Eric Cantor set to lose primary: Update - Lost

[MagickMan]

Good, I can't stand that guy.

 

[werepossum]

You absolutely, hilariously did not.

The VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH:



Now I want you to guess whether I have been posting figures from a static system like W-NOMINATE or a dynamic one, DW-NOMINATE.

Before repeatedly attacking someone's intelligence you should really make sure you actually read and understood what you're attacking them about. Like I said, you're embarrassing yourself.

What a clever idea. Luckily legislators, being politicians, never ever change their stripes, uniformly preferring staunchly sticking with their original values rather than supporting what will get them elected now.

 

[TerryMathews]

What a clever idea. Luckily legislators, being politicians, never ever change their stripes, uniformly preferring staunchly sticking with their original values rather than supporting what will get them elected now.

Shhh. He's too stupid to see it.

 

[fskimospy]

What a clever idea. Luckily legislators, being politicians, never ever change their stripes, uniformly preferring staunchly sticking with their original values rather than supporting what will get them elected now.

You can of course look at actual literature on the subject and see that preferences remain relatively constant over time.

EDIT: additionally, DW-NOMINATE allows for changes in ideology over time.

 

[fskimospy]

Shhh. He's too stupid to see it.

Guy, you have lost all ability to call someone stupid here.

I'm still waiting for you to talk about the article you repeatedly claimed you read.

 

[nehalem256]

You can of course look at actual literature on the subject and see that preferences remain relatively constant over time.

Mitt Romney

 

[nehalem256]

Guy, you have lost all ability to call someone stupid here.

I'm still waiting for you to talk about the article you repeatedly claimed you read.

And I am still waiting for you to explain how the most liberal party in history had a platform very similar to that of the Tea Party

 

[fskimospy]

And I am still waiting for you to explain how the most liberal party in history had a platform very similar to that of the Tea Party

I'm waiting for you to learn something about the thing you are trying to critique.

Dumbass.

 

[JEDI]

so why did Cantor step down as Majority leader in July instead of serving till his term expires in Jan 2015?

 

[TerryMathews]

so why did Cantor step down as Majority leader in July instead of serving till his term expires in Jan 2015?

so that they could replace him now instead of after the dust settles, in case the R party loses more seats.

 

[TerryMathews]

Guy, you have lost all ability to call someone stupid here.

I'm still waiting for you to talk about the article you repeatedly claimed you read.

I've said my peace on it. It's obvious that no one knows as much about it as you do, so arguing with you about it is pointless. Your faith is unwavering.

 

[UberNeuman]

so why did Cantor step down as Majority leader in July instead of serving till his term expires in Jan 2015?

I would guess that as much money as Cantor spent on trips to the steakhouse, he decided to spend more time pursuing his love of steak.

Or he'll shortly appear on Fox "News" as their new commentator...

 

[JEDI]

so that they could replace him now instead of after the dust settles, in case the R party loses more seats.

hm.. so cantor voluntarily stepped down for the good of the repub party?
never thought he'd be so alturisic.

thought he'd hang onto power till it's pried from his cold, dead hands.

 

[fskimospy]

I've said my peace on it. It's obvious that no one knows as much about it as you do, so arguing with you about it is pointless. Your faith is unwavering.

Dude, you just tried to argue that my piece said the opposite of what it did.

Just admit it.

 

[Jimzz]

I would guess that as much money as Cantor spent on trips to the steakhouse, he decided to spend more time pursuing his love of steak.

Or he'll shortly appear on Fox "News" as their new commentator...

I'm thinking he will end up on wall street as much as he has helped big banks and investment firms.

 

[Jhhnn]

Dude, you just tried to argue that my piece said the opposite of what it did.

Just admit it.

Well, yeh, but it's an irrefutable strawman, entirely necessary to maintain his POV. If you're right, and I think you are, then his conceptual framework needs to change. If you're wrong, then he's snug in the smug of traditional values that aren't really traditional at all. For him, the choice is obvious.

