking straight, at all, & evidently haven't been for longer than Libs realized. We always believed that we could somehow bring them to reason but the election of Trump convinced some that such efforts were wasted.

I mean, you had to be out of your mind to vote for Trump yet here we are...

 

[fskimospy]

Oh good grief Moonbeam don't you ever get tired of hearing your endless mind ramblings? So you suggest regularly you are set apart from the rest of us. You comprehend everything and everyone on a level we mere sleepers will never comprehend. You enlighten no one but then you don't mean to because... Insert blathering here. None of us has died for our beliefs, we live for them which makes us great failures but that's our lot as long as we're asleep, correct? You blather and say nothing.

The place where you reside is exhausting but in your bliss and misery you're too awe stuck to notice and more power to ya man but what exactly are you trying to succeed at by your mundane posts? You achieve nothing, say nothing but judge all.

It is my opinion that you have misinterpreted your discovery/journey profoundly. I know, I know, I get it, you're not trying to be liked or even well received but what is your purpose? Until we all convert to your superior understanding we are simply ignorant mortals and there's nothing for it. This system of being is a personal journey is it not? If you are looking for like-minded people stop alienating and introduce reading materials and audio/visual stimulates to the masses (on this forum).

Of course you don't have to choose a side but you repeatedly post in a way that is particularly unproductive wrought with disdain for all.

I've mentioned it before... You live among humans having a human experience. Dying in the name of giving up and realization isn't a selling point for anyone but you. You bought it... understood. If you're not a teacher, stop not-teaching. If your not a preacher, stop not-preaching. I'm fairly certain we're all useless to you.

I have to say that originally Moonbeam made me feel the same way you do, I thought he was garbage. Over time though I really came to appreciate his unique way of looking at things.

Doesn't mean you have to think he is right, but I think he is interesting, and on here I think that's the most important thing.

 

[Roflmouth]

It's the sheer mindlessness of conservative ravers that's frightening. They're not thinking straight, at all, & evidently haven't been for longer than Libs realized. We always believed that we could somehow bring them to reason but the election of Trump convinced some that such efforts were wasted.

Yes, why didn't conservative "ravers" listen to the foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics who hate and despise them? It's a real mystery

 

[Younigue]

I have to say that originally Moonbeam made me feel the same way you do, I thought he was garbage. Over time though I really came to appreciate his unique way of looking at things.

Doesn't mean you have to think he is right, but I think he is interesting, and on here I think that's the most important thing.

I don't dislike Moonbeam. I also don't find his point of view interesting. I have an Uncle that thinks much like him and that's possibly why. I also like my uncle. I just keep thinking he should be leveling out at some point. His ability to co-exist suffers until such time. His confidence is absolutely fantastic but incomplete (imo). Any way, I find it tedious after a while.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes, why didn't conservative "ravers" listen to the foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics who hate and despise them? It's a real mystery

That

Yes, why didn't conservative "ravers" listen to the foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics who hate and despise them? It's a real mystery

It is because the greater capacity of liberals to rationally face reality without an emotional need to rationalize it away that causes them in your mind to foam at the mouth. What you are doing is telling them you are not rationally sane and it is just such irrational insanity that causes what you call foaming. You live in fear of the damage reality faced would cause to your delusionally rationalized comfort zone reality, and that totally out to lunchness of that alternate reality that terrifies them. Each sets off the fear of the other.

Sadly, your inability to see the madness of your world view, and their inability to handle the implications of your madness causes each to attack the other. Both of you are nuts, mouth foamers but neither of you has the understanding to transcend it. It's a war of unconscious machines.

 

[Moonbeam]

It's the sheer mindlessness of conservative ravers that's frightening. They're not thinking straight, at all, & evidently haven't been for longer than Libs realized. We always believed that we could somehow bring them to reason but the election of Trump convinced some that such efforts were wasted.

I mean, you had to be out of your mind to vote for Trump yet here we are...

I know this. I know why. I know that the facts of the matter is that they can't help it so all of my raging about how stupid and immoral they are is wasted. They can't help being that way.

