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dullard

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.
There is PLENTY of evidence that we are still doing that, it is just in hard to detect ways. True, we stopped the blatant oppression, but there is still plenty of discrimination around. It is impossible to end as long as we have differences.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

Nearly everyone oppressed everyone else at one point or another in history.

Again, QFT
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
white people make it so countless minorities cant advance from the ghetto.
white people complain that immigrants are taking their jobs and blame them for all their problems
white people whine and complain when their school standards are too asian and difficult for them

but i guess white people have a reason to complain

after all, guns dont kill people. dangerous minorities do.

How do white people prevent minorities from advancing from the ghetto? By offering AA? Or other minority only scholarships?
I think everybody complains about immigrants. Of course I don't know of any white person (personally) thats complained about an immigrant TAKING their job.
Im almost positive Ive never of of a white person saying their school is to 'asian'. And Im pretty sure you're just starting to make stuff up.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
white people make it so countless minorities cant advance from the ghetto.
white people complain that immigrants are taking their jobs and blame them for all their problems
white people whine and complain when their school standards are too asian and difficult for them

but i guess white people have a reason to complain

after all, guns dont kill people. dangerous minorities do.

How do white people prevent minorities from advancing from the ghetto? By offering AA? Or other minority only scholarships?
I think everybody complains about immigrants. Of course I don't know of any white person (personally) thats complained about an immigrant TAKING their job.
Im almost positive Ive never of of a white person saying their school is to 'asian'. And Im pretty sure you're just starting to make stuff up.

Um those very threads have been on this very forum. Do a seearch
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: dullard
As long as people are different there will be anger, hate, prejudice, discrimination, and inequalities that all of those create. The solution of course, is to have everyone be the exact same. What a horrible world that would be (think about it).

The best we can do is to learn from the starving man and fish story.
[*]Don't just ignore him, since he'll rob you blind to eat.
[*]Don't give a starving man to fish, it'll only help him for one day.
[*]Don't teach a starving man to fish, he doesn't have the strength to reel it in.
[*]Instead, give a starving man a fish, then teach him to fish. He should then be set for life. If he is still starving later, then screw him, he is a worthless blob on society just trying to mooch off everyone else.

Sadly, most people try one of the first three and no one has tried the forth.

I can't think of a better way to describe the situation. Elegant in it's simplicity.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
white people make it so countless minorities cant advance from the ghetto.
white people complain that immigrants are taking their jobs and blame them for all their problems
white people whine and complain when their school standards are too asian and difficult for them

but i guess white people have a reason to complain

after all, guns dont kill people. dangerous minorities do.

How do white people prevent minorities from advancing from the ghetto? By offering AA? Or other minority only scholarships?
I think everybody complains about immigrants. Of course I don't know of any white person (personally) thats complained about an immigrant TAKING their job.
Im almost positive Ive never of of a white person saying their school is to 'asian'. And Im pretty sure you're just starting to make stuff up.

Again, QFT
 

Proletariat

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Dec 9, 2004
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Originally posted by: DaShen
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
white people make it so countless minorities cant advance from the ghetto.
white people complain that immigrants are taking their jobs and blame them for all their problems
white people whine and complain when their school standards are too asian and difficult for them

but i guess white people have a reason to complain

after all, guns dont kill people. dangerous minorities do.

How do white people prevent minorities from advancing from the ghetto? By offering AA? Or other minority only scholarships?
I think everybody complains about immigrants. Of course I don't know of any white person (personally) thats complained about an immigrant TAKING their job.
Im almost positive Ive never of of a white person saying their school is to 'asian'. And Im pretty sure you're just starting to make stuff up.

Again, QFT

Um those very threads have been on this very forum. Do a seearch

BTW do you worship white chicks?
 

AMDZen

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Did you ever stop to think that maybe your first problem is paying too much attention to things OTHERS have to say. "Dead Prez" whoever TF that is, doesn't know WTF their talking about.

And for the record, black people that are "down" usually brought themselves down. I don't blaim people for my problems, black, white or blue - if there is something in my life that needs to be done or changed, its up to me to see it through. Take responsibility for yourself and life will be better, color is just an excuse
 

QED

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Proletariat-- can you name a region or race that doesn't have any history of violence or opression??

 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Yeah but those Aztecs were all peace and goodness while they ripped the beating hearts out of living humans on top of their pyramids in what is now Mexico City. What exactly is your point? You worship a guy in your signature that was directly responsible for the murder of hundreds of people imprisoned in the name of Castro's revolution and call Europeans violent.
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Proletariat-- can you name a region or race that doesn't have any history of violence or opression??

I can name a few that have had far less.

White people have literally gone all over the world and raped it. I would be fine if we just slaughtered each other like everyon else. But we didn't stop there, we marched all over globe.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

:roll: Yep, cause the Ottoman Empire never invaded and conquered much of southern Europe. The Japanese never invaded and conquered a good portion of China and much of SE Asia. The Chinese never invaded and conquered Tibet. The Egyptians never enslaved the Jews. The Zulu never conquered much of S. Africa...

As someone said, history is full of people conquering and oppressing others...
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Exactly what point are you trying to make with this?

Why don't you tell me what race you are, or what country you come from. I guaren fvckin tee that your history is just as violent. As if the past matters that much.

People need to wake up and move on with their lives. Maybe its cliche, but people need to concentrate on the present and maybe a bit about the future - but quit worrying about the past.
 