 

[fskimospy]

Well, yeh, but it's an irrefutable strawman, entirely necessary to maintain his POV. If you're right, and I think you are, then his conceptual framework needs to change. If you're wrong, then he's snug in the smug of traditional values that aren't really traditional at all. For him, the choice is obvious.

Whether DW-NOMINATE is a good tool for measuring ideology over time or not, and legions of political scientists think it is, that's certainly something that can reasonably be debated.

In this case though our good friend terry raised a complaint that was wrong, that the system only measured relative to others in the same congress despite the fact that measuring across congresses is literally the only reason DW-NOMINATE was created. Despite being repeatedly pointed to an article that told him this he didn't read the thing and kept trying to insist it said the opposite of what it really said, all the while calling people stupid for telling him he was wrong.

That's pretty dumb.

 

[fskimospy]

It's funny too. One of the guys who created it was a professor of mine in undergrad, I've used the system in papers I wrote, and somewhere around my apartment I have the book he authored that is entirely based on that system. I think I know how it works.

 

[nehalem256]

Whether DW-NOMINATE is a good tool for measuring ideology over time or not, and legions of political scientists think it is, that's certainly something that can reasonably be debated.

Well since according to the DW-NOMINATE measure the most liberal party in history had views very similar to the Tea Party I think its pretty clear that legions of political scientists are wrong.

 

[fskimospy]

Well since according to the DW-NOMINATE measure the most liberal party in history had views very similar to the Tea Party I think its pretty clear that legions of political scientists are wrong.

Or it means that you don't understand the system you're attempting to critique. Given the various platform planks you brought up it is completely obvious that this is the real case.

What's funny is that you think it's more likely that both the creators and the thousands of people who use this system never looked at 1880 as opposed to you just not understanding a system you clearly haven't spent more than 10 minutes looking at.

That's the mark of a true dumbass, or maybe just the Dunning-Kruger effect in action I guess.

 

[nehalem256]

Or it means that you don't understand the system you're attempting to critique. Given the various platform planks you brought up it is completely obvious that this is the real case.

What's funny is that you think it's more likely that both the creators and the thousands of people who use this system never looked at 1880 as opposed to you just not understanding a system you clearly haven't spent more than 10 minutes looking at.

So comparing important party planks of the 1880s Democrats isn't a valid way to determine how liberal or conservative they are?

 

[fskimospy]

So comparing important party planks of the 1880s Democrats isn't a valid way to determine how liberal or conservative they are?

It depends on whether or not the planks you mentioned are contained in their first dimension score. You clearly don't know what that is.

 

[kage69]

I would guess that as much money as Cantor spent on trips to the steakhouse, he decided to spend more time pursuing his love of steak.

Or he'll shortly appear on Fox "News" as their new commentator...

Quite likely. Gotta balance out Huckabee's evangelical presence right? Heh, I just used 'balance' in conjunction with 'Fox,' I crack myself up.

I had heard about him and the restaurants, but didn't know he turned his travel to Davos for the World Economic Forum into a ski trip in the Alps, which we all paid for.

Takes a real scumbag to pull that kind of shit while fighting unemployment benefit extensions so Americans in real need won't go without basic food and shelter. I don't really know anything about this McCarthy guy, but I would hope for all of our sakes he is a more ethical and honest man. Another GOP turd circles the bowl and prepares to descend. Good riddance.

 

[First]

I've said my peace on it. It's obvious that no one knows as much about it as you do, so arguing with you about it is pointless. Your faith is unwavering.

Take your lumps and admit you were clueless on said topic. DW is an "inflation-adjusted" measure of political choice/positions, making your prior analogy total bullshit. Show you're an adult, and evolve a little.

 

[nehalem256]

It depends on whether or not the planks you mentioned are contained in their first dimension score. You clearly don't know what that is.

If the views of the party are not adequately represented by the score. Then clearly representing the score as a way to measure the liberal/conservativeness of a party is retarded.