 

[disappoint]

I don't dislike Moonbeam. I also don't find his point of view interesting. I have an include that thinks much like him and that's possibly why. I also like my uncle. I just keep thinking he should be leveling out at some point. His ability to co-exist suffers until such time. His confidence is absolutely fantastic but incomplete (imo). Any way, I find it tedious after a while.

U wot m8?

#include <stdio.h>
#include <iomanip.h>
#include <Moonbeam.h>
int main()
{
...

 

[Younigue]

U wot m8?

#include <stdio.h>
#include <iomanip.h>
#include <Moonbeam.h>
int main()
{
...

Fixed it.

 

[Moonbeam]

You seem to be having trouble following along. I don't identify as a victim nor do I identify as a lefty, liberal, or Democrat. But I am capable of seeing what the reality is and its not the Democrats that are what Eric trump claims (generally speaking) they are.

Me pointing out peoples hypocrisy isn't a form of rage and I'm not sure why you think I'm feeling rage.

So once again, you don't know me.

Pretty funny. I don't think you feel rage. I know you feel rage. It oozes from your pores. I guess I know you better than you do but because you don't know what you feel, but we will get nowhere with this. I remember when I went to see a psychologist the very first time and he told me I was defensive and I told him I am not. Hehe, you have much to learn. Maybe you should ask yourself how you feel about living in a state of continually suppressed rage. Would you feel vulnerable admitting to something like that? Of course it would be par for the course to think you wouldn't. Think of feelings as a great big ball you have your back up to. and glaring straight ahead and sliding around the ball, you never see it there.

 

[ivwshane]

Pretty funny. I don't think you feel rage. I know you feel rage. It oozes from your pores. I guess I know you better than you do but because you don't know what you feel, but we will get nowhere with this. I remember when I went to see a psychologist the very first time and he told me I was defensive and I told him I am not. Hehe, you have much to learn. Maybe you should ask yourself how you feel about living in a state of continually suppressed rage. Would you feel vulnerable admitting to something like that? Of course it would be par for the course to think you wouldn't. Think of feelings as a great big ball you have your back up to. and glaring straight ahead and sliding around the ball, you never see it there.

You got me nailed!!


/s

 

[Moonbeam]

He's never seen hatred like this? Where's he been all his life? The last 8 years having been nothing hate from Cons towards Dems.

Not so from their perspective. Liberals appear to hate because they are destroyers of the moral good conservatives know instinctively exists but happens, the other hand, not to be what they imagine it to be, their absolutist inculcated false beliefs drilled by parental fear into hem. Those who know there is a good, however, even though they have no idea what it is, see enemies of the good as evil, which, of course enemies they would be if the imagined good really were the real good.

 

[JMC2000]

Yes, why didn't conservative "ravers" listen to the foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics who hate and despise them? It's a real mystery

"Foaming-at-the-mouth lunatics"... Pot, meet Kettle; Kettle, this is Pot. Have fun.

 

[Moonbeam]

You got me nailed!!


/s

Yes, you acted exactly as predicted, with denial and rejection, but you weren't nailed. What I said would happen, that telling you the facts would be to no avail was as easy and obvious as predicting what happens when I let go of a rock. The nailed part is your feelings being projected on me, The conservative brain defect within you rejects any information deemed unflattering to the ego. What you refuse to see about yourself I know to be true about me. That is why I know you better than you do. We are all the same. Same with those Nazi conservatives, I know I'm a Nazi too. You are simply less aware of how worthless you feel than I am. I know something that is better knowing so I tell you even though you don't want to hear. You hate yourself so you feel I'm out to get you. I know I hate myself and sympathize with your condition. When you say you don't care what others think, it means you don't care about yourself. I don't care either but knowing the results gives me a bit more room to breathe.

 

[Younigue]

Yes, you acted exactly as predicted, with denial and rejection, but you weren't nailed. What I said would happen, that telling you the facts would be to no avail was as easy and obvious as predicting what happens when I let go of a rock. The nailed part is your feelings being projected on me, The conservative brain defect within you rejects any information deemed unflattering to the ego. What you refuse to see about yourself I know to be true about me. That is why I know you better than you do. We are all the same. Same with those Nazi conservatives, I know I'm a Nazi too. You are simply less aware of how worthless you feel than I am. I know something that is better knowing so I tell you even though you don't want to hear. You hate yourself so you feel I'm out to get you. I know I hate myself and sympathize with your condition. When you say you don't care what others think, it means you don't care about yourself. I don't care either but knowing the results gives me a bit more room to breathe.