Phoenix86

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

You do know nearly every group has been oppresed in out history, right.

While we're on the line of logic, let's take a look at some groups that aren't in the same situation as the black culture. Here, I'll throw out a few.

Jews.
Japanese.
Irish.
Hispanic. Heck, even ILLEGAL imigrants do well here in the US.

Genious.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Aisa was certainly a warm and fuzzy place all the time.
 

JLGatsby

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What about Asians who were persecuted during WWII?

What about Jews who pretty much have always been persecuted?

These two groups seem to do better than whites, yet have been persecuted.

African Americans and Hispanics don't do well because their culture is corrupted.

It's not the white man's fault. It's their own fault.

They created a culture that poisons themselves. The music in the OP is a perfect example of that.

Jewish and Asian culture isn't dominated by ignorance and rebelliousness. This is why both groups have become intelligent and successful.
 

BlueFlamme

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Proletariat-- can you name a region or race that doesn't have any history of violence or opression??

I can name a few that have had far less.

White people have literally gone all over the world and raped it. I would be fine if we just slaughtered each other like everyon else. But we didn't stop there, we marched all over globe.

Ignorance is bliss 'eh?

You don't recall anything about the Huns, the Moors, the Babylonians, the Egyptians or any of dozens of examples of one country just devestating another through violence, conquest and enslavement?
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Proletariat-- can you name a region or race that doesn't have any history of violence or opression??

I can name a few that have had far less.

White people have literally gone all over the world and raped it. I would be fine if we just slaughtered each other like everyon else. But we didn't stop there, we marched all over globe.

You have issues
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
white people make it so countless minorities cant advance from the ghetto.
white people complain that immigrants are taking their jobs and blame them for all their problems
white people whine and complain when their school standards are too asian and difficult for them

but i guess white people have a reason to complain

after all, guns dont kill people. dangerous minorities do.

How do white people prevent minorities from advancing from the ghetto? By offering AA? Or other minority only scholarships?
I think everybody complains about immigrants. Of course I don't know of any white person (personally) thats complained about an immigrant TAKING their job.
Im almost positive Ive never of of a white person saying their school is to 'asian'. And Im pretty sure you're just starting to make stuff up.

Um those very threads have been on this very forum. Do a seearch


Even if some people said those things, thats not a representation of socieity as a whole. Im sure there have been black people that have said racial things to a white person. Im sure there has been an asian person who has said racial things to a black person. Some people are just assholes. That does not mean society is holding any minority down. I can't believe people think this is the case. What more do you want society to do?


When there are two people equally qualified for a job and it goes to a black person because of a quota (or a women for that matter) thats MORE than fair. Socieity is going out of its way to help the black communities out. Purposelly giving them a leg up over the competition based soley on race. Yet you are gonna stand here and tell me socieity is opressing the black man? You can't possibly think Im dumb enough to believe that can you.


Let me ask you this. How would you feel if there were quotas to make it so that people being employed at a place had to be equal to their percentage in population. I.E. 10% black 80% white than the employer would employ 8 white people and 1 black person? Would you think that was fair? No, of course not. Yet when it works in favor a black person not only is it fair, but the white man is STILL HOLDING YOU DOWN. Come on, at some point people need to take responsibility for themselves. If you dont commit a crime, you won't do time. Simple as that.
 

AMDZen

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
What about Asians who were persecuted during WWII?

What about Jews who pretty much have always been persecuted?

These two groups seem to do better than whites, yet have been persecuted.

African Americans and Hispanics don't do well because their culture is corrupted.

It's not the white man's fault. It's their own fault.

They created a culture that poisons themselves. The music in the OP is a perfect example of that.

QFT
 

Cuda1447

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
What about Asians who were persecuted during WWII?

What about Jews who pretty much have always been persecuted?

These two groups seem to do better than whites, yet have been persecuted.

African Americans and Hispanics don't do well because their culture is corrupted.

It's not the white man's fault. It's their own fault.

They created a culture that poisons themselves. The music in the OP is a perfect example of that.

QFT

X2. Wow I actually agree with JLGatsby for once.... *shudders*
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: MathMan
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Cuda1447
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: K1052
Sorry, us white folks are far too busy opressing only the blacks to listen to the lyrics or even properly oppress the Asians, Mexicans, Indians, Persians, Pakistanis, etc....

Please excuse me while I return to my vast cotton plantation.

Um you do know we oppressed all of the above groups at one time in our history right?

Genious.

I didn't realize we were still doing that though. I thought that happened over 2 centuries ago.

Just think how confusing this all is for those of us with ancestors from Europe. My Italian ancestors oppressed and pillaged my English ancestors who were then oppressed and pillaged by the Angles and the Saxons.

Notice Italy - Europe

Angles - Europe

Saxons - Europe

Sure are violent people.

Proletariat-- can you name a region or race that doesn't have any history of violence or opression??

I can name a few that have had far less.

White people have literally gone all over the world and raped it. I would be fine if we just slaughtered each other like everyon else. But we didn't stop there, we marched all over globe.

You have issues

Meh I don't have issues, I'm proud of the philosphers, leaders and artists that Europe has created, but at the same time I think they could have been more respectful instead of calling everyone they met 'sub-human'. That goes against the fundamentals of Western cu lture created by Plato and Aristotle.