You position yourself to never be wrong. That's not reality. You position yourself to be unquestionably righteous. You're unqualified.
You position yourself to a place of superiority. I assure you, you've not discovered anything that can ever make that true.
You've positioned yourself to be insulated. It's a false sense of security.
You've positioned yourself to a place of isolation. Others have got it figured out in different ways, you leave no room to appreciate or honor that.
Your stance is one of arrogance. Often that is a position that is prohibitive of further educating oneself. If we're not learning, we're not growing. If you're not growing, the business of spewing your truth becomes hypocritical.

I wish upon you new discoveries on how to sooth your soul. I promise you there are other ways that aren't so dark.

 

[ivwshane]

Yes, you acted exactly as predicted, with denial and rejection, but you weren't nailed. What I said would happen, that telling you the facts would be to no avail was as easy and obvious as predicting what happens when I let go of a rock. The nailed part is your feelings being projected on me, The conservative brain defect within you rejects any information deemed unflattering to the ego. What you refuse to see about yourself I know to be true about me. That is why I know you better than you do. We are all the same. Same with those Nazi conservatives, I know I'm a Nazi too. You are simply less aware of how worthless you feel than I am. I know something that is better knowing so I tell you even though you don't want to hear. You hate yourself so you feel I'm out to get you. I know I hate myself and sympathize with your condition. When you say you don't care what others think, it means you don't care about yourself. I don't care either but knowing the results gives me a bit more room to breathe.

Lol! Once again you don't know me at all but I do find it hilarious that you try so hard to tell me who I am.

Here is something about me that you don't know:
I actually like you moonbeam!
You helped expose me to a theory that helps explain the difference between the right and left. I like the theory not because it puts down conservatives (CBD= conservative brain defect) but because it helps to understand their thinking better. It also helps to understand my thinking better as well (LBD= liberal brain defect).

I also like you because I find people fascinating that have had transformations and who have "faced their demons" to become more self aware.

The issues I take with you is that I disagree with your solutions on how to handle the CBD. I disagree with you not because I feel my way is better (I don't) it's because I have yet to see your solutions bear any fruit. There are many posters on this board who have taken different paths when talking to someone with CBD and I haven't seen a single one be successful in their endeavor.

Lastly, as I've said many times, I like pointing out people's hypocrisy and will do so when I see it and lately I've seen it from you. Don't hate me (yes, I know you don't hate) for doing it, you should instead do what you'd expect me to do if you pointed out my hypocrisy, that is to self reflect (use that new tool you have been gifted).

I don't feel you are out to get me moonbeam, I just think you are so sure of yourself that you can't be wrong and when I point out things to you that challenges you, you get defensive and reinforce your beliefs because you say you know what is the truth. When I point out to you that your CBD is kicking in you go on these rants and try your damndest to create a caricature of me. At that point all I can do is laugh.

As to whether or not I can accept the truth from you, all I can say is that in the past you've exposed me and I agreed with you. Expose on!

Unlike your caricature of me, I actually believe the truth will set you free and I'd rather know what sort of piece of shit I am rather than feel good knowing I'm no piece of shit. And that's something I think we share in common.

Good day!

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

@Moonbeam: what you're describing here is the fact that the "conservative" mindset has a couple of extra axes of what they consider moral good, those being "in-group loyalty" and "respect for authority qua authority."

You're absolutely correct that, because most liberals do not place much weight on these, from the PoV of the conservative we're immoral and scary. However, not setting much stock by those two allows us to become quiet inside and allow things outside of humanity--such as, for example, objective facts of nature--inform our decision-making. We're not amoral or less-moral; we're less tribal, and if properly grounded, less egoistic

This is the crux of the divide, and it's what will always stop people relying solely on their egoic and animal reactions in both camps from getting along.